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Hi all,
Vanilla are planning an update to the site on April 24th (next Wednesday). It is a major PHP8 update which is expected to boost performance across the site. The site will be down from 7pm and it is expected to take about an hour to complete. We appreciate your patience during the update.
Thanks all.

Has the 1 week downtime & move to vanilla killed this place?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,078 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    ok I am not blaming you for the site, I am saying you offered opinion on how ill supported they are due to numbers and to me it looked like offering excuses.

    BTW you have been very good at offering solutions and fixes, something that you definitely shouldn't have to be doing.

    There is a huge problem with the web design, it is poor, must posters will agree with that.

    Even if the project management was brilliant, even if it was tested to the nth degree, even if the rollout was flawless, you are still left with a design most users simply do not like.

    That is what i mean by poor design.



  • Registered Users Posts: 12,832 ✭✭✭✭Rothko




  • Registered Users Posts: 895 ✭✭✭Mike Murdock


    ADP, the new layout is already a decade out of date. It looks like a forum set up in 2010/2011.



  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 7,941 Mod ✭✭✭✭Yakult


    It gets a big thumbs down from me.

    I'm not averse to change, it can be great, have experienced it on other websites that have improved by it and naturally there will be some hiccups.

    But this... This just seems like its been destructive in more ways than it has constructive. It feels like it was migrated really really badly and rushed massively.

    So far, I have no desire to come on, other than to see if its been improved and actually feel like Boards.ie.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,240 ✭✭✭MayoSalmon


    I've tried and tried to come back but it just isn't happening for me...



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭dudley72


    The biggest problem with the website is no flow, so it doesn't seem to take the user into any consideration. How they would use the website. Basic stuff is not included so you cannot actually browse the website. You can't find forums, if you do comment on a topic it is easier to just keep a window open in a browser with that thread than moving onto another because you don't have any quick method to go back into that forum or even into that thread.

    All the functionality which was built into the old website like following thread and forums are gone, going into My threads has nothing etc. If they fixed these things it would solve a lot of the problems people are having



  • Registered Users Posts: 14,326 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    I'm spending more time on r/Ireland now.

    I've had a good run here since 2003.



  • Registered Users Posts: 14,326 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm





  • Registered Users Posts: 6,064 ✭✭✭Trigger Happy


    That Marty Whelan picture alone is worth the visit.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,699 ✭✭✭Sunny Disposition


    I don’t like the changes at all, I doubt many users would see it as an improvement. Which begs the question, why do it?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,247 ✭✭✭Tork


    Just about says it, doesn't it?



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,597 ✭✭✭Feisar


    While I like the odd visit on reddit and like some of the subs r/Ireland is just to general, it's like someone abandoned a telex machine and came back to reams of stuff. Or am I missing something, is there sub subs?

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,896 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa





  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    And heavily patrolled by auto moderators. A few ordinary posts were stopped, because I had not the longevity on reddit and had a free account. oh well.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,446 ✭✭✭Seanergy


    Your post seems pretty cranky and moany to me, not to mention loaded with personal issues and generalisations. Please tell, what did denim jackets or receeding hairlines ever do to you?

    OP's question which you failed to answer was "Has the week of downtime & move to vanilla killed this place?"

    I will answer the first part of the question, the week of downtime did not kill this place in any shape or form, not even wounded it a small bit, IMHO. It was a week off, heads got fixes elsewhere.

    Why don't you try answer the second part of the question?



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,247 ✭✭✭Tork


    It would help if the people behind boards gave us more feedback as to what is going on. I'm sure the stress levels at Boards HQ are going through the roof at the moment but keeping people in the loop about what is happening would defuse some of this. At the moment we don't know what, if anything, they're trying to fix. Maybe they're happy with what they're presenting to us and that the existing user interface is what we're stuck with. Stop hiding, guys.



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,978 ✭✭✭✭Dav010


    Maybe I'm doing something wrong, when I tap on a discussion on my phone I get the opening post but nothing else, no other posts, when I tap onto the next page, all I get is the comment box. Is this the same for everyone or is it just something on my phone? Im having to use my desktop, which I rarely use for anything except occasionally for work, so I read boards far less frequently.


    This new platform I dog ****.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,815 ✭✭✭SimonTemplar


    I deal with software design and releases for a living and I just can't understand how we got here. There is a lot of missing functionality between the previous version and the current version, which itself is a big red flag, but also once they realised the release / migration wouldn't be done in the allocated time, they should have accepted their losses, rolled back, and organised a future date to try again.


    Maybe a lot of the problem is going with Vanilla. I don't anything about them I wish Boards had gone with Invision instead. I use a couple of forums that use that software that it is pretty much the Rolls Royce of forum software. It looks nice and modern with loads of good functionality. Probably much more expensive though.



  • Registered Users Posts: 54 ✭✭smillingsam


    I agree 100%, the plug should of been pulled on this when things started to go south, they could of re-grouped, figure out what the issues were and have another attempt in the future, it would of been a tough pill to swallow but i think more damage was done by continuing with the switchover.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,552 ✭✭✭Slutmonkey57b


    There was a massive kerfuffle years ago when the forums list was removed from the top of the main page, replaced with "topics". Users and mods warned it was a regressive step which would make it more difficult to navigate, and forums would suffer. Sure enough, they did.


    This is a lot more comprehensively worse than that ; the mobile site is simply non functional. Not even "worse" but literally useless.

    Functionality posters used and relied on is gone: no advanced edit on posts, no "go to latest post" button, no "my threads"...

    Speed is horrific, I am regularly switching tabs waiting for boards to switch pages on a thread. What's the likelihood I don't bother coming back to it, or get distracted? Very high.

    A week of downtime is enough to kill off a lot of casual users.

    That coupled with the interface being broken and the site being unusably slow does not bode well.

    The failure to call it on Thursday and roll back to the old setup for the weekend was an indication it was more important to go ahead rather than admit a failure. I think the failure of the in-house build years ago haunts them and they decided it's this or nothing.

    And even if it does limp on, look at all the posters now listed as "legacyuser". Or thanks gone missing. That data is flat out gone. It's a bad move all round.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,474 ✭✭✭Mimon


    This never happens as it usually is someone at the top pushing these things so definitely no going back until they lose face when it goes to complete sh!t.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,275 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    Does anyone know how to shut down your boards account? I tried looking it up, but since that link is now dead, I can't find it.

    I've tried this new layout-it's not working for me. So I'd rather just kill my account.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8 Buzzin-Hornets


    Well said.

    For what it's worth, although certainly not perfect at the moment, I welcome the move to a more modern, scaleable platform. It's actually what prompted me to sign up again.

    It will get better in time. I know first hand how difficult migrations can be. So well done @Boards.ie: Niamh and co on what was a difficult undertaking.



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,385 Mod ✭✭✭✭HildaOgdenx


    I found this on another thread - 'if you want to close your account you can email hello@boards.ie or datarequests@boards.ie and we'll do it for you manually here.'



  • Registered Users Posts: 12,378 ✭✭✭✭machiavellianme


    Scalable, but in which direction? Given the user base is diminishing, will it be trimming the fat to make the experience load at a less than glacial pace?

    There's a certain irony that the ad that keeps popping up is one for a website builder (and its not vanilla)!



  • Registered Users Posts: 8 Buzzin-Hornets


    😄 I'm not seeing any ads.

    I mean scalable in terms of its functionality and ability to upgrade. Of course if what you say it correct then scalability in terms of needing resources won't be a problem.

    Edit: Dynamic is the word I probably should've used.



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,518 ✭✭✭GerardKeating


    Think of it like a building/bridge with a serious structrial defect. It's going to fall down eventually, so do you replace it now, or wait for the final collaspse.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,645 ✭✭✭The J Stands for Jay


    I once had a post on Reddit deleted because I wasn't verified as BIPOC. There was a large discussion about Ireland on it. They wanted a picture of the colour of the skin on my arm before I could post...



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,492 ✭✭✭California Dreamer


    The set up for some is different BUT the barometer that I am seeing is that the first page of after hours still has posts going back 2 days. Previously you might only see posts going back 6/7 hours before having to move on to page 2.

    A lack of m.boards has seen my usage decrease. Far too difficult to navigate.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 84,813 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    I miss the old format layout



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