Recession will solve drug epidemic

earlyevening · 13-11-2008 07:26PM #1

What do you think?
I'd say now that all those young well paid punters who were buying all that cocaine will stop now that they're laid off/ less well off. That'll solve all this gun crime etc. Then its back to the good ole days of heroin addicts in sink estates and the less lucrative cannabis trade.

super_furry · 13-11-2008 07:28PM

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DarkJager · 13-11-2008 07:29PM

I think you're in the clouds if you believe that a recession will slow drug use.Serious drug addicts will get their fix anyway possible and the casual users will just chip in together for smoke & yayo. So no, it isn't going to make a jot of difference.

dr.bollocko · 13-11-2008 07:31PM

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It just expresses so perfectly what I could have said in words but now do not have to.

earlyevening · 13-11-2008 07:34PM

Serious drug addicts will carry on as normal. Its just these new occassional cocaine users that will have to scale back.
If retail sales and new cars, houses are all falling why not cocaine use. Its a luxury item for most users????

As I think about it, maybe the recession will sort out our traffic problems too. Less jobs=less cars. Every cloud...

Sharpshooter · 13-11-2008 07:39PM

dr.bollocko wrote: »

It just expresses so perfectly what I could have said in words but now do not have to.

You just expressed in words what l was going to say , now l don't have to.

Dudess · 13-11-2008 07:44PM

To be fair, the OP has a point about a decrease in spending affecting "sales" of something like cocaine. To say the recession "won't make a jot of a difference" is hardly accurate.

dr.bollocko · 13-11-2008 07:44PM

sharpshooterH wrote: »

You just expressed in words what l was going to say , now l don't have to.

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DarkJager · 13-11-2008 07:47PM

Dudess wrote: »

To be fair, the OP has a point about a decrease in spending affecting "sales" of something like cocaine. To say the recession "won't make a jot of a difference" is hardly accurate.

Well it won't really make any difference, the drug industry isn't tied into the national economy. I can't forsee any drug addicts running around shouting about how they "whacked another 3% onto the price of a bag of brown"

4zn76tysfajdxp · 13-11-2008 07:49PM

dr.bollocko wrote: »

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MoominPapa · 13-11-2008 07:55PM

Crystal meth is cheaper, lasts longer and makes you horny as ****. We can ride, literally, the recession out on a deadly buzz and once things turn around we can all go back on the coke or smack or whatever

Sharpshooter · 13-11-2008 08:00PM

dr.bollocko wrote: »

You're...
You're beautiful man.
Hug me.

l see what you did there..:D

Coraline Whispering Tourism wrote: »

She's a woman. Yeah.

/a lady, if you don't mind Coraline Whispering Tourism.

Even if l speak like a docker sometimes.:o

Mint Sauce · 13-11-2008 08:01PM

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brilliant

says it all

El_Dangeroso · 13-11-2008 08:03PM

Recession proof businesses include:

Drugs and alcohol
Gambling
Sex Industry

Oh and undertakers!

Dudess · 13-11-2008 08:08PM

DarkJager wrote: »

Well it won't really make any difference, the drug industry isn't tied into the national economy. I can't forsee any drug addicts running around shouting about how they "whacked another 3% onto the price of a bag of brown"

Oh I know, but there's a correlation between Ireland's increase in wealth and recreational cocaine use... if people are tightening their belts are they going to be as liberal with the coke purchasing of a Saturday night now?

El_Dangeroso · 13-11-2008 08:13PM

Cocaine will suffer, but weed and pills sales will skyrocket as people look for cheaper ways of having fun.

InkSlinger67 · 13-11-2008 08:14PM

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This is Captain Jean Luc Picard of the USS Enterprise if I am not mistaken. Cool!

DarkJager · 13-11-2008 08:19PM

Dudess wrote: »

Oh I know, but there's a correlation between Ireland's increase in wealth and recreational cocaine use... if people are tightening their belts are they going to be as liberal with the coke purchasing of a Saturday night now?

Of course they are. The reason people take drugs in the first place is to either alter or escape the reality they live in. With a recession & all the doom and gloom around I'd be surprised if sales didn't come UP (much like the addicts). Unfortunately, there's no sales figures we can get for the drug trade so we'll never know for sure

On the other hand, I can see the head shops starting to get a lot more business, if the gardai will ever leave them alone.

PurpleBerry · 13-11-2008 08:20PM

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Yeah, okay, I'll stop taking drugs then...

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marcsignal · 13-11-2008 08:20PM

Dudess wrote: »

To be fair, the OP has a point about a decrease in spending affecting "sales" of something like cocaine. To say the recession "won't make a jot of a difference" is hardly accurate.

i agree, and if coke sales go down, imo that's a good thing for Irish society.

some people are only too quick to start knockin the bollix out each other because of being unable to handle their booze, and that considered, the arrival of coke was a disaster for the irish psyche.

I won't miss it, or the gobshites that use it

dr.bollocko · 13-11-2008 08:21PM

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Yeah, okay, I'll stop taking drugs then...

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That is a lot of pills you have there.

PurpleBerry · 13-11-2008 08:22PM

dr.bollocko wrote: »

That is a lot of pills you have there.

Yes, I'm stocking up before they go off the shelves in March '09

DarkJager · 13-11-2008 08:22PM

dr.bollocko wrote: »

That is a lot of pills you have there.

It looks like the makings of a ****in rapid buzz doesn't it??

Abraham · 13-11-2008 08:25PM

Recession will solve Drug Abuse ? Ged....oud....of...it.
Bring back Dinny Mullins. He held it in check 30 years ago almost singlehandedly as the State's Official Drugbuster or so they say.....maybe he could do it again if he's still around. He had a couple of sidekicks but can't remember their names.:cool:

PurpleBerry · 13-11-2008 08:25PM

I will be down again next Tuesday for a few hours. I will resume non-high speech then.

dr.bollocko · 13-11-2008 08:27PM

Neesa wrote: »

I will be down again next Tuesday for a few hours. I will resume non-high speech then.

Epic.

DarkJager · 13-11-2008 08:32PM

Neesa wrote: »

I will be down again next Tuesday for a few hours. I will resume non-high speech then.

Thats going to be a serious ride on the Skag bus....

Overheal · 13-11-2008 08:32PM

sharpshooterH wrote: »

You just expressed in words what l was going to say , now l don't have to.

...ditto.

dr.bollocko · 13-11-2008 08:37PM

I really want facepalm to be post of the day tomorrow.
That is the only way I can foresee that particular forbidden fruit tasting any the sweeter.

CiaranC · 13-11-2008 08:38PM

MoominPapa wrote: »

Crystal meth is cheaper, lasts longer and makes you horny as ****. We can ride, literally, the recession out on a deadly buzz and once things turn around we can all go back on the coke or smack or whatever

That, my friend, is pure genius.

PurpleBerry · 13-11-2008 08:40PM

Apologies for my ignorance but... what's a "slag"?

dr.bollocko · 13-11-2008 08:42PM

Neesa wrote: »

Apologies for my ignorance but... what's a "slag"?

Skag my dear.
It means the bit after the fun bit.

DarkJager · 13-11-2008 08:45PM

Neesa wrote: »

Apologies for my ignorance but... what's a "slag"?

Its called the Skag...and he is a truly awful bastard to meet. He usually shows up the morning after you've been pulling mad faces and shapes in the form of unrelenting temperature adjustments and general "skaggedthe****outofit-ness".

dr.bollocko · 13-11-2008 08:47PM

Hours and hours and hours wondering who lives in a pineapple under the sea until you just want to hang yourself or have another beer.

PurpleBerry · 13-11-2008 08:48PM

Ooh, I get it, like a slapper, right? My husband will be happy to hear that!

dr.bollocko · 13-11-2008 08:50PM

Neesa wrote: »

Ooh, I get it, like a slapper, right? My husband will be happy to hear that!

You're really really really cold. If you go up two or three posts you might get warmer!;)
SKAG = The comedown.

DarkJager · 13-11-2008 08:53PM

dr.bollocko wrote: »

Hours and hours and hours wondering who lives in a pineapple under the sea until you just want to hang yourself or have another beer.

Hmmmm you were at that house party as well then??

Fionnanc · 13-11-2008 08:54PM

The lidocaine content of the coke will increase and the price decrease. MUppets will still boast about sniffing x grams of coke when all they have sniffed is x grams of cheap local anaesthetic making their thick faces numb

PurpleBerry · 13-11-2008 09:42PM

dr.bollocko wrote: »

You're really really really cold. If you go up two or three posts you might get warmer!;)
SKAG = The comedown.

I have NEVER heard a comedown being referred to as a "Skag".

Thank you. From now on I will say say "Can't talk. having a skag."

:D:D

DarkJager · 14-11-2008 07:36PM

Neesa wrote: »

I have NEVER heard a comedown being referred to as a "Skag".

Thank you. From now on I will say say "Can't talk. having a skag."

:D:D

Yes, that's because he likes to be referred to as "Mr Skag". Trust me, he'll go easier on you if you just play along

Wertz · 14-11-2008 07:52PM

Skag is a comedown?
Back when I used to go pilling, skagging was the part where you lost your upper off the E for a while due to being danced out of it, too drunk, or not having taken enough yokes.
The next day, I'd refer to as a comedown. Skag came from a slang term for heroin and for many years the urban myth of E's with heroin in them did the rounds, hence skagging (AFAIK)

Anyway back on topic and funnily enough I was talking to a guy I used buy weed off the toher night...he said he's going back to selling hash as the demand for bags of green has fallen in the past few months. More value and a cheaper price to be had from the hash, but to me it's a false economy, you're only smoking low grade crap and smoking a good bit more of it to have the same effect as the weed. Of course the obvious solution is to drop the price of the weed, but the higher ups aren't having any of that.
I do think this whole economy slow down will affect cocaine intake...I think a lot of people will finally realise that they've been paying well over the odds for stuff that's been cut to sh*t, in this country and that a few yokes or a bag of speed will provide a lot more value for money.
Drink won't suffer, pills won't suffer and overall demand for hash/weed probably won't suffer...to most users these aren't luxury items, or if they are, they're well down the list of luxuries that can be cut out...

WooPeeA · 14-11-2008 07:57PM

Nothing will solve drug epidemic except making it legal under full government control.

Other options can make it only smaller.

DublinWriter · 14-11-2008 07:57PM

earlyevening wrote: »

What do you think?

I think you're too young to remember that Dublin was Smack-Head Central in the depressed 80's.

ScumLord · 14-11-2008 08:00PM

The poorer countries have much worse drug problems than we do.

MCMLXXXIII · 14-11-2008 09:35PM

From my experience, people seem to budget their "fun" money as a top priority above other things. They will spend the same amount on drugs and buy cheaper food, for example.
Now, for the slightly-off-topic part that will come back full-circle.
There are a few cities in the US where the bars and nightclubs stay open later than 2am (like the rest of the country). Some of those include New York City, Chicago, New Orleans, etc. Those cities have far more cocaine usage than the rest of the other large cities in the US. People in these cities use very small amounts, but much more often, as a bump so they can stay up until 4am or 6am. The people in the other cities are not tired by 2am, so they don't need the little bumps here and there, so they just don't buy the cocaine.
Does anyone think that the new closing time mixed with the economic downturn will naturally stop the true recreational users?
Unless someone is very addicted and dependant on their high, it seems like the little uses here and there are going to get "weeded" out by socioety.

What do ye think?

Yes, the pun was intended.

The Real B-man · 14-11-2008 10:06PM

The Junkies will just have to mug more people cause they have feck all money!:pac:

Bottle_of_Smoke · 15-11-2008 12:34AM

Neesa wrote: »

I have NEVER heard a comedown being referred to as a "Skag".

Thank you. From now on I will say say "Can't talk. having a skag."

:D:D

I know lads in Blessington who say "skagging" when refering to the comedown off E

Though usually people mean heroin when they say "skag"

On topic, the only effect the recession might have is coke could get cheaper. Might even increase it's use.

Recession will solve drug epidemic

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