bupa 10K run in dublin 5th April ?

TheRoadRunner · 15-01-2009 10:27am

stmochtas wrote: »

RF is the national champs open to all runners (even us at the 45+ mark)?

Sorry for jumping in but yes open to all ages and standard. People are normally associated with an AAI club but it is possible to run as an individual also. There are usually medals for different age categories also 35-39, 40-44, 45-49 etc

stmochtas · 15-01-2009 10:52am

Thanks for this.

cfitz · 15-01-2009 11:43am

I find it hard to understand why all the >40 minute runners are so keen on running this race, expecially when you take the price into account. But I'm definitely in favour of having high standard races in Ireland with lots of appearance money and prize money for fast runners. So the organisers need a big field to pay for the international guys. I also think organising races for profit makes perfect sense and I don't see why anyone would have a problem with it.

I think the reason 32-38 minute runners stay away from it is because it doesn't offer them anything they can't get from a smaller race. I don't think there's anything more to it - it's not coz they have a problem with it - it's just not marketed towards them.

Racing Flat · 15-01-2009 12:18pm

stmochtas wrote: »

RF is the national champs open to all runners (even us at the 45+ mark)?

As Road Runner said, open to anyone. Check out the Athletics Ireland site for results for last few years. There'll usually be 100 or so under 40mins, but you'll also have people much slower like in a typical locally organised 10k race.

cfitz wrote: »

I think the reason 32-38 minute runners stay away from it is because it doesn't offer them anything they can't get from a smaller race. I don't think there's anything more to it - it's not coz they have a problem with it - it's just not marketed towards them.

I think people do have a bit of a problem with it (maybe that's their problem!!!). Like Road Runner said, a lot of people from his club don't enter it. Similarly in my club, many of the fellows who do every race going, don't tend to do this. I'm not exactly sure why. Price is probably the main thing, the worry that if you continue supporting races like this, they might all go up in price. Like Sky Sports - everyone was outraged at the thought of paying for TV originally, but now you kind of have to have it if you want to watch the sport. But that's for another day and forum.

It was my first ever race and I really enjoyed it, but then after doing some other races, which I go back to every year, I wouldn't be too inclined to do the Great Run again. I said earlier I found it a bit tacky, a bit of razzmatazz, more of an event than a race and the running doesn't seem to be the most important part of the day. But then that's probably the perfect way to market it for new and fun runners as the numbers and popularity will testify.

Because a lot of people in clubs don't do it, it means it is a lot less competitive around 35-37min mark, so you might be running on your own moreso than in your typical 10k, so again, less of an inclincation to run it. Vicious circle?

Just remembered actually, another reason some people may be against it is that when they ran it first they ran it in Loughrea or somewhere near there on around the same time as the Loughrea 5k (or is it 5m?). I think this hit the Loughrea 5k badly and so they were a bit annoyed at the big company coming in taking their business. Somebody from Loughrea told me this, so apologies if the facts are wrong. Correct me and I will edit!

shels4ever · 15-01-2009 1:56pm

Racing Flat wrote: »

I said earlier I found it a bit tacky, a bit of razzmatazz, more of an event than a race and the running doesn't seem to be the most important part of the day.

Have to agree with you on this it is a ver very good event. But not a great race , They do market it well and main goal of alot of the field is just to complete the distance. This was me last year but since then the distance isnt a factor in my races its time and quality of the field. So this race has been dropped , I will targe more of the Bhaa and Club races with small fields.

I would love it if they went the way of the great north run and had some other races too, maybe promote our home based runner more ie have our top milers there maybe 3000m too.

This would show off our talent to the thousands of people that are there on the day and i'd even go to watch.

blind_hurler · 15-01-2009 3:19pm

ClashCityRocker wrote: »

I made the same vow for the same reason after the race last year, but I see this year they're giving technical t-shirts...I'm a sucker for a good technical t-shirt

I must be blind I don't see any mention that it's a technical t-shirt this year...
I am starting to fear it's time for a trip to the opticians :rolleyes:

Where does it say that??

who007 · 15-01-2009 3:24pm

blind_hurler wrote: »

I must be blind I don't see any mention that it's a technical t-shirt this year...
I am starting to fear it's time for a trip to the opticians :rolleyes:

Where does it say that??

came in the literature though the door, and the email newsletter..

blind_hurler · 15-01-2009 3:31pm

Thanks I thought I was going mad as there is no mention of it on the web page...

I might do it again this year (I've run this twice before) as I too am a sucker for the technical top

plodder · 15-01-2009 3:33pm

I've done it a few times (and btw the comments about congestion are spot on). A novel thing about it, is they give you a special T shirt with your county's colours on it, and a lot of people wear them for the race. The thing is, I've found whatever way they print the county flag on the back, makes the T-shirt unwearable. It just sticks to your back. So, when you enter you can say you're not associated with a county and I think the shirt won't have the printed flag on the back then ...

Seres · 15-01-2009 4:13pm

what has appealed to me about this race is that its on at one o clock , and for me that suits , alot of races in dublin are too early for people traveling from down the country with families , most races in dublin and elsewhere (that are far away )are ruled out for me because of the early starts , this also applies to triathlons , which normally start at 9/10 clock

hunnymonster · 15-01-2009 4:25pm

I can see where you are coming from but to me an early start is actually a bonus as I have a good chunk of the day afterwards to do other stuff. I don't mind getting up at 5am to be there.

MCOS · 15-01-2009 4:28pm

Seres wrote: »

what has appealed to me about this race is that its on at one o clock , and for me that suits , alot of races in dublin are too early for people traveling from down the country with families , most races in dublin and elsewhere (that are far away )are ruled out for me because of the early starts , this also applies to triathlons , which normally start at 9/10 clock

Halleiujah! I live down the country also and for me to participate in events up in Dublin or Leinster or further North I have to book in somewhere over night. For example I have registered for TriAthy Olympic and will be leaving Limerick at silly O clock that day to get to registration for the event! Not a complaint, it just is as it is :rolleyes: I'd love to be meeting boardsies for training sessions and at races week in week out like the BAC guys doing the BHAA and XC events. Hence why this and Dungarvan suited, both lunch time starts!

MCOS · 15-01-2009 4:30pm

hunnymonster wrote: »

I can see where you are coming from but to me an early start is actually a bonus as I have a good chunk of the day afterwards to do other stuff. I don't mind getting up at 5am to be there.

A bit trickier when you have kids to manage :cool:

Seres · 15-01-2009 4:58pm

MCOS wrote: »

Halleiujah! I live down the country also and for me to participate in events up in Dublin or Leinster or further North I have to book in somewhere over night. For example I have registered for TriAthy Olympic and will be leaving Limerick at silly O clock that day to get to registration for the event! Not a complaint, it just is as it is :rolleyes: I'd love to be meeting boardsies for training sessions and at races week in week out like the BAC guys doing the BHAA and XC events. Hence why this and Dungarvan suited, both lunch time starts!

Just to address what hm said first , like that i wolud not have a problem getting up personally at 5am to arrive at a race but obviously just not a running when you have a family , i just feel that there are few running events in dublin especially geared for people outside of dublin with family commitments
really wanted to sign up for triathy but due to your reason mention above
not possible , therefore must stick to triathlons close by
ok whinge is now finished ! enough said

hunnymonster · 15-01-2009 6:05pm

MCOS wrote: »

A bit trickier when you have kids to manage :cool:

True.

Racing Flat · 15-01-2009 6:38pm

Seres wrote: »

alot of races in dublin are too early for people traveling from down the country

MCOS wrote: »

Halleiujah! I live down the country also and for me to participate in events up in Dublin

Seres wrote: »

i just feel that there are few running events in dublin especially geared for people outside of dublin with family commitments

Raheny 5 mile will be right up yere street then. 3.00pm start, last Sunday in January.

Funnily enough, that's my only complaint about Raheny - I wish it was earlier. Get stuck between whether to have breakfast, lunch, or both; Sunday over and almost time to go to work by the time the race and afters are done and dusted:mad:. In fairness though, excellent race, couldn't recommend it highly enough. Very fast, very friendly, usually a good goody bag and loads of refreshments after.

15-01-2009 7:36pm

Ahh balls! working that day

TheRoadRunner · 15-01-2009 8:11pm

Racing Flat wrote: »

Funnily enough, that's my only complaint about Raheny - I wish it was earlier. Get stuck between whether to have breakfast, lunch, or both; Sunday over and almost time to go to work by the time the race and afters are done and dusted:mad:. In fairness though, excellent race, couldn't recommend it highly enough. Very fast, very friendly, usually a good goody bag and loads of refreshments after.

+1 I love this race and hate missing it. The 3 o'clock start is the only downside for me also. I think they have it to accommodate people traveling as was suggested earlier. Still wouldn't put me off this race though.

Woddle · 15-01-2009 9:05pm

It's chip time aswell this year

uberwolf · 15-01-2009 9:07pm

I'm thinking of running the marathon this year, from a standing start. I might sign up to this over the coming weekend to commit myself to some training.

plodder · 15-01-2009 11:08pm

Racing Flat wrote: »

Raheny 5 mile will be right up yere street then. 3.00pm start, last Sunday in January.

Funnily enough, that's my only complaint about Raheny - I wish it was earlier. Get stuck between whether to have breakfast, lunch, or both; Sunday over and almost time to go to work by the time the race and afters are done and dusted:mad:. In fairness though, excellent race, couldn't recommend it highly enough. Very fast, very friendly, usually a good goody bag and loads of refreshments after.

+1.

It gets a great turnout, without being quite as hectic and congested as the Bupa.

chinguetti · 15-01-2009 11:20pm

So on reading this thread am i right in saying Raheny rocks and Bupa doesn't?

zorkmundsson · 16-01-2009 2:04pm

Well I for one am going to give the Bupa a rattle. never ran a 10k before and badly need something to train for.

On that note, is a target of 49'49" completely mental for a first-time 10k on this sort of course? As i said, i've never raced the distance before, my only outing being the Dublin Marathon in October which i managed to not walk around in just under 5 hours. Too ambitious?

estariol · 16-01-2009 2:17pm

zorkmundsson wrote: »

Well I for one am going to give the Bupa a rattle. never ran a 10k before and badly need something to train for.

On that note, is a target of 49'49" completely mental for a first-time 10k on this sort of course? As i said, i've never raced the distance before, my only outing being the Dublin Marathon in October which i managed to not walk around in just under 5 hours. Too ambitious?

Probably a little bit ambitious, but you could always try gate to gate in the phoenix park and see your time its about 10K, I would say add on about 10% to compensate for hills and the busy start.

or alternatively I use this as my triathlon training route x5 laps, http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=2494823
very useful if you're using garmin 305 or similar for monitoring progress

zorkmundsson · 16-01-2009 2:19pm

estariol wrote: »

Probably a little bit ambitious, but you could always try gate to gate in the phoenix park and see your time its about 10K, I would say add on about 10% to compensate for hills and the busy start.

cheers, was thinking of that all right, going out and actually doing a 10k to see where i'm at and what i have to change. good idea.

Racing Flat · 16-01-2009 2:23pm

zorkmundsson wrote: »

On that note, is a target of 49'49" completely mental for a first-time 10k on this sort of course?

I did 42mins for this my first ever race a few years ago after 3 months training.

estariol wrote: »

gate to gate in the phoenix park and see your time its about 10K,

Gate to gate and back again.

beertons · 16-01-2009 2:38pm

I only started running last night, and I hope to do the 10k in under an hour. Anything is possible man, don't rule out under 50 minutes just yet.....

louthandproud · 16-01-2009 2:44pm

Racing Flat wrote: »

I did 42mins for this my first ever race a few years ago after 3 months training.

Gate to gate and back again.

Main gate to main gate and back comes out at about 9k on map my run.

estariol · 16-01-2009 2:50pm

louthandproud wrote: »

Main gate to main gate and back comes out at about 9k on map my run.

This came up before, and my forerunner 305 gps places it at just over 9.8k dont really trust the distances on mapmyrun.

shels4ever · 16-01-2009 3:03pm

zorkmundsson wrote: »

Well I for one am going to give the Bupa a rattle. never ran a 10k before and badly need something to train for.

On that note, is a target of 49'49" completely mental for a first-time 10k on this sort of course? As i said, i've never raced the distance before, my only outing being the Dublin Marathon in October which i managed to not walk around in just under 5 hours. Too ambitious?

Well anything is possible. get out and see how you feel. No point in pushing yourself too hard in training but try and get out 4 times a week and see how it goes. If your coming from a level of 5 hour marathon I would guess that your 10k time would be abotu 60 mins at the moment so it would be possible to take 6 mins from that with a few montsh training.. 49 mins may take a bit more work....

zorkmundsson · 16-01-2009 3:28pm

shels4ever wrote: »

Well anything is possible. get out and see how you feel. No point in pushing yourself too hard in training but try and get out 4 times a week and see how it goes. If your coming from a level of 5 hour marathon I would guess that your 10k time would be abotu 60 mins at the moment so it would be possible to take 6 mins from that with a few montsh training.. 49 mins may take a bit more work....

"a bit more work" is my middle name! i hear what you're saying. may aswell be ambitious, though. thanks.

shels4ever · 16-01-2009 4:16pm

zorkmundsson wrote: »

"a bit more work" is my middle name! i hear what you're saying. may aswell be ambitious, though. thanks.

ambitious but possible. But once you get a few runs in you should have an idea. It took me 65 mins for this race last year and i'd prob be in the 48 bracket now..

zorkmundsson · 19-01-2009 10:06am

Went out and did a 10k on Sat, from my gaff to the last roundabout in Phoenix Park and back again. Came in at 49'55" in the wind and rain, so delighted with that. 49'59" for April 5? why not.

shels4ever · 19-01-2009 10:57am

zorkmundsson wrote: »

Went out and did a 10k on Sat, from my gaff to the last roundabout in Phoenix Park and back again. Came in at 49'55" in the wind and rain, so delighted with that. 49'59" for April 5? why not.

why not 46 now

zorkmundsson · 19-01-2009 11:03am

indeed, shels. it turns out i'm an idiot who can't type. meant to make my target for bupa 44'59". will give it a rattle, anyway.

estariol · 19-01-2009 11:24am

zorkmundsson wrote: »

indeed, shels. it turns out i'm an idiot who can't type. meant to make my target for bupa 44'59". will give it a rattle, anyway.

Race day conditions can be a bit different, might be worth checking out the Cupids Dash 10K, organised by irishfit.eu Should be small enough field and its a nice route through the park. Would give you a better idea of starting conditions and a realistic race time.

zorkmundsson · 19-01-2009 11:28am

estariol wrote: »

Race day conditions can be a bit different, might be worth checking out the Cupids Dash 10K, organised by irishfit.eu Should be small enough field and its a nice route through the park. Would give you a better idea of starting conditions and a realistic race time.

that's a good point. not sure how mrs. sson would react to my pi$$ing about in the park on that day of days, but it's an option.

charlii · 19-01-2009 12:22pm

Louthandproud. You should try the Carlingford Half Marathon/10k Walk on Sat. March 7th. They keep the two events separate but they go off at the same time. Try www.stbrigids.net for info

louthandproud · 19-01-2009 1:01pm

charlii wrote: »

Louthandproud. You should try the Carlingford Half Marathon/10k Walk on Sat. March 7th. They keep the two events separate but they go off at the same time. Try www.stbrigids.net for info

Thanks, I just might do that. It's my birthday too!

jojobrad · 01-02-2009 5:28pm

estariol wrote: »

Probably a little bit ambitious, but you could always try gate to gate in the phoenix park and see your time its about 10K, I would say add on about 10% to compensate for hills and the busy start.

Is it really 10k from gate to gate ?

Racing Flat · 01-02-2009 6:18pm

jojobrad wrote: »

Is it really 10k from gate to gate ?

Gate to gate AND BACK AGAIN = 10k

shels4ever · 01-02-2009 6:48pm

Racing Flat wrote: »

Gate to gate AND BACK AGAIN = 10k

Thats a pity , Though my 25 min jogs from gate to gate had me under the world record...

jojobrad · 01-02-2009 7:18pm

Racing Flat wrote: »

Gate to gate AND BACK AGAIN = 10k

Yeah I knew you meant gate to gate and back .........but I thought it was 8k

01-02-2009 7:25pm

OK, I'm at 0, would it be feasible to go from 0 to 10K in two months? (not looking for speed records people, just crossing the finish line after a decent pace

!)

Krusty_Clown · 01-02-2009 8:19pm

Deleted User wrote: »

OK, I'm at 0, would it be feasible to go from 0 to 10K in two months? (not looking for speed records people, just crossing the finish line after a decent pace !)

Here's an eight week novice 10k program: Hal Higdon. Better put on your runners and get out there!

SeanMurphy · 02-02-2009 9:53am

Gate to gate and back is 8.5km - Courtesy of mapmyrun

Munster_Gal · 03-02-2009 9:21pm

Link for the running route for the Great Ireland Run

http://greatrun.org/Events/Information.aspx?ctid=70&id=7

not quite gate to gate

Keedowah · 30-03-2009 9:44pm

Not sure if it has been answered already, so apologies if it has.

I have collected some money for the Marie Keating foundation, will I be able to deposit it before the race - dont want to leave it in my race pack!

jlang · 30-03-2009 10:34pm

Munster_Gal wrote: »

Link for the running route for the Great Ireland Run

http://greatrun.org/Events/Information.aspx?ctid=70&id=7

What an awful map! The route schematic itself is fine, but the representations of the park perimeter and the surrounding area are woeful. It's obviously based on a Google Maps map and done by someone who doesn't know which parts of green are inside the park and which local place names are of any relevance.

Munster_Gal · 31-03-2009 7:39am

jlang wrote: »

What an awful map! The route schematic itself is fine, but the representations of the park perimeter and the surrounding area are woeful. It's obviously based on a Google Maps map and done by someone who doesn't know which parts of green are inside the park and which local place names are of any relevance.

I'm not too familiar with the phoenix park so can't really comment on it. Just posted what I found on the Great Run website.... :rolleyes:

bupa 10K run in dublin 5th April ?

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