Self-Righteous People That Give Blood

24-03-2009 06:32AM

Jaundice as a baby doesnt exclude you.

amacachi · 24-03-2009 06:39AM

Grand so, anyone know what the story is about taking drugs and how long ya have to wait after a specific method of taking them?

Wacker · 24-03-2009 09:50PM

amacachi wrote: »

Grand so, anyone know what the story is about taking drugs and how long ya have to wait after a specific method of taking them?

What specific method? When I donated platelets in November I admitted to the staff that I was just back from Amsterdam, where I had smoked, but stayed away from the hookers. They gave me the green light, even though it had just been two days.
If you've snorted coke in the last year, you're ineligible, and if you've ever injected (be it smack or steroids or whatever) then you can never donate.

Arcee · 24-03-2009 10:53PM

Here's a fairly comprehensive list of the things that will preclude you from being a blood donor - hope this clears things up

http://www.ibts.ie/Become_a_Donor/Keeping_Blood_Safe/Safety/

Acacia · 24-03-2009 11:06PM

longshanks wrote: »

i'd be of the opinion that if you can give it, you should give it. there's a moral obligation to try help those in worse shape or whatever. i don't get any way righteous about it, each to their own and all that. the argument 'i dont like needles' is fairly weak and pathetic though. who does like them in all honesty? maybe grow a pair and just get on with it

That's your morals, though. Not anyone else's and they shouldn't have to give blood, just because some people feel guilty if they don't do it themselves.

Some people may have a phobia / very strong fear of needles, so it's all very well for others to say 'just get on with it', when they're not the ones having to get over such a fear. Some people get physically sick/ have nightmares over getting injections or whatever. It's not always as easy as ''growing a pair''.

Capt'n Midnight · 24-03-2009 11:40PM

orestes wrote: »

I recieved loads of blood when I was a kid (full transfusion kinda stuff) so I went to try and donate blood a while ago to give something back and all that.

recycled blood :eek:

seriously allowing people to donate donated blood is a bit like STD's in that you have sex with everyone your partners have had sex with too. Also might lead to a feedback loop bit like the old CJD or mad cow thing or laughing sickness which is one of the most fatal diseases you can get, not sure if you can get it through blood though.

Can you donate organs ?

Dave! · 25-03-2009 12:32AM

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

recycled blood :eek:

seriously allowing people to donate donated blood is a bit like STD's in that you have sex with everyone your partners have had sex with too. Also might lead to a feedback loop bit like the old CJD or mad cow thing or laughing sickness which is one of the most fatal diseases you can get, not sure if you can get it through blood though.

Can you donate organs ?

Yes

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Gazza22 · 25-03-2009 12:34AM

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

recycled blood :eek:

seriously allowing people to donate donated blood is a bit like STD's in that you have sex with everyone your partners have had sex with too. Also might lead to a feedback loop bit like the old CJD or mad cow thing or laughing sickness which is one of the most fatal diseases you can get, not sure if you can get it through blood though.

Can you donate organs ?

Yeah he can be an organ donor, you would only be excluded if you actively have AIDS/HIV/HEP B, C/tuberculosis/syphilis and some autoimmune diseases such as Crohn's Disease etc. Apart from that afaik there is no risk group attached to organ donation, this is independently assessed by the organ donation team who will perform strict tests on the potential donor. A healthy organ at that moment in time is a healthy organ and will be transplanted.

What exactly do you mean by your analogy on "donating donated blood"? When somebody receives a blood transfusion, their blood make-up isn't changed. It's impossible for the received donation to be ever donated. It is merely a once off donation of the required components on blood to allow the patient to survive for that moment in time. Over a period of months the donated blood will be eventually be removed by the body and replenished by blood made by the patient themselves. So there is nothing strange about somebody who has received a donation, donating in the future (as long as they are in line with IBTS regs)

longshanks · 25-03-2009 12:51AM

Acacia wrote: »

That's your morals, though. Not anyone else's and they shouldn't have to give blood, just because some people feel guilty if they don't do it themselves.

Some people may have a phobia / very strong fear of needles, so it's all very well for others to say 'just get on with it', when they're not the ones having to get over such a fear. Some people get physically sick/ have nightmares over getting injections or whatever. It's not always as easy as ''growing a pair''.

you're talking bollox right there son. its not my morals at all. anyone who is a member of any community is morally obliged to try and help that community. i'm not talking about back breaking toil or any such effort. just be a positive rather than a negative influence.
i've fainted a couple of times after donating, but it didn't kill me so i go back when i get the chance. and i hate needles, i hate the feel of it going in and i hate the feel of it coming back out. i'm not mad about the blood pressure armband thing either, but fuck it, i look away and talk shite to the nurses and then it over. and i like the free pens. and the plastic glass of the black stuff, packet of crisps, digestive biscuits. even the warm 7up

Dave! · 25-03-2009 01:04AM

Students should definitely do it, nothing like eating free Time Out bars and King crisps for lunch

Yummehhh

Exneigh · 25-03-2009 02:08AM

I gave blood last November and I died.

never again.

amacachi · 25-03-2009 02:39AM

Wacker wrote: »

What specific method? When I donated platelets in November I admitted to the staff that I was just back from Amsterdam, where I had smoked, but stayed away from the hookers. They gave me the green light, even though it had just been two days.
If you've snorted coke in the last year, you're ineligible, and if you've ever injected (be it smack or steroids or whatever) then you can never donate.

Ah right, that's me out so.

Acacia · 25-03-2009 11:16AM

longshanks wrote: »

you're talking bollox right there son. its not my morals at all. anyone who is a member of any community is morally obliged to try and help that community. i'm not talking about back breaking toil or any such effort. just be a positive rather than a negative influence.
i've fainted a couple of times after donating, but it didn't kill me so i go back when i get the chance. and i hate needles, i hate the feel of it going in and i hate the feel of it coming back out. i'm not mad about the blood pressure armband thing either, but fuck it, i look away and talk shite to the nurses and then it over. and i like the free pens. and the plastic glass of the black stuff, packet of crisps, digestive biscuits. even the warm 7up

Firstly, I'm not talking 'bollox', I'm just expressing my opinion. Secondly, I'm not a guy so could you ease up on the patronizing 'son' business.
I see my point has gone directly over your head. What you've described is all your own personal experience and kudos to you for donating. I'm saying that not everyone can suck it up and just get on with it, and for you to say 'just grow a pair of balls and get over it' , I find a bit offensive, tbh.

You say 'to each their own' then turn around say ''actually they should just get over it and do it.' Therefore, you are forcing your morals on other people, imo.

And people can help out in their community in other ways rather than donating blood, you know.

speedboatchase · 25-03-2009 12:11PM

Well said Acacia. I'm glad the self-righetous indignation I spoke of in the OP is rearing its ugly head to show people the crap some of these people spout. That said, Longshanks is a true Irish hero

Exneigh · 25-03-2009 12:15PM

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/british-scientists-to-create-synthetic-blood-1651715.html

If that goes well we may not have to donate blood in the future.. And Vampires will be able to come out of hiding!

XXNikXX · 25-03-2009 01:02PM

As soon as i turned 18 i was off to donate, i do it because people need blood and i have some to spare, simple as. Its not a big deal, you go in, they take some blood and afterwards you get taytos and orange.

My brother has a real fear of needles, he's attacked doctors who've tried to take blood or give him an injection. He cant explain why but they put the fear of god into him. I can understand people like that not wanting to donate but so many others just don't want the hassle or couldn't be arsed.

I don't like needles but I suck it up and its over in no time. Nobody should feel pressured into doing anything but I don't understand why someone who can give blood wouldn't. You'd happily take it if needed.

25-03-2009 02:42PM

OP, next time you're confronted about giving blood, lie and say you're gonna be donating bone marrow and try get them to go along.. they'll say no and you can lay into them with the same guilt trip they gave you.

is there some law about taking drugs and giving blood?

monkeyfudge · 25-03-2009 02:45PM

Deleted User wrote: »

is there some law about taking drugs and giving blood?

I reckon if you've ever done anything fun in your life then you're not allowed give blood.

Giving blood is the limit of the fun that you're allowed have.

longshanks · 25-03-2009 02:47PM

Acacia wrote: »

Firstly, I'm not talking 'bollox', I'm just expressing my opinion. Secondly, I'm not a guy so could you ease up on the patronizing 'son' business.
I see my point has gone directly over your head. What you've described is all your own personal experience and kudos to you for donating. I'm saying that not everyone can suck it up and just get on with it, and for you to say 'just grow a pair of balls and get over it' , I find a bit offensive, tbh.

You say 'to each their own' then turn around say ''actually they should just get over it and do it.' Therefore, you are forcing your morals on other people, imo.

And people can help out in their community in other ways rather than donating blood, you know.

ok kid, sorry for the son comment. i also see my point has gone over your pretty head. what i was saying about growing a pair is my own personal belief, and if you read my first post i said i dont force those beliefs on anyone. each to their own etc. and i never said people had to give blood to help their community, more along the lines of being a positive rather than a negative influence. and like most things the worst part is making the decision to do it. its like exercise, housework, facing up to mistakes etc, once you start you realise its not as bad as you thought it would be.

speedboatchase wrote: »

Well said Acacia. I'm glad the self-righetous indignation I spoke of in the OP is rearing its ugly head to show people the crap some of these people spout. That said, Longshanks is a true Irish hero

yeah, you still come across pretty weak. if you dont want to do it, fair enough, dont. just realise that the 'i dont like needles' spiel isn't gonna win you a huge amount of support.
i am a hero though, i even wear my underpants outside my trousers

Sir Gallagher · 25-03-2009 02:55PM

longshanks wrote: »

ok kid, sorry for the son comment. i also see my point has gone over your pretty head. what i was saying about growing a pair is my own personal belief, and if you read my first post i said i dont force those beliefs on anyone. each to their own etc. and i never said people had to give blood to help their community, more along the lines of being a positive rather than a negative influence. and like most things the worst part is making the decision to do it. its like exercise, housework, facing up to mistakes etc, once you start you realise its not as bad as you thought it would be.

yeah, you still come across pretty weak. if you dont want to do it, fair enough, dont. just realise that the 'i dont like needles' spiel isn't gonna win you a huge amount of support.
i am a hero though, i even wear my underpants outside my trousers

So how many pairs of balls do you have then, must be loads.

longshanks · 25-03-2009 02:59PM

loads of balls. its like a bouncy castle down there

Lollipops23 · 25-03-2009 03:06PM

i give blood because i'm a universal donor. however,if i should ever need a transfusion i can only have my own blood type back; and not a whole lot of people have it(9% of irish people). I reckon the more i put in to the system, the more likely it is that there'll be blood for my own transfusion!!it's just sense!!

wudangclan · 25-03-2009 03:15PM

i went one time to d'olier street to donate blood,about 10 years ago,all pleased with myself about my soon to be contribution to society.as i go in the door i get a form to fill out ,am told to fill it out and to wait.
two of the questions were; had i injested drugs intraveanously (?) or nasally in the last 12 months and had i slept with a prostitute in the last 12 months,both of which i had done.(nasally for the record,no not the hooker)
so as i'm filling the form i face a quick moral dilemma,tell the truth or lie on the form.i decide to tell the truth ,in the public interest,this being a serious thing and me being usually honest.
so next,of course, i get called over by a young,gorgeous female who calls me into an office and proceeds to go through the form.
i have plenty of time sitting there,as she starts through the application, to contemplate the oncoming embarrasment.when she hits the magic questions her mouth drops, i hold my hands up and say i was being as honest as possible and that if i'd known the procedure or requirments i wouldn't have got this far and that probably other people have got to this juncture and lied to save themselves the embarrasment.
she thanked me and i happily fled the office,never to return.

Gazza22 · 25-03-2009 03:19PM

Lollipops23 wrote: »

i give blood because i'm a universal donor. however,if i should ever need a transfusion i can only have my own blood type back; and not a whole lot of people have it(9% of irish people). I reckon the more i put in to the system, the more likely it is that there'll be blood for my own transfusion!!it's just sense!!

Quite a few of us boardsies seem to O- on this thread! I agree, if you have a 'rare' or useful blood type you should try to make the effort to donate.

Donny5 · 25-03-2009 03:23PM

wudangclan wrote: »

two of the questions were; had i injested drugs intraveanously (?) or nasally in the last 12 months and had i slept with a prostitute in the last 12 months,both of which i had done.(nasally for the record,no not the hooker)

Intravenous drug use is drug injection into a vein. Were you shooting up in your nose?

monkeyfudge · 25-03-2009 03:25PM

I have no idea what blood type I am.

Is that strange?

wudangclan · 25-03-2009 03:27PM

Donny5 wrote: »

Intravenous drug use is drug injection into a vein. Were you shooting up in your nose?

its a much better hit when you shoot up in your nose

javaboy · 25-03-2009 03:32PM

monkeyfudge wrote: »

I have no idea what blood type I am.

Is that strange?

With all that monkey blood, I presume you're Rh+ anyway.

monkeyfudge · 25-03-2009 03:33PM

Hehehe... I get that joke!

wudangclan · 25-03-2009 03:34PM

javaboy wrote: »

With all that monkey blood, I presume you're Rh+ anyway.

chocolate flavoured

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