Alu clad replacement windows Suppliers

petals01 · 19-07-2009 04:37PM #1

We have received the following quotes from these suppliers for replacement alu clad windows and doors:
Marvin 27k
Nordan 14.4k
Nordic 16.5k
Rationel 13.9k
Carlson 26.1k

I would be very grateful if anyone with experience of these suppliers has any comments as to quality/durability/service of the above suppliers. PMs very welcome. Sorry if I have inadvertently created a new thread where I shouldn't. First-time poster, etc.
Thanks

Wonky Knees · 22-07-2009 09:56PM

I've PM's you my experience with some on the list. Surprised you don't have quote from True Windows or EcoGlaze to name two other firms in this space.

feelinfoul · 23-07-2009 12:20AM

fatima,
could you also pm me your experience with all these,
regards,T.

gooner99 · 23-07-2009 02:35PM

can you also pm me your experience.

Duncandonuts · 23-07-2009 05:47PM

Fatima, could you pm me your experience with some of the suppliers,
Thanks.

Lightning McQue · 24-07-2009 10:05AM

Fatima

could you pm that as well

thanks

Lightning

A country home · 26-07-2009 08:08PM

i am really looking at these windows big time. .
but, there is a real difference between timber with alu cladded on to the timber windows and those widows with timber on the inside and only alu with foam insulation on the outside, , , you can get these also with just alu on out side. .

apart from mar. I have wiped out the rest as wood is exposed, not fully, or not very visable, but its exposed in my eyes. . .

Wonky Knees · 27-07-2009 12:11PM

PMs sent to all.

JuniorB · 27-07-2009 02:39PM

Fatima

Any chance you could PM me too?
About to decide on supplier and 4 of the above are on my list !!
Cheers

doctorjohn · 30-07-2009 09:47PM

Fatima, would you mind PM me with your experiences to date with these suppliers. I am in same situation as junior B

Chief99 · 03-08-2009 05:26PM

Hi Fatima, could you please PM me your experiences with these suppliers. I'm hoping to get planning permission granted in the next month or so

Builderfromhell · 03-08-2009 06:02PM

Fatima, you're very popular:D

jfromk · 05-08-2009 12:09PM

can you also PM me please ...

poochie2009 · 05-08-2009 03:18PM

maybe you could pm me as well..you are very popular:D

Wonky Knees · 05-08-2009 09:46PM

PMs sent. I'm finalising my windows next week. It will be interesting to see which of the three suppliers on my shortlist will cut their price the most!

Nick Elsulphide · 05-08-2009 09:57PM

fatimamansions wrote: »

I've PM's you my experience with some on the list. Surprised you don't have quote from True Windows or EcoGlaze to name two other firms in this space.

I'm surprised you haven't been banned for naming these companies. I was singled out for a 2 week ban for naming one company!

Obviously there are differences with all these products - and the range that each company carries. It would be interesting to discuss the differences for the benefit of consumers given the obvious clamour for information but its rather difficult with the threat of a yellow cards being arbitrarily administered.

Wonky Knees · 05-08-2009 10:37PM

Nick Elsulphide wrote: »

I'm surprised you haven't been banned for naming these companies. I was singled out for a 2 week ban for naming one company!

Obviously there are differences with all these products - and the range that each company carries. It would be interesting to discuss the differences for the benefit of consumers given the obvious clamour for information but its rather difficult with the threat of a yellow cards being arbitrarily administered.

Maybe a mod could elaborate.

I'm actually very surprised with the number of requests for information on my experience with suppliers. As you know there are a number of other sites that allow consumers to rate suppliers.

In this case I was careful not to mention just one supplier. Moreover, my experience/comments are not posted. My original reply simply stated that I was surprised a number of suppliers were not originally contacted. In the thread on 'reference material you will also find posts that reference even more suppliers.

The advantage for the likes of me is that while in the process of searching for a particular supplier, the posts on boards bring to my attention the existence of other suppliers which I (or anyone) can then do a further search. For example, I am close to ordering bathroom fittings and have spent a number of days looking and selecting material from megabad in Germany. I came across another thread which mentions a company in England. I've just finished looking at what they have to offer and I may now source in England.

muffler · 05-08-2009 11:22PM

Nick Elsulphide wrote: »

I'm surprised you haven't been banned for naming these companies. I was singled out for a 2 week ban for naming one company!

Just to clarify this point. The forum charter clearly states the following

Any threads naming specific companies/traders will be deleted. Exceptions to this will be at the moderators' discretion.

"Our discretion" is the main point here but I should elaborate a little. I dont see any great problem (but see below) with any of the major suppliers etc being named as they dont really need the free plugs. Its the shills who post here that trouble me most, First post and they state something like "I am thinking of getting my windows/roof tiles/solar panels/frilly knickers or whatever from a company called kissmearse Ltd who give me a great price and was wondering if anyone had any dealings with them" That type of thing is not acceptable and even if a major company is named by a new user here we will moderate the post in some way or other.

The other exception is where we think that the general community here will benefit from information being provided in a particular thread or post. Its a judgement call on our part and we have to decide if the offending post was intended to be of assistance to everyone here or merely a deliberate ploy to promote some business or other. Again we give a wide berth to the established users here as we know we can trust them and they wouldnt dream of pimping anyone or any business. Just to point out that this thread started with quite a few firms being named so the OP demonstrated that he was not out to pimp or promote a single business and while we are not just over the moon about it we feel that the thread will help others and therefore is acceptable.

This forum is all about sharing information and offering advice and help. It is not for individuals or businesses to gain from their involvement here. At times it may appear that there are inconsistencies but there's not really. Its our call at the end of the day and any call that we make is done so for the benefit of this forum.

In summary we dont have any problems with the large established firms/businesses being named especially by the regulars but we wont be as liberal when we see small private businesses being named or any business being named by anyone who is relatively new to the forum.

Now I dont want a discussion on this or any replies to this post as it will only drag the thread off topic. If any of you ever have any queries or need advice as to what is and is not acceptable then feel free to PM any of the mods in advance.

danoriordan1402 · 06-08-2009 04:26PM

We went with Marvin for our new build 22K in total, we felt the quality and installation details were the best even though they were 6k dearer then the next quote and took about 14 weeks to get here from the states. Looking back now im not sure I would spend that money again on windows/doors. Make sure your installers are top notch as well

Nick Elsulphide · 06-08-2009 08:24PM

fatimamansions wrote: »

Maybe a mod could elaborate.

I'm actually very surprised with the number of requests for information on my experience with suppliers. As you know there are a number of other sites that allow consumers to rate suppliers.

In this case I was careful not to mention just one supplier. Moreover, my experience/comments are not posted. My original reply simply stated that I was surprised a number of suppliers were not originally contacted. In the thread on 'reference material you will also find posts that reference even more suppliers.

Given the ex cathedra clarification and a ...err amber light to discuss the difference in window product would you (and other posters on this thread) mind explaining what your main criteria were when making a choice; thermal performance, price, aesthetics, warranties, product choice ?

I think it would be beneficial if you also the quality of pre-sale service you experienced from different suppliers you dealt with. My own feeling is that the difference in price that the op quoted is so large that I think (hope) that the suppliers mentioned were not quoting like for like products and works.

Wonky Knees · 07-08-2009 03:07PM

I was looking for a supplier that could supply new windows to the rear of the new extension and replace the sash windows at the front. So my order has two parts and I may even end up with two companies.

The first thing I did was look for reviews of the suppliers I have shortlisted.

Then for the front of the house I was looking for a supplier whose windows had a high level of sound proofing >40DB and U values around the .9 - 1.4 range.

Type of wood and jointing was very important as was issues of ventellation and fittings.

The rear was very specific. I wanted triple glaze alu-wood. The ground floor would be 30 foot wide and 3 meters high. This would be broken into four glass sections with one section a sliding door.

All of the issues that pertained to the front were important but only one supplier can provide a window 3 meters high - most others have their max at 2.6 or so.

Another problem is that I will be ordering from the oaps which means that the lead time now becomes a factor. Some companies can do 6 weeks while others are 9.

When this is all sorted I'll specify things in more detail.

Wonky Knees · 16-09-2009 04:12PM

I ended up ordering triple glaze alu-clad for the back from ecoglaze and double glaze wood for the front of the house from Carlson.

The lead times are down from nine weeks to 6-7.

The back is all new so supply and fit is straight forward - with the exception that the austrians do all their calculations and drawings from the inside of the house outward and not the other way around.

The front is replacement. What I didn't realise is that they expect you to take out the old windows and make ready to oaps and then when they have finished the fitting you have to do the tidy up, plastering, and wood work. In my case a lot of wood work.

So I told the supplier just to supply which lowered the price by 1500 and then I told the builders they could have that 1500 for fitting the windows themselves. Builders are great- and are open to adjustments as the build progresses. I would not have been able to do a self build as originally planned - heart attack stuff, and fair play to those who can do it!

Everyone was happy until the last moment when I was told that the order would now be charged at 21% VAT. When the company fits, the VAT is 13.5. When it is just supply you incur the higher rate of VAT. Bottom line is that there was only a couple of hundred euro in the difference so I went back to the original supply and fit scenario.

petals01 · 18-09-2009 05:36PM

hello all, thanks for comments, advice and pms. We also made our decision and went for Nordic in the end. We liked their products, found them helpful and flexible, and they provided useful design solutions to us. Their price was also reasonable, and u values not out of line. Builder also familiar with them, so fingers crossed for getting the sliding door onto the site without major problems.

Freemaster · 20-09-2009 09:30AM

Try <SNIP> we have just ordered all our doors and windows from these guys. beat everybody on price aswell!!

Mod edit: No names please. Read the forum charter. muffler

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Jo124 · 06-10-2009 11:55AM

can you PM me the info on these too

Wonky Knees · 07-10-2009 02:30PM

Windows from company one (front of house) ordered on 15th of September (manufactured in Denmark) to be fitted on the 13th of October.

Windows from company two (back of house) ordered on September 7th (manufactured in Austria) to be fitted on the 12th of October.

Both companies did very well on their lead times, fitting, overall quality and any interesting observations will be posted sometime next week.

morning delight · 08-01-2010 12:28PM

fatimamansions wrote: »

Windows from company one (front of house) ordered on 15th of September (manufactured in Denmark) to be fitted on the 13th of October.

Windows from company two (back of house) ordered on September 7th (manufactured in Austria) to be fitted on the 12th of October.

Both companies did very well on their lead times, fitting, overall quality and any interesting observations will be posted sometime next week.

Hi Fatima

Firstly thanks for all the very useful information you've posted on this topic.

Now that you have the windows in are you happy with them and the companies who supplied and installed them? Any extra tips to offer?:)

Hippo · 20-01-2010 11:29AM

Fatima, any chance of forwarding that pm to me? Just about to place an order!

LowOdour · 20-01-2010 02:06PM

fatima,
could you also pm me your experiences on some of these companies too if its not much hassel

liamolaighin · 28-04-2011 10:09AM

petals01 wrote: »

We have received the following quotes from these suppliers for replacement alu clad windows and doors:
Marvin 27k
Nordan 14.4k
Nordic 16.5k
Rationel 13.9k
Carlson 26.1k

I would be very grateful if anyone with experience of these suppliers has any comments as to quality/durability/service of the above suppliers. PMs very welcome. Sorry if I have inadvertently created a new thread where I shouldn't. First-time poster, etc.
Thanks

Hi I know this is a general question but can I enquire as to the spec of window these prices refer to. I am currently pricing a self build and there is a huge difference in prices and spec of windows out there. I am looking to get the best value I can for my money and aim to achieve a combined u-value of better than 1.2. Are any of these prices indicative of aluclad nearing a passive spec?? Going with MHRV and require good airtightness and insulation levels throughout build.

Alu clad replacement windows Suppliers

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