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Should Orangemen stop playing with their flutes ?

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  • #2
    phasers
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    Um...


  • #3
    Turtyturd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,400 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    phasers wrote: »
    Um...

    You don't see what he did there?

    You missed the hilarity.


  • #4
    philologos
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,479 ✭✭✭✭philologos


    What defines a Catholic in these statistics? Indeed what defines a Protestant?

    IMO, I don't see all that much a problem if Orangemen want to do their thing on the 12th July.


  • #5
    prinz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    Maybe the 'Catholics' should take up the flute and beat them at their own game.


  • #6
    General Zod
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,661 ✭✭✭General Zod


    Jakkass wrote: »
    What defines a Catholic in these statistics? Indeed what defines a Protestant?

    IMO, I don't see all that much a problem if Orangemen want to do their thing on the 12th July.


    I actually want to see an Orange float in the St. Patricks Day parade. All Irish culture should be celebrated that day, however unfortunately I don't think they see it that way.


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  • #7
    Hagar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,786 ✭✭✭✭Hagar


    What part of the Dutch King William of Orange is Irish? I must have been out sick that day in school.


  • #8
    ejmaztec
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,260 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    69 wrote: »
    What part of the Dutch King William of Orange is Irish? I must have been out sick that day in school.

    They didn't care whether he was Irish or not, especially when they heard there was free Dutch Gold on offer.


  • #9
    General Zod
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,661 ✭✭✭General Zod


    69 wrote: »
    What part of the Dutch King William of Orange is Irish? I must have been out sick that day in school.


    The part where he won a battle on Irish soil with the backing of the Vatican.
    The biggest complaint of 6 county Protestants (of all denominations) is that they will never be accepted in the south in a united Ireland. we need to show them they have nothing to fear.


    (BTW i see the Orange order parades as something completely different to those "Love Ulster" nutters.)

    Not to mention St. Patrick was a Briton born in Wales and ordained in Dunbarton. He's also the patron saint of Norn Iron.


  • #10
    MaybeLogic
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    69 wrote: »
    What part of the Dutch King William of Orange is Irish? I must have been out sick that day in school.

    The ironic thing being there have been Orangemen living on Irish soil before there was even a conception of a St.Patrick's Day parade and St. Patrick's day having something to do with St. Patrick bringing us the gift of Christianity at a time predating the Catholic/Protestant divide.
    Or something.


  • #11
    Fratton Fred
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    Are all protestants orangemen then? I thought we were blacks?


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  • #12
    ejmaztec
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,260 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Fratton Fred wrote: »
    Are all protestants orangemen then? I thought we were blacks?

    That's just Desmond Tutu.


  • #13
    Rockn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 363 ✭✭Rockn


    prinz wrote: »
    Maybe the 'Catholics' should take up the flute and beat them at their own game.
    I'd like to see this interdenominational flute-off.


  • #14
    SlabMurphy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 462 ✭✭SlabMurphy


    General Zod wrote: »
    I actually want to see an Orange float in the St. Patricks Day parade. All Irish culture should be celebrated that day, however unfortunately I don't think they see it that way.
    Yeah and maybe they'll have a few Kick the Pope bands, bonfires burning the tri colour, GAA and Rep. Of Ireland shirts while drunken yobs in Rangers tops shout " burn all taigs.....the pope's a cnut etc " :rolleyes:

    It's not Irish culture, it's not even British culture, it's secterian culture


  • #15
    Hagar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,786 ✭✭✭✭Hagar


    Fratton Fred wrote: »
    Are all protestants orangemen then? I thought we were blacks?
    Only the enamelled illegitimate ones.


  • #16
    m5ex9oqjawdg2i
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    ULSTER SAYS NO!!!


  • #17
    SlabMurphy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 462 ✭✭SlabMurphy


    General Zod wrote: »
    The part where he won a battle on Irish soil with the backing of the Vatican.
    Yes indeed, lead by a gay Dutch King who had many Catholics in his army and who defeated a British one.
    The biggest complaint of 6 county Protestants (of all denominations) is that they will never be accepted in the south in a united Ireland. we need to show them they have nothing to fear.
    Many six county Protestants do not want to have anything to do with the Orange Order, don't paint them all with the one brush.

    (BTW i see the Orange order parades as something completely different to those "Love Ulster" nutters.)

    In what way ?


  • #18
    Hagar
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    Roman Brave Pan wrote: »
    ULSTER SAYS NO!!!
    But the man from Del Monte says "Yes". (Grafitti seen on a billboard in Belfast.)


  • #19
    MaybeLogic
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    SlabMurphy wrote: »

    Many six county Protestants do not want to have anything to do with the Orange Order, don't paint them all with the one brush.

    SlabMurphy wrote: »
    Yeah and maybe they'll have a few Kick the Pope bands, bonfires burning the tri colour, GAA and Rep. Of Ireland shirts while drunken yobs in Rangers tops shout " burn all taigs.....the pope's a cnut etc "


    :rolleyes:


  • #20
    SlabMurphy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 462 ✭✭SlabMurphy


    69 wrote: »
    But the man from Del Monte says "Yes". (Grafitti seen on a billboard in Belfast.)

    " But the man from Del Monte says "Yes". " And he's an Orange Man :)


  • #21
    SlabMurphy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 462 ✭✭SlabMurphy


    MaybeLogic wrote: »
    :rolleyes:
    ?


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  • #22
    General Zod
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,661 ✭✭✭General Zod


    Fratton Fred wrote: »
    Are all protestants orangemen then? I thought we were blacks?


    No, they are not. However, the antagonism shown towards the Orange Order is used by agenda driven media in the North to show that "Ireland hates protestants".

    Remove the evidence and their agenda has no grounds to be pushed.

    slabmurphy, your comments about sectarianism that attaches itself to Orange parades are correct. but don't equate the dog with the lice on it's back.

    BTW, I'm no fan of the Orange Order, I'm not a fan of it's triumphalist attitude nor what they stand for, but the longer we allow the agenda to be pushed the further out the chances of a United Ireland will go.


  • #23
    o1s1n
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,151 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Hint:

    By 'flutes' he meant
    penises


  • #24
    Hagar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,786 ✭✭✭✭Hagar


    It's very hard to comfort someone against an irrational fear. The Northern Protestants are terrified that thay will be treated in the same way that they treated Catholics for a very long time. I think the Irish people are bigger than that. I have no animosity towards the Protestant Community or indeed any other religious community for that matter. I would rather see all references to organised religion cleansed from our statute books. That would go a long way towards opening Irish society up as would a few prosecutions for paedophile clergymen.


  • #25
    fryup
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    Slabmurphy for a man with a provo username your views seem to be very unprovo like


  • #26
    whadabouchasir
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 942 ✭✭✭whadabouchasir


    General Zod wrote: »
    I actually want to see an Orange float in the St. Patricks Day parade.
    I would too.i just wouldn't want to see the riots afterwards.


  • #27
    MaybeLogic
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    fryup wrote: »
    Slabmurphy for a man with a provo username your views seem to be very unprovo like
    The Provos have turned their backs on provo-ness.
    This is the new, conciliatory Slab Murphy.


  • #28
    ejmaztec
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,260 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    MaybeLogic wrote: »
    The Provos have turned their backs on provo-ness.
    This is the new, conciliatory Slab Murphy.

    I'm still in his black book though, so he hasn't completely gone Gandhi.:(


  • #29
    fryup
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    FYI - there's lots of catholics in the north that vote unionist you know


  • #30
    Hagar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,786 ✭✭✭✭Hagar


    I wouldn't go as far as to say "lots". Some maybe, but lots is pushing it.


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  • #31
    Dyr
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    General Zod wrote: »
    I actually want to see an Orange float in the St. Patricks Day parade.

    Ah an ould orange float would be a grand thing to see


  • #32
    ejmaztec
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,260 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Bambi wrote: »
    Ah an ould orange float would be a grand thing to see

    I could make a fortune selling bricks.


  • #33
    philologos
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    General Zod wrote: »
    The biggest complaint of 6 county Protestants (of all denominations) is that they will never be accepted in the south in a united Ireland. we need to show them they have nothing to fear.

    Is it the biggest complaint? I mean, in the 1920's perhaps, but I think most of them just prefer being a part of the UK. There'll only be a United Ireland if there is support for it. I don't think there is majority support for it in the Republic let alone in the North.


  • #34
    SlabMurphy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 462 ✭✭SlabMurphy


    fryup wrote: »
    FYI - there's lots of catholics in the north that vote unionist you know
    And about as many Protestants in the north that vote nationalist you know.
    Jakkass wrote: »
    Is it the biggest complaint? I mean, in the 1920's perhaps, but I think most of them just prefer being a part of the UK. There'll only be a United Ireland if there is support for it. I don't think there is majority support for it in the Republic let alone in the North.
    " I don't think there is majority support for it in the Republic let alone in the North. " Here we go yet again :rolleyes: Poor wee ulster grasping at straws again :rolleyes: PM that guy dlofnep and he may post you back the links showing how consistently poll after poll down here has supported a United Ireland.

    Still doesn't it just go to show how far the great unionist monolith has fallen - when it once didn't want to have a Catholic about the place to now hoping the Fenians will save their little Ulster :)


  • #35
    SlabMurphy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 462 ✭✭SlabMurphy


    If the Orange men become Catholics - would that increase their numbers ?


  • #36
    Hagar
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    Wouldn't they be turfed out of their lodges ?

    Turf, Lodge, see what I did there?


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  • #37
    mike65
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    Should Orangemen stop playing with their flutes

    Wasn't that the name of a saucy tv series? :confused:


  • #38
    kowloon
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    Orange parades wouldn't bother me if they weren't so boring. There should be a rule that you can't clog up the streets with crap parades. They should be throwing sweets into the crowd. Orange Chewits.


  • #39
    philologos
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    SlabMurphy wrote: »
    " I don't think there is majority support for it in the Republic let alone in the North. " Here we go yet again :rolleyes: Poor wee ulster grasping at straws again :rolleyes: PM that guy dlofnep and he may post you back the links showing how consistently poll after poll down here has supported a United Ireland.

    What do you mean by 'poor wee ulster'?

    I think on consideration of the economic cost of the North to the State people start to take a different look on it. I personally don't care that much if the North stays in UK hands, it's not that big an issue to me as long as such governance respects common freedoms.

    I think one can get overly patriotic. All that really matters in the grand scale of things is that we live in free nations that respect human dignity and rights.
    SlabMurphy wrote: »
    Still doesn't it just go to show how far the great unionist monolith has fallen - when it once didn't want to have a Catholic about the place to now hoping the Fenians will save their little Ulster :)

    Again, what is one defining as Catholic? - Are you basing it on practice? Church attendance? Or are you just referring to it as a label or identification?


  • #40
    the_syco
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    69 wrote: »
    It's very hard to comfort someone against an irrational fear. The Northern Protestants are terrified that thay will be treated in the same way that they treated Catholics for a very long time.
    And here's me thinking they wanted to stay part of England. Should get them down here to our hospitals: they'll never want to leave the NHS then...


  • #41
    Rented Mule
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    69 wrote: »
    What part of the Dutch King William of Orange is Irish? I must have been out sick that day in school.

    Well this is funny.....you're patron saint is a Welshman.


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  • #42
    MaybeLogic
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    cleremy jarkson wrote: »
    /And on that note, the thread dies a horrible death

    These Republican/Protestant threads never back down.
    No Surrender!


  • #43
    gsxr1
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    they should be given an area to march in .

    a big field in the middle of nowhere.

    Away for the people and areas that hate them. ( and they hate)

    In this field, they can march, chant, burn irish flags, do whatever the hell they want.

    result is that no one will be upset or hurt.


  • #44
    Hagar
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    Rented Mule wrote: »
    Well this is funny.....you're patron saint is a Welshman.
    He's not my patron saint thanks all the same. I am an atheist, I don't go in much for the holy man thing.


  • #45
    ejmaztec
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    69 wrote: »
    He's not my patron saint thanks all the same. I am an atheist, I don't go in much for the holy man thing.


    I expect there's a patron saint of atheists mentioned somewhere.


  • #46
    Hagar
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    St Thomas, doubting Thomas as he was sometimes known. :)


  • #47
    Bob Z
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    They know where they can stick their flutes....


  • #48
    Mike 1972
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    SlabMurphy wrote: »
    it's about 163,371 Catholics to 121,239 Protestants.

    1) How many atheists
    2) How for the love of fcuk is it relevent to the price of eggs
    3) Didnt Richard Dawkins point out the stupidity of the concept of A "Protestant" child/"Catholic" child
    69 wrote: »
    What part of the Dutch King William of Orange is Irish? I must have been out sick that day in school.
    Someone remind me what part of Ireland was that Patrick guy from :rolleyes:


  • #49
    stovelid
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    Parades are boooring.

    Pitbulls wearing custom Rangers body warmers: now there's a trenchant body-blow against the provo hegemony.


  • #50
    philologos
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    Mike 1972 wrote: »
    1) How many atheists
    2) How for the love of fcuk is it relevent to the price of eggs
    3) Didnt Richard Dawkins point out the stupidity of the concept of A "Protestant" child/"Catholic" child

    1) Other / no-religion / not recorded - 27,440

    3) Disagreeing with Richard Dawkins isn't blasphemy. Nor is he correct on everything. I do agree with him in relation to this however. It would be more apt to suggest that people are of a "Catholic" background rather than that they are "Catholic" children. Indeed the Evangelical Alliance in the UK agreed with Dawkins.


  • #51
    Hank_Jones
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    Ugghh religion.

    Save it for church churchy...

    I honestly don't understand how someone can look at another person and feel hate because that person is not of the same religion as them.
    I could understand if the person had wronged them in some way, but to just hate someone because they have slightly different religious beliefs is just crazy. (Don't mention the troubles, I'm just talking about religion)


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