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Technically correct - I've met one chap from Trinidad who went from zero to World Cup level in a year. However, he was army and was a full-time shooter.melikedonunts wrote: »im serious,4 years is plenty of time
You've not looked that hard so!melikedonunts wrote: »seriously been looking around cant find any irish pistol shooting websites- The NTSA is the Olympic rifle and pistol shooting NGB in Ireland.
- There's also the shooting forum in here.
- And there's the shooting section in the boards wiki as well.
Nope. To take my club (WTSC) for an example, you ask us about shooting, we recommend our beginners course (six weeks, qualified coach, etc) and once you complete that we invite you to join and that's that. All equipment provided. And yes, we do air pistol (we're pretty much the best place at the moment for air rifle or air pistol).It's not as easy as you think. Firstly you will have to get membership to a gun club which is hard enough these days.
Er, no. For a start, most clubs if not all will have club kit you can use. And a club air pistol will do for the first year at least.Then you'll have to apply for a special air pistol used in international competitions which you will have to have a shooting background and competition history with which to obtain.
Secondly, you don't need a shooting background to get a licence (how would you get started?
) nor a competition history. You do need a firearms licence - but you just need a good reason, a safe place to store the thing, and to be eligible to hold one (ie, over 16, not been in jail in the last five years, of sound mind, etc).
Thirdly, the air pistols used in the Olympics are basicly the bottom rung in target shooting. In most every other country, they're where you'd start in the sport, as they're cheap and need no extra kit like jackets or trousers or whatever.
Despite our best efforts. Though to be fair, we've made progress.Bear in mind that shooting is not considered a sport really in this country
Er, no. Not at all. There is a "restricted list" coming in in the next year or so, but it's listing things like sawn-off shotguns with pistol grips, or centre-fire pistols (ie, .45 calibre or 9mm calibre or that kind of thing). Air pistols are specifically not on the list.and new gun laws are coming in soon that plan to restrict access to pistols by banning them completely
No, it's probably the easiest firearm to get a licence for because it's got the lowest muzzle energy of pretty much any firearm you'll find out there. Half that of a paintball gun even. In fact, only airsoft toys have less heft to them.I think you will find it extremely difficuilt to get an air pistol for target shooting
That's rather true, but not of everywhere - WTSC charges €60 for the beginners course and €150 for the year's membership (which includes insurance). Mind you, we are probably the lowest outside of the college clubs (if you're an alumni or student in TCD or UCD, you can join their clubs, TCD doesn't do air pistol but UCD does). Still however, it's nowhere near, say, Golf. Or tennis. Or sailing.The cost of membership to these clubs can be expensive so bear this in mind.
No, you won't. You don't have to go to domestic matches, though you'd be silly not to. Nor do you have to do anything, in fact. The full procedure is described here, but basicly for each international event, there's a set number of slots on the Team, a selection match and a score threshold - the highest N shooters over that threshold get a slot (where N is the number of slots available). That's it. There is some paperwork, but it's your training plan with your coach, not beauraucratic forms or such.After this You will have to go through local compeitions to even get into the fray for being accepted to an olympic standard and fill out various paperwork to apply to be considered for olympic competition.
Germany is the home of air rifle shooting and pretty much dominates the international scene, though the Chinese and Russians are still powerhouses and the Americans aren't far behind. The standard is indeed enormously high - in the finals, or indeed in the top fifty, you'd be competing against what would be considered professional athletes in any other sport. Whereas in Ireland, the NTSA (the NGB that coveres olympic rifle and pistol shooting) is the least well funded Olympic NGB in the country, getting about €4k per year.The competition in target shooting internationally is of a very high standard and there is much competiton even in europe.
Right on the button, there.Target shooting requires a lot of training and hours of practice and lots of commitement and patience.
Well, Clay Pigeon is - its one of the focus sports and got about a quarter of a million euro there in '03 because....Its also important to mention that you'll probably receive little or no funding from the shambolic OCOI as target shooting is not seen as a medal priority for ireland.
....of the 2002 World Championships title. Okay, that's in clay pigeon, but it shows we can do it. We've not done it in pistol because even air pistols were banned here for 30 years during the Troubles. That's not a reason to fail to do it now though.Ireland has never won a medal in this area despite repeated attempts
As I said, you wouldn't buy anything for the first year. If you did though, my air pistol cost me €250, and pellets are €12 for a tin of 500. The safe was bought in woodies for €80 or so. It's not enormously expensive really.Added to this is the cost of the actual air pistol and ammunition and making sure you have a proper safe and security for it.
Amen to that, it is a serious challange.It is not like playing video games where you just aim press a button and hey presto you hit your target.
I don't know how you got treated when you tried it, but it sounds like you got given the run-around by someone. If you'd like to try it again, our doors are always open and if you're not in range of Meath, there are a fair few other places that can help...Just some friendly advice from someone who has been down this route long before the olympics started..0 -
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Technically correct - I've met one chap from Trinidad who went from zero to World Cup level in a year. However, he was army and was a full-time shooter.You've not looked that hard so!
- The NTSA is the Olympic rifle and pistol shooting NGB in Ireland.
- There's also the shooting forum in here.
- And there's the shooting section in the boards wiki as well.
Secondly, you don't need a shooting background to get a licence (how would you get started? ) nor a competition history. You do need a firearms licence - but you just need a good reason, a safe place to store the thing, and to be eligible to hold one (ie, over 16, not been in jail in the last five years, of sound mind, etc).
Thirdly, the air pistols used in the Olympics are basicly the bottom rung in target shooting. In most every other country, they're where you'd start in the sport, as they're cheap and need no extra kit like jackets or trousers or whatever.Despite our best efforts. Though to be fair, we've made progress.Er, no. Not at all. There is a "restricted list" coming in in the next year or so, but it's listing things like sawn-off shotguns with pistol grips, or centre-fire pistols (ie, .45 calibre or 9mm calibre or that kind of thing). Air pistols are specifically not on the list. No, it's probably the easiest firearm to get a licence for because it's got the lowest muzzle energy of pretty much any firearm you'll find out there. Half that of a paintball gun even. In fact, only airsoft toys have less heft to them.That's rather true, but not of everywhere - WTSC charges €60 for the beginners course and €150 for the year's membership (which includes insurance). Mind you, we are probably the lowest outside of the college clubs (if you're an alumni or student in TCD or UCD, you can join their clubs, TCD doesn't do air pistol but UCD does). Still however, it's nowhere near, say, Golf. Or tennis. Or sailing.No, you won't. You don't have to go to domestic matches, though you'd be silly not to. Nor do you have to do anything, in fact. The full procedure is described here, but basicly for each international event, there's a set number of slots on the Team, a selection match and a score threshold - the highest N shooters over that threshold get a slot (where N is the number of slots available). That's it. There is some paperwork, but it's your training plan with your coach, not beauraucratic forms or such.Germany is the home of air rifle shooting and pretty much dominates the international scene, though the Chinese and Russians are still powerhouses and the Americans aren't far behind. The standard is indeed enormously high - in the finals, or indeed in the top fifty, you'd be competing against what would be considered professional athletes in any other sport. Whereas in Ireland, the NTSA (the NGB that coveres olympic rifle and pistol shooting) is the least well funded Olympic NGB in the country, getting about €4k per year. Right on the button, there.Well, Clay Pigeon is - its one of the focus sports and got about a quarter of a million euro there in '03 because........of the 2002 World Championships title. Okay, that's in clay pigeon, but it shows we can do it. We've not done it in pistol because even air pistols were banned here for 30 years during the Troubles. That's not a reason to fail to do it now though. As I said, you wouldn't buy anything for the first year. If you did though, my air pistol cost me €250, and pellets are €12 for a tin of 500. The safe was bought in woodies for €80 or so. It's not enormously expensive really.Amen to that, it is a serious challange.I don't know how you got treated when you tried it, but it sounds like you got given the run-around by someone. If you'd like to try it again, our doors are always open and if you're not in range of Meath, there are a fair few other places that can help...
thanks sparks,really helpfull info,ill have a good luck at it0 -
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