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Shuttle Launch Visible from Ireland Tonight

  • 12-07-2009 01:42PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,840 ✭✭✭


    Just a heads up about tonights Shuttle Launch. It was postponed last night due to a Lightning strike at the launch pad and has been re-scheduled for tonight. Very Lucky for us as the weather yesterday and last night was attrocious whereas tonight the forecast is for some clear skies.

    Should be higher up and brighter too than if they had launched last night.

    Its certainly visible from Ireland and I presume from parts of the UK.

    Its going to be a treat of manmade objects blazing across the heavens tonight. At about 12:01 am there is a 70º altitude ISS pass followed shortly thereafter by a Progress Re-supply vehicle on its way to the ISS. Then at about 12:30 we will see the Shuttle and its Jettisoned Orange main fuel tank a degree or so below blaze across the skies 18 minutes after its launch from Florida in the USA.

    Get out there with your Bino's and laptops and watch the Launch on Nasa TV. It'll be cool if they show live footage of the Fuel Tank Jettisoning and you'll be able to see the real deal at the same time!


    Just thought I would post this in a separate thread to the STS128 to the ISS thread. That thread title might not catch the eye of casual browsers and they might not realise that the subject of that thread has become the Shuttle and Jettisoned main fuel tank visible from Ireland tonight.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,900 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Can you see it with the naked eye, what will it look like, shooting star?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37 Wella


    Thanks for the heads up :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,840 ✭✭✭Calibos


    Can you see it with the naked eye, what will it look like, shooting star?

    Not a shooting star with a tail. But it'll look like a pair or bright stars moving across the southern sky west to east quite fast. Not sure if one will be able to detect the orange tint of the jettisoned main fuel tank with the naked eye, but the orange colour should be visible in Binoculars.

    The ISS pass before hand will be higher in the sky nearly over head travelling from west to east and that should be really bright. If you remember the really bright star in the west last Christmas which was actually the Planet Venus or if you have recently seen a really bright star in the South east in the wee hours on your way home from the pub which is actually the Planet Jupiter, well then that will give you an idea of how bright the ISS passing overhead will be. The Shuttle and Fuel Tank will be a bit dimmer than that though.

    Heres a vid of the last time a shuttle launch and fuel tank was visible from Ireland.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,281 ✭✭✭Ricky91t


    Cool i'm gonna look out for this :),I have open fields to the left(west) of my house so a nice clear sky,Is this where i'll see it?(looking in the general direction of America?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,122 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    Anyone know what the story is now that it was delayed? Wheres the best place to track this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,840 ✭✭✭Calibos


    It was last nights launch that was delayed 24 hours due to Lightning strikes on the Launch pad. Its a Go for Launch tonight as far as I know unless you have new info Thargor mate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,483 ✭✭✭Ostrom


    Calibos wrote: »
    It was last nights launch that was delayed 24 hours due to Lightning strikes on the Launch pad. Its a Go for Launch tonight as far as I know unless you have new info Thargor mate.

    Hope the weather holds...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    Naked eye any use?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 45 murphyme


    amacachi wrote: »
    Naked eye any use?

    It's a lovely naked eye sight, well worth watching.

    Michael.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Typically its clouded in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,559 ✭✭✭refusetolose


    full of clouds here in cork too


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,483 ✭✭✭Ostrom


    Looks like a large storm moving toward Dublin from Kildare


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,122 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    Its clear-ish in Galway, around 00:30 tonight then is it? What was the exact time?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,706 ✭✭✭120_Minutes


    according to nasa tv, launch is 7:15 local time, so 12:15 here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭skelliser


    according to heavens above iss will pass at 12.01
    shuttle will launch at 12.13 so around 12.25-12.30 should be the time to have a look


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,122 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    Sweet, thanks, still clear skies here, touch wood.


  • Posts: 4,630 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Thanks for letting us know about this. Skies are semi-clear here in Galway, so fingers crossed that the conditions hold.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 772 ✭✭✭floydmoon1


    Should I be looking north or south for this.
    What area if Ireland will it pass over.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭skelliser


    you should look to the south west all the objects will come from that direction, cross the sky and fade out in the east


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    There is a link above to show when and where.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,293 ✭✭✭Fuzzy Clam


    Sky News just announced a no go.
    Edit. They now say NASA are still monitoring the situation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,456 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent


    Looks like the launch is going to be scrubbed - there are thunderstorms close by :(

    (The countdown is still going though, no announcement yet)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 206 ✭✭draward


    Hi guys is it going or not
    :p:rolleyes::)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 206 ✭✭draward


    Sorry guys no launch fox news tommrow at 6:15 pm:(:(:(:(:(:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,840 ✭✭✭Calibos


    No. Just as well too. Weather not playing ball for most of us to see it here anyway. Forecast clear patch arriving behind schedule near dawn as opposed to midnight like the weather sites were forecasting earlier.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,456 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent


    Nope, it's not going. Tomorrow maybe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,122 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    NASA TV says its scrubbed:

    http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html

    Tomorrow, damn it, had clear skies in Galway aswell, doh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,882 ✭✭✭Doc Farrell


    saw the iss for 10 seconds. very cloudy in dublin. very cool though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,962 ✭✭✭jumpguy


    Yerra feck. Reasonable skies here, enough to see the ISS anyway. :(
    With the launch so early in the evening tomorrow (6.15pm) will it be visible?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    Hi Guys, I'm in Dungarvan with clear skies. At about 12:04 I saw a bright "star" moving quickly across the sky - brighter than a normal star and moving quite quickly - lasted about 3 minutes - was this the ISS or am I a fool watching a plane (but it seemed too high for a plane!!)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,962 ✭✭✭jumpguy


    Hi Guys, I'm in Dungarvan with clear skies. At about 12:04 I saw a bright "star" moving quickly across the sky - brighter than a normal star and moving quite quickly - lasted about 3 minutes - was this the ISS or am I a fool watching a plane (but it seemed too high for a plane!!)
    Probably, the ISS was heading west to east (from where the sun sets to the sun rises) and was very bright, so if what you saw was heading in that direction then it was the ISS. If it was a plane the lights would be flashing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭skelliser


    ya that was it
    i saw the progress re-supply ship as well, just ahead of it but alot dimmer


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,804 ✭✭✭larchielads


    breaking news on sky space shuttle launch postponed due to bad weather no news as to when its reschudled to launch yet


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,576 ✭✭✭lord lucan


    jumpguy wrote: »
    Yerra feck. Reasonable skies here, enough to see the ISS anyway. :(
    With the launch so early in the evening tomorrow (6.15pm) will it be visible?

    Rescheduled to 23.51 irish time tomorrow,should be still visible weather permitting.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    jumpguy wrote: »
    Probably, the ISS was heading west to east (from where the sun sets to the sun rises) and was very bright, so if what you saw was heading in that direction then it was the ISS. If it was a plane the lights would be flashing.


    Yep, it was it so. Completely clear sky. Extremely bright from west to east. I was surprised at how clear it was.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55 ✭✭Denethor


    skelliser wrote: »
    ya that was it
    i saw the progress re-supply ship as well, just ahead of it but alot dimmer

    So that's what the light ahead of the ISS was. Never seen anything like it before, ISS was really bright tonight almost directly overhead here in Kerry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,962 ✭✭✭jumpguy


    Funny to think so many people around the country are looking at the exact same satellite passing as you are when you're watching it. :)

    Where exactly in the sky will I see the shuttle btw? Just keep looking west?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 127 ✭✭just pete


    Saw the iss too, Nice and bright over the midlands ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 138 ✭✭bush Baby


    http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/space/07/12/space.shuttle.endeavour/index.html#cnnSTCVideo

    Archive video of Lightning hitting the shuttle launch pad


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,483 ✭✭✭Ostrom


    Is that a recently released module or one about to be picked up?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 546 ✭✭✭quietobserver


    its been postponed until later on monday cause of lightning strikes, just heard it on the rte1 news there


  • Posts: 4,630 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I saw the ISS alright, very bright. The sky stayed clear just long enough. It looked pretty good through binoculars, but I didn't have time to set up a telescope. I saw the re-supply ship as well.

    Fingers crossed that the sky is clear tomorrow night.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,281 ✭✭✭Ricky91t


    Denethor wrote: »
    So that's what the light ahead of the ISS was. Never seen anything like it before, ISS was really bright tonight almost directly overhead here in Kerry.

    How did you manage to see it??
    I'm in Kerry and i was under loads of cloud!!
    :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 127 ✭✭just pete


    just pete wrote: »
    Saw the iss too, Nice and bright over the midlands ;)



    And again at 01.39 but not as bright


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,840 ✭✭✭Calibos


    efla wrote: »
    Is that a recently released module or one about to be picked up?

    As far as I know its a Progress re-supply Vehicle alright but not the one you think it was. It was the last one. ie. A progress arrives and they take the supplies out. They then start filling it with rubbish over the following weeks. When the next Progress re-supply Vehicle is due, they jettison the last progress thats now filled with rubbish. They launch it ahead of the ISS so as not to risk collision with the new one coming up and on a trajectory that will de-orbit it and cause it to burn up in the atmosphere.

    So the Progress you saw ahead of the ISS is the Previous rubbish filled one. You should have waited a minute or two and you would have seen the new one on its way to the ISS coming from behind. ie At the moment its behind by about 2 minutes, so just when the ISS disappears in the east, one would see the new Progress in the west. Over the next few nights, you'd see the new progress catching up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,483 ✭✭✭Ostrom


    Calibos wrote: »
    As far as I know its a Progress re-supply Vehicle alright but not the one you think it was. It was the last one. ie. A progress arrives and they take the supplies out. They then start filling it with rubbish over the following weeks. When the next Progress re-supply Vehicle is due, they jettison the last progress thats now filled with rubbish. They launch it ahead of the ISS so as not to risk collision with the new one coming up and on a trajectory that will de-orbit it and cause it to burn up in the atmosphere.

    So the Progress you saw ahead of the ISS is the Previous rubbish filled one. You should have waited a minute or two and you would have seen the new one on its way to the ISS coming from behind. ie At the moment its behind by about 2 minutes, so just when the ISS disappears in the east, one would see the new Progress in the west. Over the next few nights, you'd see the new progress catching up.

    I see... Are those recovered on the ground or left to burn?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 3,645 Mod ✭✭✭✭Beeker


    efla wrote: »
    I see... Are those recovered on the ground or left to burn?
    Burn!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,840 ✭✭✭Calibos


    Beeker wrote: »
    Burn!

    No they re-cycle. The normal rubbish goes in the Black Progress, the plastics and cardboard in the Green Progress and the leftovers and human waste in the Brown Progress.

    :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,483 ✭✭✭Ostrom


    Calibos wrote: »
    No they re-cycle. The normal rubbish goes in the Black Progress, the plastics and cardboard in the Green Progress and the leftovers and human waste in the Brown Progress.

    :D

    Now you're just making fun aren't you.... :)


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