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Reporting Dangerous driving

  • 28-08-2009 07:50PM
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,102 ✭✭✭✭


    Well, it was an interesting drive home from Dublin to Wexford this evening.

    For those of you who know the road, I usually turn off the Gorey bypass for Ballycanew. It's not the best road in the world, in particular when its wet.

    So, when I turned off the road, I notice a 96 Toyota Corrolla glued to my rear bumper. Three young, Eastern european looking guys, with a nice set of L plates up. There were a number of cars ahead of me, so the traffic was moving fairly slowly, around 60kmph.

    I was watching him fairly closely - He was hugging the white line, trying to see if he could get by me. Bare in mind, there was at least 4 cars ahead of me, so he wouldnt have really gone anywhere.

    After about 5 minutes of it, he made his move - on a solid white line, on a blind bend!:eek: I knew it was trouble, so I eased up and left a bigger gap ahead. Next thing, there's a car coming up towards us, while the Toyota is parallel with me. He swerved in, forcing me into the hedge, and causing me to brake very hard. Had I not reacted quickly, someone would have been seriously injured.

    Luckily, there's not much damage done to my car. A few scratches, and a crack in one of the light lenses.

    I was - and still am - furious, and fairly shook. I called Wexford Garda station and reported it. TBH, they didnt seem interested in it at all, took none of my details and told me I had to report it to Gorey. When I called Gorey, she told me it was Wexford's problem, but took my details and told me she'd send a car out to meet it.

    He was probably no more than 5 minutes ahead of me, but there was no sign of any Garda on the road. TBH, im a bit disappointed. I'll hold my breath, and wait to see if the Garda call me tommorow.

    Anyhow, sorry for the rant! Just wanted to get the load off my chest!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭ottostreet


    Sounds like you managed to avoid a pretty bad one, in fairness!

    I've heard only good things about Trafficwatch, rather than the garda stations..Maybe try that one, might get a better response?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,822 ✭✭✭✭EPM


    Reported some idiotic dangerous driving a few weeks ago myself. Haven't heard a word and they were completely uninterested too.

    Did you get a reg? Hound them as theres damage involved. I'd hold out to get your car sorted


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,102 ✭✭✭✭Drummerboy08


    Yeah, I got the reg, and gave it to em when I reported it. I'll be calling into the barracks in Wexford in the morning to give a statement. I'm not gonna let it slip.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 149 ✭✭AMIIAM


    Well, it was an interesting drive home from Dublin to Wexford this evening.

    For those of you who know the road, I usually turn off the Gorey bypass for Ballycanew. It's not the best road in the world, in particular when its wet.

    So, when I turned off the road, I notice a 96 Toyota Corrolla glued to my rear bumper. Three young, Eastern european looking guys, with a nice set of L plates up. There were a number of cars ahead of me, so the traffic was moving fairly slowly, around 60kmph.

    I was watching him fairly closely - He was hugging the white line, trying to see if he could get by me. Bare in mind, there was at least 4 cars ahead of me, so he wouldnt have really gone anywhere.

    After about 5 minutes of it, he made his move - on a solid white line, on a blind bend!:eek: I knew it was trouble, so I eased up and left a bigger gap ahead. Next thing, there's a car coming up towards us, while the Toyota is parallel with me. He swerved in, forcing me into the hedge, and causing me to brake very hard. Had I not reacted quickly, someone would have been seriously injured.

    Luckily, there's not much damage done to my car. A few scratches, and a crack in one of the light lenses.

    I was - and still am - furious, and fairly shook. I called Wexford Garda station and reported it. TBH, they didnt seem interested in it at all, took none of my details and told me I had to report it to Gorey. When I called Gorey, she told me it was Wexford's problem, but took my details and told me she'd send a car out to meet it.

    He was probably no more than 5 minutes ahead of me, but there was no sign of any Garda on the road. TBH, im a bit disappointed. I'll hold my breath, and wait to see if the Garda call me tommorow.

    Anyhow, sorry for the rant! Just wanted to get the load off my chest!
    Not surprised the guards showed indifference! Details of offending car is surely of utmost importance. Not the fact that they looked like "Eastern Europeans"!! What a stupid statement!! Reg of car, make of car, colour of car would have been of some help to the guards. Lots of drunken Paddies on the roads, not at all dissimmilar to "Eastern Europeans"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,102 ✭✭✭✭Drummerboy08


    AMIIAM wrote: »
    Not surprised the guards showed indifference! Details of offending car is surely of utmost importance. Not the fact that they looked like "Eastern Europeans"!! What a stupid statement!! Reg of car, make of car, colour of car would have been of some help to the guards. Lots of drunken Paddies on the roads, not at all dissimmilar to "Eastern Europeans"


    I gave them all the details.

    It was a blue Toyota Corrolla saloon, with a tow bar, L plates and a boot spoiler. I also go the reg number. What more detail do they need from me? A chassis number and the drivers name and address?

    And I dont think the eastern european comment was "stupid" either - I've had a lot more bad experiences with them, than I've had with "Irish" motorists - note Im not being racist, its just my experience on the road. There isnt a "lot of drunken paddies" on the road either.


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,708 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    AMIIAM wrote: »
    Not surprised the guards showed indifference! Details of offending car is surely of utmost importance. Not the fact that they looked like "Eastern Europeans"!! What a stupid statement!! Reg of car, make of car, colour of car would have been of some help to the guards. Lots of drunken Paddies on the roads, not at all dissimmilar to "Eastern Europeans"

    :rolleyes: the nationality of the driver may be of assistance when they meet the oncomming car, it would help identify the correct car involved.

    Drummerboy08, dont let it drop, chase the gardai until they do something. its property damage, dangerous driving and leaving the scene of an accident in my book. they shouldnt get away with it, and to think its only a week since 4 were killed in a head on collision just outside newry, you'd think peopl would have a bit of cop on.

    i would of tryed to follow them while ringing the gardai telling them you have just been involved in an accident and the other driver fled, but you are in persuit.

    keep us updated on how you get on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 582 ✭✭✭HJL


    AMIIAM wrote: »
    Not surprised the guards showed indifference! Details of offending car is surely of utmost importance. Not the fact that they looked like "Eastern Europeans"!! What a stupid statement!! Reg of car, make of car, colour of car would have been of some help to the guards. Lots of drunken Paddies on the roads, not at all dissimmilar to "Eastern Europeans"

    If somebody ran me off the road and caused damage to my car, and narrowly escaped harm to myself and/or passengers I wouldn't give a flying fu(k about sounding PC or not.

    It is what it is, yes you could be right though, they might of been Irish, we have cnuts here too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 149 ✭✭AMIIAM


    You did not state these facts in your original post. Also I reiterate there ARE a lot of drunken Irish driverson Irish roads. Just ask any guard.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,102 ✭✭✭✭Drummerboy08


    I was going to follow them, but I decided to see how bad the car was first. Didnt fancy losing a wheel a mile down the road!

    I will update once I hear more.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,102 ✭✭✭✭Drummerboy08


    AMIIAM wrote: »
    You did not state these facts in your original post. Also I reiterate there ARE a lot of drunken Irish driverson Irish roads. Just ask any guard.

    I didnt feel I needed to. I think your reading too much of the Star me oul son.


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,708 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    AMIIAM wrote: »
    You did not state these facts in your original post. Also I reiterate there ARE a lot of drunken Irish driverson Irish roads. Just ask any guard.

    ok post pc detective :p

    as stated above, i understood from the OP's original post that he gave all the details to the gardai in question when they promised to send a car out. did you just assume that he didnt give all the details?

    also as stated above, if 3 eastern eurpeons drove me off the road, then it would be 3 eastern europeans that would be going on my statement, end of. theres no need for PC when its not racial, its a statement of facts.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,102 ✭✭✭✭Drummerboy08


    Well lets put it this way - They could have passed as three of Dimitar Berbatov's brothers. I obviously cannot prove they were Eastern Europeans, but they certainly were not Irish.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,961 ✭✭✭roosterman71


    You should run the plate through mywheels.ie too. Just to see if thy are fake or anything.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,671 ✭✭✭bladebrew


    I didnt feel I needed to. I think your reading too much of the Star me oul son.

    you had a lucky one,i knew off a guy killed years ago outside balbriggan in nearly the same circumstances,guy overtook like an idiot and swerved back into him,it happened on the delvin bridge as far as i remember,

    and for the poster on about drunken paddys,as you all know i was in court last year,i was number 79 so i had to sit through 78 other cases,plenty of drink driving cases and not one of them irish,although an irish guy got a ban for racing:rolleyes:

    one drink driver managed to get his sentence delayed until november because he was returning to poland,so he could drive from june till november then fly home like nothing happened,i know the irish can do the same but i was shocked!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,102 ✭✭✭✭Drummerboy08


    You should run the plate through mywheels.ie too. Just to see if thy are fake or anything.

    I will do that, thanks. I think I can check it in work on Monday through a system connected to the VRO too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,442 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    I knew it was trouble, so I eased up and left a bigger gap ahead. Next thing, there's a car coming up towards us, while the Toyota is parallel with me. He swerved in, forcing me into the hedge, and causing me to brake very hard.

    You sensed there might be trouble, so you took pre-emptive action. The hallmark of a safe (and usually experienced) driver. Fair play to ya, you might very well have prevented a serious accident from happening!

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,102 ✭✭✭✭Drummerboy08


    unkel wrote: »
    You sensed there might be trouble, so you took pre-emptive action. The hallmark of a safe (and usually experienced) driver. Fair play to ya, you might very well have prevented a serious accident from happening!

    Maybe not an experienced driver (i've been driving for 3 years) but I would think that I'm good at reading a dodgy situation. My driving licence is my job, so if I were to lose it, or cause something to happen that meant I couldnt drive, i'd lose my job. I cant afford that right now, so I constantly watch for things on the road that could cause me to be involved in an accident.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 149 ✭✭AMIIAM


    kcier, It is obvious to me that you need to visit SPECSAVERS. Either that or you may have difficulty comprehending the meaning of a small paragraph. Nowhere in Drummers original post gives exact details of offending driver's car. He gave more details of occupants of the car than anything else. "Eastern European looking characters." I'm sure the guards are still laughing their nuts off


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,282 ✭✭✭Bandara


    AMIIAM wrote: »
    kcier, It is obvious to me that you need to visit SPECSAVERS. Either that or you may have difficulty comprehending the meaning of a small paragraph. Nowhere in Drummers original post gives exact details of offending driver's car. He gave more details of occupants of the car than anything else. "Eastern European looking characters." I'm sure the guards are still laughing their nuts off

    Please grow up, you are petty points scoring on an internet forum where the topic being discussed could have been the death of 4 or more people.

    There is a time and a place, this is not one of them.

    Regards,

    HT


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    AMIIAM wrote: »
    kcier, It is obvious to me that you need to visit SPECSAVERS. Either that or you may have difficulty comprehending the meaning of a small paragraph. Nowhere in Drummers original post gives exact details of offending driver's car. He gave more details of occupants of the car than anything else. "Eastern European looking characters." I'm sure the guards are still laughing their nuts off

    what exactly is your problem? interesting thread apart from your petty snipes. if they looked eastern european, they looked eastern european. that's it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 149 ✭✭AMIIAM


    Drunken Paddies also look like Eastern Europeans. OK? Ads.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35 goosey gander


    drummerboy, i dont think your going to have much luck unless you have witnesses other than yourself....The traffic corps need 5 seperate reports of bad driving for a specified car before they will act.

    I know all this because my best friend was in a small accident where someone scratched the side of her car while she was parked up and even though she got the reg of the car nothing ever came of it even though she was in the garda station every second day for 2 months.

    As far as the gaurds are concerned its your word against the "eastern europeans".


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,708 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    AMIIAM wrote: »
    kcier, It is obvious to me that you need to visit SPECSAVERS. Either that or you may have difficulty comprehending the meaning of a small paragraph. Nowhere in Drummers original post gives exact details of offending driver's car. He gave more details of occupants of the car than anything else. "Eastern European looking characters." I'm sure the guards are still laughing their nuts off
    AMIIAM wrote: »
    Drunken Paddies also look like Eastern Europeans. OK? Ads.

    i take it your from eastern europe :eek:
    the foreigners nearly killed somebody due to their driving style, the OP is very lucky that he had the foresight to sense something was wrong and is still alive because of it.

    if only all drivers, including the eastern europeans learned this, maybe the roads would be much much safer out there.

    in regards to the specsavers comment, i find it very very very ironic that somebody thats telling me to get my eyes checked, cant even read my name and replicate it in plain text :D epic fail in my books there lad :p

    Proper name = kceire
    should of went to specsavers name = kcier


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 149 ✭✭AMIIAM


    kceire, I do not and will not accept that foreigners were the cause of this unfortunate road incident on the basis of a vague assertion that they looked like "Eastern Europeans".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 468 ✭✭VanhireBoys


    You were black cat lucky there Drummerboy.....! That is the sort of stuff that gets boys killed... Only a few days ago there was a serious one outside Newry - a car hit a truck head on.. The brother-in-laws girlfriend came along shortly afterwards and witnessed the scene.. She is well shook by it.

    Learner licence + Too Fast + Dangerous Driving = Fatalities


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,786 ✭✭✭slimjimmc


    You were black cat lucky there Drummerboy.....! That is the sort of stuff that gets boys killed... Only a few days ago there was a serious one outside Newry - a car hit a truck head on.. The brother-in-laws girlfriend came along shortly afterwards and witnessed the scene.. She is well shook by it.

    Learner licence + Too Fast + Dangerous Driving = Fatalities

    Equation is too complicated :) ...

    The most important factor is "Dangerous Driving" and that covers a wide range of driver behaviour.

    Learner permit not relevant as fatalities are often caused by Licenced drivers too, although inexperience would increase the risk of driving dangerously.

    Too Fast not entirely necessary either because you can kill your self or others even without moving fast, e.g pulling out from a junction at the wrong time and ending up under an artic would do it. Driving too fast can come under dangerous driving.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,100 ✭✭✭johndaman66


    AMIIAM wrote: »
    kceire, I do not and will not accept that foreigners were the cause of this unfortunate road incident on the basis of a vague assertion that they looked like "Eastern Europeans".

    Nobody is asking you to accept anything "Three young Eastern European looking guys" is what the OP mentioned. Note that he did not say they were three young Eastern European guys but rather that they looked like they were of Eastern European decent. I reiterate he did not say they were from Eastern Europe but they look like they may have being. Get over it. The OP is looking for advice on how to follow up on what could have potentially being a very serious accident due to the incompetence of the driver of the other car. May I suggest that if you do not have anything positive to contribute to the thread in this regard then you should not contribute.

    OP I rang the traffic watch helpline a while back and found them to be pretty much pointless. They took the details but I heard nothing more about it. Think your best port of call might be to get the exact name of the location of the accident as in townland, call to the Garda station you reckon covers that area and show them the car and supply the details of other vehicle and accident. Demand that the incident is followed up on while remaining polite...D'ONT LOOSE YOUR COOL WHATEVER ELSE. If they are not the Garda station concerned then find out which one is and follow up on the incident in the same manner in this one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,102 ✭✭✭✭Drummerboy08


    Jesus, there's always one.

    AMIIAM, please dont post in this thread if your not interested in making a constructive response. I simply said that they looked Eastern European, not that they were. If they happen to be Irish, then so be it, but I doubt they were.

    Anyhow, I dropped into the barracks this morning, nobody seemed to know what was going on. Im a bit disappointed tbh. Is it going to take these guys to kill someone before they'll be reprimanded? I'm not having a go at the Gardai btw, I do understand that they are stretched, and they do alot of good work on the road. Its not their fault.

    I got a new wing put on this morning by a panel beater friend who had one off a Focus that got a shunt in the back. I got lucky that it was the same colour. It worked out a lot cheaper than him stripping and repainting it. I'll see if I can get my hands on a new headlight when I go back to Dublin.

    So, im not gonna hold out on getting anything off them, but so far getting the repairs done have only cost me 100e. I wont complain about that.

    Lesson learned, the next time there's a clown in a car behind me, I'll just pull over and let him by.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,786 ✭✭✭slimjimmc


    I called Wexford Garda station and reported it. TBH, they didnt seem interested in it at all, took none of my details and told me I had to report it to Gorey. When I called Gorey, she told me it was Wexford's problem, but took my details and told me she'd send a car out to meet it.

    A couple of guys I know once witnessed a fatal pile-up on a busy national primary road one mid-week evening. Immediately made 999 call then called the nearest manned cop station about 10k away, gave details etc, said it was very serious crash. Cop told him to ring another station which about 20k away in the opposite direction because it's not his area even though it's the same division! After he got through to the other station, repeated the details and told them exactly where the crash was (beside village x), etc the cop asked him for directions how to get there!. Anyways, 1 hour later the gardaí still weren't on scene. Ambulances had came and gone, brought the injured to hostipal, firecrews were cleaning up the debris and most witnesses had headed home. The guy that called the cops went home too and saw a patrol car heading that direction 10mins later.

    So OP, i'm not suprised you didn't get much response.

    [Edit: Kildare area, not Wexford or Gorey]


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,777 ✭✭✭meathstevie


    Folks, whether the driver looked Eastern European or not is immaterial, it's a description the OP gave of who he saw behind the wheel. Don't be surprised he would have said he was Indian or Pakistani looking if someone from the Asian subcontinent was at the wheel of the car.

    The bottom line is that it's possibly a case of dangerous driving causing an accident and failing to remain at the scene of an accident or failing to report. If that's investigated properly and goes to court don't be surprised that there's substantial driving bans and suspended sentences going to be handed out when found guilty.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,693 ✭✭✭david


    I think I know that car. I live about 10km from Gorey Drummerboy08. And if it's the same car I've seen him acting like an idiot before. Is it a pretty faded flat navy colour?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭Hooch


    TBH I didnt read the full thread, but drummerboys are normally good!!

    In regards to reporting dangerous driving heres my 2 cents. Garda stations get calls everyday reporting dangerous driving. The problem is once asked if they wish to make a statement about it the caller says yes no problem....but when you explain to them they would have to give evidence in court....well thats a different matter and the caller normally says forget it!!

    Gardaí cant pursue a case of dangerous driving without a witness. We cannot stop a car and "caution" the driver with no evidence. So if the caller states they do not wish to make the complaint formally in a written statement, then all AGS can do is drive out the road, patrol and watch the offending vehicle drive by. This gets very annoying after the first 150,000 times!!!! We all hate people driving dangerously, and I have been to enough fatals in my career so far to now be of the opinion if it warrants someone ringing in....it warrants an appearance in court!!

    In regards to reporting incidents I would suggest Traffic watch to be on peoples speed dial....very few people have 9 numbers on speed dial so put traffic watch on number 9. Of course if the driving is so dangerous that in your opinion it warrants a 999/112 call, then by all means call it!

    Hope this helps


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,102 ✭✭✭✭Drummerboy08


    david wrote: »
    I think I know that car. I live about 10km from Gorey Drummerboy08. And if it's the same car I've seen him acting like an idiot before. Is it a pretty faded flat navy colour?

    That sounds like it alright! It looked like it had seen better days.
    TBH I didnt read the full thread, but drummerboys are normally good!!

    In regards to reporting dangerous driving heres my 2 cents. Garda stations get calls everyday reporting dangerous driving. The problem is once asked if they wish to make a statement about it the caller says yes no problem....but when you explain to them they would have to give evidence in court....well thats a different matter and the caller normally says forget it!!

    I hear what your saying NGA. I would have no problem making a statement, and going to court on it. My thinking behind this is, if I was watching the news tonight, and seen an accident being reported along that same stretch of road, and one of the cars happened to be a blue Toyota Corolla, how would I feel?
    Gardaí cant pursue a case of dangerous driving without a witness. We cannot stop a car and "caution" the driver with no evidence. So if the caller states they do not wish to make the complaint formally in a written statement, then all AGS can do is drive out the road, patrol and watch the offending vehicle drive by. This gets very annoying after the first 150,000 times!!!! We all hate people driving dangerously, and I have been to enough fatals in my career so far to now be of the opinion if it warrants someone ringing in....it warrants an appearance in court!!

    Again, I appreciate what your saying. The main reason I was frustrated and disappointed this morning was the fact the nobdy seemed to know anything about it, evena after a good 15 minutes of asking. That to me sounds like a bad break in communication between the Gardai. Again, I'm certainly not having a swipe at AGS, I appreciate the level of work they have to do on a daily basis.

    I've seen and lived with the consequences of a serious RTA for the lst 3 years, so when I see somone intentionally driving dangerously, it really boils my blood. Again, i'm not angel, I've done my fair share of stupid things on the road over the years, but none IMO would have put anyone's live in danger, apart rom my own.
    In regards to reporting incidents I would suggest Traffic watch to be on peoples speed dial....very few people have 9 numbers on speed dial so put traffic watch on number 9. Of course if the driving is so dangerous that in your opinion it warrants a 999/112 call, then by all means call it!

    Hope this helps

    I just dialled 11811 and asked for the number of both stations. I had the number of the Wexford barracks saved on my last phone, but its gone. I will actually save both, and the traffic watch line now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 457 ✭✭hiorta


    I'm not familiar with that bit of road - is it a sort of short-cut? What comes to mind is that if it is used by folk going/ returning to places, there could be just about anyone on it.
    But, 'East European looking' sounds a bit racist without anything more to go on. It could even have been a few priests returning from a short break and many of them do have a 'different' air about them.
    You're ok, which really is the main thing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,502 ✭✭✭Zube


    hiorta wrote: »
    But, 'East European looking' sounds a bit racist without anything more to go on.

    FFS, if Drummerboy had said "3 blonde young ones", would that be sexist and ageist? If he said "3 ginger fat guys" would that have been insensitive?

    Racist, my hole.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,354 ✭✭✭smellslikeshoes


    That is an awful dangerous road, lots of bends and very narrow. If someone does what the OP had done to him there is really nowhere to go except the ditch, no space on either side to pull in out of the way. Great job OP on reading the situation well and coming out of it safe and well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,738 ✭✭✭CR 7


    AMIIAM wrote: »
    kcier, It is obvious to me that you need to visit SPECSAVERS. Either that or you may have difficulty comprehending the meaning of a small paragraph. Nowhere in Drummers original post gives exact details of offending driver's car. He gave more details of occupants of the car than anything else. "Eastern European looking characters." I'm sure the guards are still laughing their nuts off

    So if on 2 separate occasions, the following sets of people crashed into you, then fled the scene, please explain how you would describe them, at a quick glance.

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  • Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    unkel wrote: »
    You sensed there might be trouble, so you took pre-emptive action. The hallmark of a safe (and usually experienced) driver. Fair play to ya, you might very well have prevented a serious accident from happening!

    Would have been better to slow down much more really, if anyone overtakes me on a white line on bend (very rare admittedly) when I don't know that there is nothing coming I slow way way down to allow them room to get in in front of me. Much better plan than leaving the road yourself a dew seconds later if you don't slow down enough.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,062 ✭✭✭Fighting Irish


    The problem with most road users is they travel in packs and make it impossible for people to overtake. And then you get mad cunts like the toyota who will try overtake anything anywhere. The only real solution to this problem is, if you're not going to try overtake the car in front, stay well back from it

    Well, it was an interesting drive home from Dublin to Wexford this evening.

    For those of you who know the road, I usually turn off the Gorey bypass for Ballycanew. It's not the best road in the world, in particular when its wet.

    So, when I turned off the road, I notice a 96 Toyota Corrolla glued to my rear bumper. Three young, Eastern european looking guys, with a nice set of L plates up. There were a number of cars ahead of me, so the traffic was moving fairly slowly, around 60kmph.

    I was watching him fairly closely - He was hugging the white line, trying to see if he could get by me. Bare in mind, there was at least 4 cars ahead of me, so he wouldnt have really gone anywhere.

    After about 5 minutes of it, he made his move - on a solid white line, on a blind bend!:eek: I knew it was trouble, so I eased up and left a bigger gap ahead. Next thing, there's a car coming up towards us, while the Toyota is parallel with me. He swerved in, forcing me into the hedge, and causing me to brake very hard. Had I not reacted quickly, someone would have been seriously injured.

    Luckily, there's not much damage done to my car. A few scratches, and a crack in one of the light lenses.

    I was - and still am - furious, and fairly shook. I called Wexford Garda station and reported it. TBH, they didnt seem interested in it at all, took none of my details and told me I had to report it to Gorey. When I called Gorey, she told me it was Wexford's problem, but took my details and told me she'd send a car out to meet it.

    He was probably no more than 5 minutes ahead of me, but there was no sign of any Garda on the road. TBH, im a bit disappointed. I'll hold my breath, and wait to see if the Garda call me tommorow.

    Anyhow, sorry for the rant! Just wanted to get the load off my chest!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,102 ✭✭✭✭Drummerboy08


    RoverJames wrote: »
    Would have been better to slow down much more really, if anyone overtakes me on a white line on bend (very rare admittedly) when I don't know that there is nothing coming I slow way way down to allow them room to get in in front of me. Much better plan than leaving the road yourself a dew seconds later if you don't slow down enough.
    The problem with most road users is they travel in packs and make it impossible for people to overtake. And then you get mad cunts like the toyota who will try overtake anything anywhere. The only real solution to this problem is, if you're not going to try overtake the car in front, stay well back from it


    The reason I didnt, was because there is a good stretch of road about 30 seconds down the road, where you can see for a good mile, and overtake a few cars at once (No, its not a solid white line, No, I wouldnt have been breaking the speed limit, and Yes I have done it before).

    No sign of anything from the Gardai. Hopefully, my report will go against that car until the next time someone reports it.

    Mods, feel free to lock this one up before it turns into a bloodbath.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,984 ✭✭✭Max Headroom


    So if on 2 separate occasions, the following sets of people crashed into you, then fled the scene, please explain how you would describe them, at a quick glance.

    poles460.jpg

    and

    irishman.jpg


    .."Yes Garda...they/he looked like a knacker"...........:D


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 18,381 Mod ✭✭✭✭Solitaire


    IBTL :D

    Parting shot: AMIIAM, stop trying to cry "racist" when that is very clearly not the case. All you are doing is trying to start a flame war and pull the whole thread off-topic, which is why this thread has to be shut now. If you keep this up on other threads I will pity you - because the mods certainly won't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,062 ✭✭✭Fighting Irish


    The reason I didnt, was because there is a good stretch of road about 30 seconds down the road, where you can see for a good mile, and overtake a few cars at once (No, its not a solid white line, No, I wouldnt have been breaking the speed limit, and Yes I have done it before).

    No sign of anything from the Gardai. Hopefully, my report will go against that car until the next time someone reports it.

    Mods, feel free to lock this one up before it turns into a bloodbath.

    I was talking in general, not really pointing the finger at you :cool:

    Isn't breaking the speed limit while overtaking ok?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,495 ✭✭✭Abelloid


    You should run the plate through mywheels.ie too. Just to see if thy are fake or anything.

    See if it's taxed and NCT'd too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,821 ✭✭✭Xcellor


    While I think whoever was the cause of this crash is an a**hole and shouldn't be allowed to drive it does highlight a common behaviour of Irish drivers that of sitting right behind someone with no intention of overtaking.

    Unfortunately we don't have great roads in this country and we don't have great drivers either. So many travel at 80km when the speed limit is 100km and stay bunched up.

    If you aren't going to overtake then stay the f*ck back from the car in front. If you aren't going to drive the speed limits on perfectly fine roads then buy a bike or walk to where-ever you're going...

    X


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 149 ✭✭AMIIAM


    Solitaire, It is not me who is being racist. OP stated (rightly or wrongly) that the offending car was occupied by "Eastern Europeans." This statement in my opinion is inciting racism. I am sorry if fellow posters are unable/unwilling to accept what is there in black and white.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,961 ✭✭✭roosterman71


    AMIIAM wrote: »
    Solitaire, It is not me who is being racist. OP stated (rightly or wrongly) that the offending car was occupied by "Eastern Europeans." This statement in my opinion is inciting racism. I am sorry if fellow posters are unable/unwilling to accept what is there in African-American and white.

    Fixed that for you :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,731 ✭✭✭✭R.O.R


    AMIIAM wrote: »
    Solitaire, It is not me who is being racist. OP stated (rightly or wrongly) that the offending car was occupied by "Eastern Europeans." This statement in my opinion is inciting racism. I am sorry if fellow posters are unable/unwilling to accept what is there in black and white.

    He said they LOOKED Eastern European.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    Let's keep it on-topic, people.


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