passing 1st arts

johnnydd · 22-04-2008 10:49pm #1

any tips or advice on passing:

spanish?
Irish?
Politics?
Economics?

wordofmouth · 23-04-2008 2:17am

Presumably you've done an exam before if you've made it to college. What exactly are you asking? For economics check past exam papers on blackboard. Trade essays with friends in class for politics. Spanish and Irish? Can't really last minute them can you?

Fabio · 23-04-2008 11:23am

Have an interest in your subjects, try and enjoy the study, pick your best bits, do a bit of work with past papers and you'll be fine.

Orizio · 23-04-2008 1:16pm

Turn up and start writing. Anything. In any language.

Its first Arts for christ sake.

johnnydd · 23-04-2008 2:54pm

im seriously worried about it, havent been doin much all year in irish and beginners spanish especially, can you transfer marks from 1 subject to another and are they very strict on awarding 40 per cent??

i dont want repeats. if your not doing the subject the following year like??

wordofmouth · 23-04-2008 3:23pm

You can compensate a subject if you failed one by a small margin and got a good result in another. It's not about doing them next year its about the credits you need to pass this year. You probably know more than you think you do, just work hard for this month then you'll be free all summer just put the time in now. It's only a couple of weeks.
Oh and don't do spanish next year..

CommieBaz · 28-04-2008 5:46pm

I sure hope you took plenty of notes in Politics lectures, coz that's what I'm relying on...of course, there is a certain lecturer who seemed to enjoy giving thoroughly un-useful lecture notes...

Ekancone · 29-04-2008 7:20am

wordofmouth wrote: »

You can compensate a subject if you failed one by a small margin and got a good result in another.

This is highly unlikely.

TerrorFirmer · 29-04-2008 7:25am

daithifleming wrote: »

This is highly unlikely.

That is how the rules work; how it is 'highly unlikely'?

Ekancone · 29-04-2008 7:35am

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

That is how the rules work; how it is 'highly unlikely'?

Could you provide me the evidence of this? Because I was in such a situation and that was the response I received from the highest levels.

TerrorFirmer · 29-04-2008 7:37am

Well unless all my lecturers were lying to me - and I go to NUIG by the way - they've explicitly stated in every subject that if you fail one subject, provided you're only 5% off the pass mark you can compensate with another subject you got 50% in. It's not like it's a discretion, it's an actual rule.

Ekancone · 29-04-2008 7:40am

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

Well unless all my lecturers were lying to me - and I go to NUIG by the way - they've explicitly stated in every subject that if you fail one subject, provided you're only 5% off the pass mark you can compensate with another subject you got 50% in. It's not like it's a discretion, it's an actual rule.

Right, because this is exactly the position I found myself in 1st year and I was told that it was nigh on impossible to get by the head of the department, the mature student officer, the students union and the examinations office. So you would want to start producing evidence for your claims.

TerrorFirmer · 29-04-2008 7:44am

It seems to be a university wide thing by the looks it it. Example:

http://ww2.dkit.ie/schools_and_departments/business_and_humanities/policies/pass_by_compensation

http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:AAWx-3hG1X4J:www.nuigalway.ie/exams/downloads/exams_office_newsletter_summer_2006_07upated.pdf+pass+by+compensation&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=7&gl=ie&client=firefox-a

Just a casual google brings it up in piles of Irish universities....it's called 'Pass by compensation'.

Ekancone · 29-04-2008 10:18am

Well I have heard of no such thing in UCC.

deRanged · 29-04-2008 10:22am

it exists alright - or at least it certainly did when I did my undergrad degree.

Ekancone · 29-04-2008 10:32am

deRanged wrote: »

it exists alright - or at least it certainly did when I did my undergrad degree.

I'd be well pissed off if it does, after the amount of indifferent responses I received when I enquired. I got 35% in Spanish and did really well in everything else, but I was basically told to forget about it and sit the repeats.

TerrorFirmer · 29-04-2008 10:46am

Yeah, I can imagine....not much good now though worrying about it, just forget about it I guess!

deRanged · 29-04-2008 10:48am

it's there for sure. grab this pdf
and you'll see a reference to compensation in section 9.5.

I don't think it applies to every course though. If I find more about it I'll put it up here.

edit: got it. in that pdf scroll down to section 13.5, particularly 13.5.1 and 13.5.2.

Ekancone · 29-04-2008 11:03am

Bunch of pricks... not you guys!

nesf · 29-04-2008 12:37pm

I comp'd in Second Year. I don't think you can normally compensate for a module using marks from a different department or something like that (iirc). Also, I've heard in some departments that they don't like compensating people in First Year etc. It's all really hazy tbh.

TerrorFirmer, UCC =! NUIG, so don't be surprised if there are differences between them and not all rules are common to all universities etc.

Ekancone · 29-04-2008 1:55pm

I was just talking to someone who said that the compensation clause doesn't count in Arts. You have to pass every module.

http://www.ucc.ie/admin/registrar/marksandstandards/2008Arts.pdf

Page 8

'To pass First Year and progress to Second Year candidates must pass modules to the value of 60 credits. All modules must be passed.'

wordofmouth · 29-04-2008 7:33pm

daithifleming wrote: »

Could you provide me the evidence of this? Because I was in such a situation and that was the response I received from the highest levels.

I guess they didn't want to encourage you to put in less effort.
It's a rule alright.

Ekancone · 29-04-2008 9:07pm

I'm sure it doesn't count for Arts.

Rebel6 · 30-04-2008 5:06pm

Doing History Geography Archaeology and Celtic Civ.......
Anyone got any tips for cramming these subjects ???

Ekancone · 30-04-2008 6:55pm

Rebel6 wrote: »

Doing History Geography Archaeology and Celtic Civ.......
Anyone got any tips for cramming these subjects ???

History exams are very predictable, just look at the past papers and you will see. Get on to someone you know and get the notes, get some notes off the net (wiki or something) and just write a basic account. You will get a 2.2 or less, but at least you will pass. I don't know about the others.

Jannah · 30-04-2008 7:03pm

johnnydd wrote: »

spanish? Irish?

Youch!! If theres one thing I've learned about college its that languages get very VEEERY difficult in third level!! Your best bet is to pick up a muy buono Spanish lass- it'll defo motivate you to learn the language!

IBeTheProphet · 02-05-2008 10:26am

Orizio wrote: »

Turn up and start writing. Anything. In any language.

Its first Arts for christ sake.

Hmmm, as a casual browser in here, didn't you have a spot of bother last year?

johnny-fatality · 24-05-2008 9:45am

After all the contoversy with passing and repeating exams, did the arts qualification get you anywhere in the end?

Orizio · 24-05-2008 10:24am

IBeTheProphet wrote: »

Hmmm, as a casual browser in here, didn't you have a spot of bother last year?

Yes I failed Philosophy, but I only wrote down '**** Sartre' on my paper...

Rebel6 · 24-07-2008 8:58pm

Well i failed physical and economic geography and archaeology........any tips for getting past these second time around ???? thanks

claireybear · 13-08-2008 10:07am

You can pass by compensation in UCC several of my friends passed by compensating in the summer exams, basically if you fail by a small margin and get over a certain percent in another exam - different percents for different courses, you transfer percent and pass the exam by compensation.

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