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Humane finish for winged pigeon

  • 18-04-2010 12:29PM
    #1
    Odysseus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,752 ✭✭✭


    As stated above, if you drop a piegon and its still flapping; how do you finish it off quickly and humanely? I currently just pop another shell into it, I would rather not do this as I like piegon breasts. They seem to have a rubber neck on them! I tried giving it a sharpe yank extented the neck and tried twisting it to. I think if I pull any further I'll just rip the head off.

    What am I doing wrong? I don't want to be messing about and causing the bird pain, which is why I put another shell into him as it stands. However, they tend to end up not fit for the pot the. Help anyone?


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  • #2
    steve french
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 161 ✭✭steve french


    a sledge hammer to the head? sounds cruel but it would probably work:(


  • #3
    endasmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,280 ✭✭✭endasmail


    a "priest" would do the job


  • #4
    Odysseus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,752 ✭✭✭Odysseus


    "a sledge hammer to the head? sounds cruel but it would probably work"


    Cheers, just what I was looking for:rolleyes:


  • #5
    It wasn't me!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,034 ✭✭✭✭It wasn't me!


    Second the priest suggestion. A short length of Antler, about seven inches long, with about an inch and a half at one end filled with lead, is an excellent tool for dispatching wounded game.


  • #6
    Grizzly 45
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,200 ✭✭✭✭Grizzly 45


    sharp blow to the back of the head with a fishing preist[fancy term for a piece of turned wood or steel in the shape of a cosh].Or if you have a seath knife ,keep the blade seathed and use the handle as an improvised cosh.
    If you are trying the neck dislocation trick.
    Grab the body between the wings with your weak hand.Put your thumb and index finger over the "shoulders" so the head is sticking out.Strong hand over as much of the head a possible.You do a kind of stretch,pull and twist hands manouvere with both the body being twisted anti clockwise and the head clockwise.Done right it is instant death.

    "If you want to keep someone away from your house, Just fire the shotgun through the door."

    Vice President [and former lawyer] Joe Biden Field& Stream Magazine interview Feb 2013 "



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  • #7
    Odysseus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,752 ✭✭✭Odysseus


    endasmail wrote: »
    a "priest" would do the job

    Yeah I thinking along those lines, but I would like to find out what I'm doing wrong with their necks


  • #8
    Odysseus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,752 ✭✭✭Odysseus


    Grizzly 45 wrote: »
    sharp blow to the back of the head with a fishing preist[fancy term for a piece of turned wood or steel in the shape of a cosh].Or if you have a seath knife ,keep the blade seathed and use the handle as an improvised cosh.
    If you are trying the neck dislocation trick.
    Grab the body between the wings with your weak hand.Put your thumb and index finger over the "shoulders" so the head is sticking out.Strong hand over as much of the head a possible.You do a kind of stretch,pull and twist hands manouvere with both the body being twisted anti clockwise and the head clockwise.Done right it is instant death.

    Cheers, literally running out the door now. I with give that a shot.


  • #9
    It wasn't me!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,034 ✭✭✭✭It wasn't me!


    Also, and not trying to be disparaging, but if you're finding you're pricking more than the occasional bird, it would be worth getting some decent tuition at a clay grounds. Nobody likes to wound things, and that would drop the rate of it happening significantly.


  • #10
    Dvs
    Closed Accounts Posts: 379 ✭✭Dvs


    He means this type of priest:
    picture.php?albumid=933&pictureid=5923

    Dvs.


  • #11
    dwighet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,399 ✭✭✭dwighet


    I just pull the head off......instant lights out..


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  • #12
    Dvs
    Closed Accounts Posts: 379 ✭✭Dvs


    dwighet wrote: »
    I just pull the head off......instant lights out..

    Do you use your hands or do you Ozzy them?

    :D

    Dvs.


  • #13
    dwighet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,399 ✭✭✭dwighet


    Dvs wrote: »
    Do you use your hands or do you Ozzy them?

    :D

    Dvs.

    Ozzy them????


  • #14
    patsat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,197 ✭✭✭patsat


    dwighet wrote: »
    Ozzy them????

    I think he means the method ozzy osbourne used for the bat!:D:D:D


  • #15
    dwighet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,399 ✭✭✭dwighet


    patsat wrote: »
    I think he means the method ozzy osbourne used for the bat!:D:D:D

    Right.....Now im with ya...Im not the sharpest tool in the shed on a Sunday..:)

    I use the champane cork technique..;)


  • #16
    jwshooter
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,612 ✭✭✭jwshooter


    take it by the head ,hold tight and turn your wrist two or three times briskly .

    it brakes it neck very quickly , it might take a bit of practice but works very well if you over do it the head will come off .

    i kill duck , pigeon , pheasants this way for the lads i shoot with . BTW :D


  • #17
    Odysseus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,752 ✭✭✭Odysseus


    It wasn't me! wrote: »
    Also, and not trying to be disparaging, but if you're finding you're pricking more than the occasional bird, it would be worth getting some decent tuition at a clay grounds. Nobody likes to wound things, and that would drop the rate of it happening significantly.

    All kills today, however, lessons are something I plan on, to improve. So no probs, didn't view it as disparaging at all. I just don't like wounded amimals as you noted yourself, I come out of my hide immediately and sort the problem out. It's just not right to leave a wounded animal there dying.

    When I came in and seen it was now 2 pages, I was dreading reading it. I thought usual PC brigrade had picked up on it, and was expecting the usual sh!te along the line of how could you break a birds neck.

    Anyway thanks for all the imput, it time to start cooning the pie:)


  • #18
    It wasn't me!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,034 ✭✭✭✭It wasn't me!


    Good stuff. Enjoy. Not much better than a nice bit of pigeon. I need to get myself a shotgun to start accumulating the feckers myself!


  • #19
    Dusty87
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,920 ✭✭✭Dusty87


    It happened to me last year. I tried the neck breaking but i didnt actually pull the head of, i ripped all the skin. I then made a priest until i learned how to break neck properly. Odysseus, if you have some free time, get a bannister off a stairs. Cut it to legnth and dicky it up a bit. Makes a great priest. Hard to explain in writing, il put up a few picks tomorrow. It ends up looking like an old english bobby baton. Effective though. PM me if you want one, iv a few here lying around. (free of course ;) ).


  • #20
    jwshooter
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,612 ✭✭✭jwshooter


    Dusty87 wrote: »
    It happened to me last year. I tried the neck breaking but i didnt actually pull the head of, i ripped all the skin. I then made a priest until i learned how to break neck properly. Odysseus, if you have some free time, get a bannister off a stairs. Cut it to legnth and dicky it up a bit. Makes a great priest. Hard to explain in writing, il put up a few picks tomorrow. It ends up looking like an old english bobby baton. Effective though. PM me if you want one, iv a few here lying around. (free of course ;) ).


    i hope you asked your mother was it ok to cut the bannister out of the stairs


  • #21
    Odysseus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,752 ✭✭✭Odysseus


    Dusty87 wrote: »
    It happened to me last year. I tried the neck breaking but i didnt actually pull the head of, i ripped all the skin. I then made a priest until i learned how to break neck properly. Odysseus, if you have some free time, get a bannister off a stairs. Cut it to legnth and dicky it up a bit. Makes a great priest. Hard to explain in writing, il put up a few picks tomorrow. It ends up looking like an old english bobby baton. Effective though. PM me if you want one, iv a few here lying around. (free of course ;) ).

    Cheers thank for the offer but I have plently of stuff like around here to make something suitable. However, I want to get the hang of doing it correctly with my hands. The priest would just be another thing to carry. Between decoys, netting and and associated stuff its a bit of a handful.

    Especially as one of my permissions is only 500 yrds away, so I walk into the fields most of the time.


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  • #22
    Dusty87
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,920 ✭✭✭Dusty87


    Odysseus wrote: »
    Cheers thank for the offer but I have plently of stuff like around here to make something suitable. However, I want to get the hang of doing it correctly with my hands. The priest would just be another thing to carry. Between decoys, netting and and associated stuff its a bit of a handful.

    Especially as one of my permissions is only 500 yrds away, so I walk into the fields most of the time.

    Yea know what you mean. I was bored with plenty of time on my hands and 3 or 4 leftover bannisters from a job:)
    Was handy but as you said when you learn how to do it its just extra weight.


  • #23
    Dusty87
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,920 ✭✭✭Dusty87


    jwshooter wrote: »
    i hope you asked your mother was it ok to cut the bannister out of the stairs

    Wasnt the mother who gave me permission John,
    Did your wife not consult you about the one missin from your house??????:p


  • #24
    jwshooter
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,612 ✭✭✭jwshooter


    Dusty87 wrote: »
    Wasnt the mother who gave me permission John,
    Did your wife not consult you about the one missin from your house??????:p

    she is not my wife , she is just using me for sex


  • #25
    Dusty87
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,920 ✭✭✭Dusty87


    JW your better than that lol. Find yourself a good woman to cook all that venison for ya.





    God, my short break from the forums, and i missed trying to rise you most ha ha


  • #26
    jwshooter
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,612 ✭✭✭jwshooter


    she cant cook wort a crap dusty .but i let her off as she has 4 fine sisters :D


  • #27
    Dusty87
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,920 ✭✭✭Dusty87


    jwshooter wrote: »
    she cant cook wort a crap dusty .but i let her off as she has 4 fine sisters :D

    What was that podge and rodge song years ago?? "Doing the wifes sisters on the sly" or something. My ones is an only daughter so i dont have your luck:D


  • #28
    jwshooter
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,612 ✭✭✭jwshooter


    Dusty87 wrote: »
    What was that podge and rodge song years ago?? "Doing the wifes sisters on the sly" or something. My ones is an only daughter so i dont have your luck:D

    after the farm lad ;)


  • #29
    Dusty87
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,920 ✭✭✭Dusty87


    jwshooter wrote: »
    after the farm lad ;)

    Jaysus, what can i say, your some hoor:D

    she musnt read the boards


  • #30
    jwshooter
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,612 ✭✭✭jwshooter


    Dusty87 wrote: »
    Jaysus, what can i say, your some hoor:D

    she musnt read the boards

    coming from a offaly man , thats a complement


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  • #31
    J.R.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,391 ✭✭✭J.R.


    Odysseus wrote: »
    However, I want to get the hang of doing it correctly with my hands.

    One popular method practiced by many is to hold the bird by the head between your first two fingers and give the bird a good old 'whip', allowing its own body weight to break the neck. This method can result in a quick painless despatch but be aware that it takes some of practice to get it right. Bear in mind that a birds neck needs to be fully extended when you are doing it, otherwise it turns into a "spring" form and won't break properly....this may be where you're experiencing difficulty.

    Another similar method is to hold the birds neck between forefinger and middle finger with thumb placed on top of the birds skull. Keep the beak towards your body, allowing the bird to hang vertically. You now have a heavy body supported by a thin neck. Now simply twirl the bird round in a very tight circle for three or four revolutions. You will feel the neck `snap’ and the bird is dead.


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