How Unbelievably Judgemental!

LegacyUser · 03-08-2009 07:07PM #1

Just want people's opinions on this one. My parents are to quote "disappointed" with me for hanging around with the people I hang around with.

Firstly, "these people" are from the likes of "rough areas", while I'm from what most people would regard as a "posh area".

Secondly, my parents haven't met even half my mates.

I'm not getting on with them at all cuz they're treating me like dirt just cuz of who I hang around with. They even give me a slagging if I say "mates" rather than "friends". Tbh I'm getting really f*cked off with this attitude that "I'm too good to be hanging around with these people". They're telling me it's the norm etc that posh people tend to hang with posh, while "knackers" keep with knackers. They're just so judgemental it's unreal and it's having an awful effect on my life cuz i think it's so obvious that they're completely wrong in their mindset and that they're just stuck up been honest and it's causing me to turn a bit rebelious cuz i'm just so bitter that i'm been treated as though i'm a scumbeag when in fact i'm a very mannerly, friendly, down to earth girl. I'm the complete opposite of judgemental (which is where i differ from my parents) and tbh I may be a little naive as in I'd walk through Finglas at any hour of the night cuz i don't feel i should have to feel afraid yano?

I'm 19 btw. Can people tell me am I right in my views or are my parents? Even though i already know the answer I'd like to be reassured. Just cuz my mates are all from "bad areas" doesn't make them scumbags, so why should i be treated like one at home?

gubby · 03-08-2009 07:20PM

Oh dear, firstly I thought you were a fella, and then I thought you were 12
Get a grip girl and realize how much your parents love you and only want to keep you safe. bottom line.

LegacyUser · 03-08-2009 07:28PM

gubby wrote: »

Oh dear, firstly I thought you were a fella, and then I thought you were 12
Get a grip girl and realize how much your parents love you and only want to keep you safe. bottom line.

That's a bit unfair to say considering my friends are not knackers and I am been told at 19 years of age to stop going out with them because "they're not from good backgrounds".

Gman1 · 03-08-2009 07:30PM

Do your mates rob and attack people? If not then you dont hang around with scumbags. Nice people come from everywhere, including bad areas. Your parents havnt got a clue tbh. They are stuck up, but just ignore theyre attitude. Let them be dissapointed, one day they will need the help of a person from a bad area. Then they will change thier mind.

Sinall · 03-08-2009 07:39PM

My grandfather used to have the same attitude with my mother and then my mother had the same attitude with us growing up!

You might not like their attitudes but they are coming from a place of concern. Give them the opportunity to see that your friends are good people. Don't go over the top and start shouting/calling them snobs - this will just add fuel to the fire and your friends will probably get blamed for your attitude!

LegacyUser · 03-08-2009 07:42PM

Gman1 wrote: »

Do your mates rob and attack people? If not then you dont hang around with scumbags. Nice people come from everywhere, including bad areas. Your parents havnt got a clue tbh. They are stuck up, but just ignore theyre attitude. Let them be dissapointed, one day they will need the help of a person from a bad area. Then they will change thier mind.

Thanks, cuz to be fair to the previous poster of course I know they love me and they'll always be concerned for me whatever age I am but the way they're treating me is ridiculous. When I come home from a night out or the previous morning they completely ignore me and turn their nose up at me as though "where were you" and no matter if i lie or tell the truth it makes no difference cuz either way i'm wrong to be in that area or with those people. Like if only they knew, my boyfriend is five years older than me and lives in Finglas. If I was to introduce him to them he'd be told never to come back. It's so hurtful cuz I'm living a life they're totally oblivious to! And it really hurts me to think that they're disappointed in me yano

Gman1 · 03-08-2009 07:52PM

Well ye I did read the previous posts aswell. They are only looking out for you, and dont want to see anything bad happen. Media gives those areas bad names, and unfortunatly your parents believe that. I have learned that even nice areas are the worst places to be in, because the scumbags come to those areas to rob and attack people. They wouldnt do it in their own area or another rough area. Anyway all you can do really is tell them that these people are your friends, and that they are good people and nothing will change your mind.

NickNolte · 03-08-2009 09:38PM

You're an adult. You choose your own friends. If your parents continue to bait and harrass you, explain to them that they are being childish, snobby and bigoted and that you insist that they never bring it up again. Failing that, leave home at the closest possible opportunity. I'm sorry to say it but your parents don't sound like very nice people.

tbh · 04-08-2009 11:07AM

I've a five year old nephew. Bear with me here. At his age, he doesn't know a hell of a lot about the world. So, for example, when he thinks it's a good idea to put lucozade sport in the petrol tank of his dads car, and I stop him, he thinks I'm a dick for spoiling his fun.

Your parents are the same. They have experience of a certain type and class of person, and they've seen that, generally, the type of person you are hanging around with either cause or end up in trouble, and they think that if you hang around with them, you'll be guilty by association.

I'm not saying they are right or wrong, I'm just saying that they do genuinely have your best interests at heart. To them, you are still a child, and they think that you maybe dont have the skills needed to be a good judge of character.

now, what can you do?

What I suggest is that you sit down with your parents and have an adult discussion. You tell your parents that you are happy that they are looking out for you, but you think that maybe this time, they might not have the whole story. Tell them why your friends are important to you, tell them what kind of people your friends are, and ask your parents to at least give them a chance.

Ask them what specifically they are worried about, and if they say stuff like "drugs, drinking" etc, tell them that that could be an issue with any gang of friends. Tell them they brought you up better than to judge a book by it's cover and ask them to do the same for you.

In summary, acknowledge what they are worried about, because it is a genuine worry. Be mature in this - don't start huffing and puffing and saying "it's not FAIR!!!" because that will just demonstrate to them that they are right, you know? Engage them properly and not only will you probably get less hassle, but they may well trust you more as well.

partyguinness · 04-08-2009 11:11AM

Dont worry about it. They are your friends thats all that matters.

Dont be so bothered about what your parents think..you are 19.

They are just worried that you might be led astray if you are outside their comfort zone. Thats what parents do. Just ignore it.

seahorse · 04-08-2009 11:47AM

Unless your friends are taking/selling narcotics or robbing/attacking people, your parents are behaving like a pair of misinformed snobs and you need to ignore them.

LegacyUser · 04-08-2009 12:12PM

"You are Who You're Friends Are"

constantly rang in my ears as a teen/early 20s. Hindsight is 20/20 and I can now relate to my parents concerns. It is early days yet, you are only starting out in adulthood. Everyone proves their worth both in work/study and achieving goals therefore, I hope, your friends will be able to do all this and achieve their ambitions regardless of their upbringing. I won't bore you with my experiences suffice it is to say give your parents the benefit of the doubt.

LegacyUser · 04-08-2009 12:17PM

Fist off, anyone telling you to ignore your parents is an idiot and most likely hasn't got a good relationship with theirs. Do not ignore them.

I fall on the talk-to-your-parents-in-a-mature-manner side of the fence. Do not lose your cool. No one ever wants to reach a compromise or listen to someone who is huffing and puffing and rolling their eyes. Give your folks some respect. Talk to them like you would to your friends. It's not a one way street. No relationship is...

philologos · 04-08-2009 12:48PM

Unregistered wrote: »

They're just so judgemental it's unreal and it's having an awful effect on my life cuz i think it's so obvious that they're completely wrong in their mindset and that they're just stuck up been honest and it's causing me to turn a bit rebelious cuz i'm just so bitter that i'm been treated as though i'm a scumbeag when in fact i'm a very mannerly, friendly, down to earth girl.

OP: No offence intended, if you are becoming "a bit rebellious" that is up to you. It has nothing to do with your parents. You are responsible for your own actions.

I think your parents are wrong, but your being rebellious is your making, not theirs.

WindSock · 04-08-2009 01:00PM

I am generally a good judge of character, but any friends my folks have ever disapproved of in the past I can say that those people are now no longer friends for whatever reasons.

Take tbhs stellar advice and show maturity, discuss your parents concerns and don't be acting like a teenager about it.

But remember...Katie French took drugs too, and she was hardly working class...(Thats what I would say, but I'm a big child)

gubby · 04-08-2009 01:18PM

I too agree that you should not ignore your parents. that is just an immature attude. like other posters said, sit down and address their concerns and also tell them about your friends. Have you introduced your friends to your parents? have they been to your house?
best of luck

NickNolte · 04-08-2009 06:02PM

Eh, no. Sorry. I'm taking the OP at face value here - i.e. that her friends from "the wrong side of the tracks" are actually good people and that her parents are judging them based on where they're from. Now that may not be the case; we may not be getting the full story. However, assuming that what the OP is saying it true then yes, she needs to ignore them and make her own decisions as an adult.

While I'm sure most parents have their kids best interests at heart, I'm also quite sure (in fact I know) that many parents out there aresnobby and define themselves by perceived social class.

Unregistered wrote: »

Fist off, anyone telling you to ignore your parents is an idiot and most likely hasn't got a good relationship with theirs.

What's the logic behind that baseless assertion? Her parents are being incredibly childish and baiting her from what I can gather. I think not getting upset by it or allowing yourself to be lowered to their level by ignoring them is a perfectly fine thing to do. I have a good relationship with my parents... but they'd never do anything like that.

LegacyUser · 04-08-2009 06:23PM

At 19 you are young, imature and naive - your parents are looking out for your own interest. They brought you into the world and want you to have the best of everything possible usually putting u before their own needs no doubt. Maybe when u have children yourself you will realise what you parents mean when they jude your friends.

In a year from now I bet these friends and boyfriend (5 years older- he should grow up rather than be with a child like you) will long be history ....but your parents will always be your parents! And your parents will always be there for u. Think about it and gain some respect for them

PhysiologyRocks · 04-08-2009 07:15PM

I don't know who's right, because I don't know you, your friends or your parents. Are they judging your friends on anything other than where they're from? If not, then yes, it's probably slightly unfair.
I understand that they're concerned and they care, especially if your boyfriend is so much older. Again, as I know neither of you, I don't know whether or not they're right to interfere. Some 19-year-olds are compatible with some 24-year-olds, most are not.

That said, it's really not safe to walk alone at night in most areas. If they are worried about you doing this, then they are completely justified.

I also understand that it must be very frustrating for you.

Perhaps if you speak to them calmly and rationally. Avoid words and phrases that you know annoy them, for example, call your friends your friends, etc.

I hope you come to some sort of understanding.

NickNolte · 04-08-2009 07:20PM

Unregistered wrote: »

At 19 you are young, imature and naive - your parents are looking out for your own interest. They brought you into the world and want you to have the best of everything possible usually putting u before their own needs no doubt. Maybe when u have children yourself you will realise what you parents mean when they jude your friends.

In a year from now I bet these friends and boyfriend (5 years older- he should grow up rather than be with a child like you) will long be history ....but your parents will always be your parents! And your parents will always be there for u. Think about it and gain some respect for them

Yes. So her parents are goading, abusing and judging her friends because of where they're from because... they love her. Rrrrright.

Eve_Dublin · 04-08-2009 08:02PM

NickNolte wrote: »

You're an adult. You choose your own friends. If your parents continue to bait and harrass you, explain to them that they are being childish, snobby and bigoted and that you insist that they never bring it up again. Failing that, leave home at the closest possible opportunity. I'm sorry to say it but your parents don't sound like very nice people.

While I wouldn't go as far as saying your parents are not very nice people, I would agree that they are blatant snobs and you should ignore their opinions and carry on hanging around with who you like. You're 19 years old and an adult.

This attitude that adults/parents are and everything they say is infallible is something I believed when I was 5 until I got older and realised that they're only human themselves are very capable of being as selfish, bigoted and snobby as anyone else.

My background is not "posh" but I am from a middle class background and both my parents grew up in working class inner city areas. My parents sent me to one of the two primary schools in my town and they chose the one slap bang in the middle of a council estate who's student body was made up of kids from poorer areas than myself. When I brought home friends from these areas, they would tell me they weren't good enough for me etc. I'm not sure who they expected me to befriend but I was only a kid but already they were teaching me that I was better than others JUST because my parents had more money than theirs. What kind of lesson is this to teach your children of ANY age?? Even then I knew what they were saying was morally wrong. The fact that they were both from poor backgrounds made it all the more baffling...if they and their siblings turned out all right, then why wouldn't these kids?

You're parents are not looking out for your best interests, they're letting their own deep-seated bigotry get in the way of their judgment and are trying to raise a child whose views of social class will only compound to the existing social divisions we have in our society.

This is the part of growing I found difficult: realising my parents are far from perfect.

Those friends from primary school are still some of my best friends today.

Handsome Bob · 04-08-2009 08:03PM

Are your friends actual scumbags? Or are your parents only indulging themselves in their own prejudices? I've been on the other side OP, my friends mother was always suspicious of me as she thought I looked a bit rough. Why did she think that? Because I dared to go bald at the age of 17 and instead of having some dumb combover I shaved my head completely. He never stuck up for me to his mother. My friend would tell me not to knock at his door and to just ring him when I was outside.

What I'm saying OP is that nothing hurts more than knowing your friend is too ashamed of you to stand up for you. Tell your parents in no uncertain terms that the hostility they have towards your friends is without foundation and in this day and age just embarassing. But do it calmly, don't give them the satisfaction of screaming your head off.

Miss Fluff · 04-08-2009 08:23PM

Unregistered wrote: »

I'm the complete opposite of judgemental (which is where i differ from my parents) and tbh I may be a little naive as in I'd walk through Finglas at any hour of the night cuz i don't feel i should have to feel afraid yano?

Are you trying to prove a point here or what?

That every single inhabitant of Finglas (for sake of example before the PC brigade jump down my throat) is a good, God-fearing law-abiding citizen goddamit and none of them will get me because they are all DECENT people(imagine OP shakes fist).

I think that yes there MAY be an element of good old-fashioned snobbery on your parents part but by the same token I do think that they are trying to protect you as well. I was pretty wayward at 19 - your parents are only trying to protect you and all I'd urge is that you keep as close to the truth as possible and AVOID taking unnecessary risks just to prove how mature and street-wise you are:rolleyes:

I have a suggestion for you m'dear. Instead of the lies and covering up why don't you bring some of your friends home for supper and your boyfriend around for Sunday lunch to meet your parents. If they are truly good people who are your friends/care about you and have your best interests at heart, then your parents will recognise that and being born in the stable at Bethlehem or a crack-den in Ballymun won't make a blind bit of difference if your parents think they are ok. Get me?

Bottle_of_Smoke · 05-08-2009 01:16AM

Sounds like your parents are being a bit OTT but its really difficult to take you seriously when you claim to walk through finglas as a 19 year old girl at any hour of the night. Don't do that. A 19 year old girl shouldn't be walking alone in any area at night, thats just stupidity.

Wagon · 05-08-2009 08:34AM

You're parents are being idiots. Go on lads, slate me for that one. Just because they're your parents doesn't mean they're infallable. They are human and just as prone to making mistakes and have bad attitudes as everyone else.

Unregistered wrote: »

"I'm too good to be hanging around with these people".

They don't know these people.

They're telling me it's the norm etc that posh people tend to hang with posh, while "knackers" keep with knackers.

That's judgemental horse****. I don't care if parents said that but its such a crappy attitude. If people followed that logic then id have only half the friends i would. You know your mates and hopefully you are a good judge of character.

tbh · 05-08-2009 08:57AM

the reality of the situation wagon is that, right or wrong, the OP's parents call the shots. If the OP digs his heels in over this one, they will too.

All that will do is generate a load of stress on everybody involved, when there's no need for it. A nice cup of tea and a friendly chat are all that are needed here, imo.

Handsome Bob · 05-08-2009 09:40AM

tbh wrote: »

the reality of the situation wagon is that, right or wrong, the OP's parents call the shots. If the OP digs his heels in over this one, they will too.

All that will do is generate a load of stress on everybody involved, when there's no need for it. A nice cup of tea and a friendly chat are all that are needed here, imo.

Her parents sound pretty unreasonable to me, do you think a friendly chat is going to make a world of difference to them? It sounds like they have already made their mind up about their daughter's friends and nothing will change that.

pikachucheeks · 05-08-2009 09:48AM

Unregistered wrote: »

...My parents are to quote "disappointed" with me for hanging around with the people I hang around with... "these people" are from the likes of "rough areas", while I'm from what most people would regard as a "posh area".

...They're just so judgemental it's unreal and it's having an awful effect on my life cuz i think it's so obvious that they're completely wrong in their mindset and that they're just stuck up been honest and it's causing me to turn a bit rebelious cuz i'm just so bitter that i'm been treated as though i'm a scumbeag when in fact i'm a very mannerly, friendly, down to earth girl...

I'm 19 btw. Can people tell me am I right in my views or are my parents? Even though i already know the answer I'd like to be reassured. Just cuz my mates are all from "bad areas" doesn't make them scumbags, so why should i be treated like one at home?

If I were you, I'd sit down and talk to your parents about why they have an issue with your friends, in particular, friends they haven't met. Parents usually have a substancial reason for not liking their children's friends and will have their best interests at heart. Maybe there's a deeper reason for their concerns?

Hear them out, then have your say. Explain to them how you feel. Just because a friend of yours lives in a "bad" area, doesn't mean they are a bad person, or conform to any anti-social behaviour that might be associated with the place they're from.

If your parents can't accept this, then yes, they are "stuck up" and you'll need to try and deal with this. Perhaps you introducing your parents to some friends would help? This way, they'll get to know them for WHO they are, as opposed to where they come from.

tbh · 05-08-2009 09:52AM

LZ5by5 wrote: »

Her parents sound pretty unreasonable to me, do you think a friendly chat is going to make a world of difference to them? It sounds like they have already made their mind up about their daughter's friends and nothing will change that.

I do, actually. They are worried about the unknown. Make the unknown known, and most of your problems disappear. Unless of course his parents are right.

Handsome Bob · 05-08-2009 10:00AM

tbh wrote: »

I do, actually. They are worried about the unknown. Make the unknown known, and most of your problems disappear. Unless of course his parents are right.

It's too easy. I'm sure the OP has already stressed plenty of times that her mates aren't scumbags only for it to fall on deaf ears. Her parents are not going to drop god only knows how many years of prejudice just because their daughter says so.

I've seen no suggestion from the OP that her parents are right.

tbh · 05-08-2009 10:04AM

LZ5by5 wrote: »

It's too easy. I'm sure the OP has already stressed plenty of times that her mates aren't scumbags only for it to fall on deaf ears. Her parents are not going to drop god only knows how many years of prejudice just because their daughter says so.

I've seen no suggestion from the OP that her parents are right.

you're making a lot of assumptions about the parents based on one side of the story there Lz5by5

Handsome Bob · 05-08-2009 10:18AM

tbh wrote: »

you're making a lot of assumptions about the parents based on one side of the story there Lz5by5

You're right tbh, I am only basing my opinions on one side of the story. Then again, isn't that what we always do in Personal Issues? Just look at some of the quotes I have selected here;

Unregistered wrote: »

Firstly, "these people" are from the likes of "rough areas", while I'm from what most people would regard as a "posh area".

Sounds to me like they only want their daughter hanging around with "her own kind". It doesn't matter if they are horrible people because posh people are meant to hang around with posh people.

Secondly, my parents haven't met even half my mates.

They haven't met half of her mates yet they have all been dismissed categorically as knackers.

They even give me a slagging if I say "mates" rather than "friends".

Again, that's an awfully snobbish attitude.

Tbh I'm getting really f*cked off with this attitude that "I'm too good to be hanging around with these people". They're telling me it's the norm etc that posh people tend to hang with posh, while "knackers" keep with knackers.

I've basically reading that as "lets keep society segregated!"

tbh · 05-08-2009 10:38AM

I'm not saying that the parents are right. The parents have their opinions because they have their opinions, whether those opinions are right or wrong.

The OP is faced with a situation where they need to change their parents minds.

I'm just saying, or offering, that the best way to change their minds is to show their parents that they are capable of having a mature, reasoned conversation with them. It's not even about the content of the conversation, it's more a demonstration of reason. It shows that the OP can make sensible decisions, which, in fairness, can be hard for a parent who feels like it was only five minutes ago where the OP was two years old and trying to drink bleach, to accept.

Essentially, the purpose of the conversation is to demonstrate to the parents that the OP isn't easily led, and knows right from wrong.

You may think the parents are just dicks and incapable of change - and who knows - you may be right, but that doesn't really help the OP on a practical level, you know?

starflake · 05-08-2009 11:05AM

I am 23 now and A couple of years ago I went through the same thing. I was spending alot of time with people from an area that would be seen as a ''rough'' area. My parents are both in psychiatry and they FREAKED I couldnt believe how snobby and unreasonable they were being. There was countless rows tears shouting and tantrums. I look back on that now, as I do on everything my parents have adviced me on and I know that they were right. Now, your friends may not be drugdealers or gang leaders. Your parents may very well be unreasonable, I thought they same about my parents at the time. But my parents know me better than I know myself and they knew that I was a bit unstable at 19, It's a difficult time! Just remember that your parents love you 100% and despite what you think they know you more than anyone. They want you to be save and happy at the end of the day. Sit with them and allow them to air any issues they have and allow them to meet your friends and boyfriend, if it's a disaster then have a long think because your parents are your family. Imagine ten years down the line if you have kids. Imagine bringing them home to your family home. Who will be with you> The same guy you're with now? Your mates? Your parents will always be your parents your mother gave birth to you and held you, fed you, looked after you when you fell and cut your knees... Try and look at it from their perspective and remember they love you and life gives you experience to see things that you may not see at 19.

Fiend-Foe · 06-08-2009 07:29PM

You're 19, it doesn't matter what your parents think of your friends, as long as you're respectful to them and respect their home as long as you live there.

What do you mean by "it's causing me to turn a bit rebelious"? Rebelious how? You are an adult, but it doesn't really sound like it from your post. Adults don't "rebel" against their parents.

Your parents won't always approve of everything you do and all of the choices you make in life. Thats just the way it is.

And by the way, whats a yano?

Eve_Dublin · 06-08-2009 09:31PM

tbh wrote: »

I'm not saying that the parents are right. The parents have their opinions because they have their opinions, whether those opinions are right or wrong.

The OP is faced with a situation where they need to change their parents minds.

I'm just saying, or offering, that the best way to change their minds is to show their parents that they are capable of having a mature, reasoned conversation with them. It's not even about the content of the conversation, it's more a demonstration of reason. It shows that the OP can make sensible decisions, which, in fairness, can be hard for a parent who feels like it was only five minutes ago where the OP was two years old and trying to drink bleach, to accept.

Essentially, the purpose of the conversation is to demonstrate to the parents that the OP isn't easily led, and knows right from wrong.

You may think the parents are just dicks and incapable of change - and who knows - you may be right, but that doesn't really help the OP on a practical level, you know?

I would agree with you here TBH....at the end of the day, they are the OP's parents and I believe this is not worth falling out over. Too much unnecessary stress for everyone. Not sure if you read my post about my own parent's snobbish attitudes with regards to my friends growing up. My dad hasn't changed one bit since then...in fact I'd say he's more of a snob than ever was as he gets older (even though all of his siblings live in working class areas of Dublin...really bizarre...)so we've learned over time not to discuss anything that might aggravate the peace and neither of us gets upset as a result. I've tried to reason with him that there are people out there who would consider himself to be below them purely because of his accent (which he hides well) but he doesn't get it. He trusts me, trusts that I'm a good judge of character, I've never been in any major trouble and have never got mixed up with anyone who's caused me any trouble so he's happy.

I suppose you have to prove you're trustworthy as well, OP if you're living under their roof and this rebellious attitude will do your case no favours. You don't want to alienate your parents (they'll come in handy down the line) but perhaps accept that your parents are far from perfect. I know I was very disappointed in my dad when I discovered what a snob he was...he kind of fell of the pedestal I'd put him on as a child and it seemed to contradict everything I'd been taught about respect for others and treating everyone equally but I'm far from perfect myself and have my own prejudices that I wouldn't so freely admit.

Nitxteha · 07-08-2009 11:35AM

Listen to your parents, they only want the best for you.

People from different backgrouds have different habits (let's put it this way..). Your parents only want the best for you and don't want you to mix with people that could get you in trouble.

I don't think your parents told you: "we are posh and you can only meet with posh people, my dear". Most probably they have told you not to mix with the "wrong" people (no matter if they are rich or poor because you find those everywhere.). I'm sure they have seen some "red lights" in your friends and they are only worrying about you.

RossFixxxed · 07-08-2009 12:55PM

I hate to admit it, but everyone my parents disliked / didn't trust I no longer associate with. Not because of my parents though, because of the people themselves.

LegacyUser · 08-08-2009 07:50PM

Unregistered wrote: »

tbh I may be a little naive as in I'd walk through Finglas at any hour of the night cuz i don't feel i should have to feel afraid yano?

OP: Grow up! You've just summed up your immaturity and naivety. No wonder you parents worry about you.

Any other poster who comments on how ridiculous and judgmental OP's parents are should now better considering we only have one side to this story and OP hasn't exactly enlightened on her friends.

How Unbelievably Judgemental!

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