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Quick VRT avoidance question

  • 31-05-2010 03:09PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,591 ✭✭✭


    If a relative who is living in the UK, buys a car, then later changes their residence back to Ireland and brings the car with them, do they have to wait for a certain period back in Ireland before they can sell the car without suffering a VRT claim by Revenue ?

    Could I on arrival just buy the car off of them or are there fairly intensive anti avoidance measures in place ?


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,908 ✭✭✭✭MetzgerMeister


    Just pay the VRT and stop looking for a way out :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,714 ✭✭✭no1beemerfan


    The owner can't sell it for 12 months after bringing the car into Ireland.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 433 ✭✭Possedion


    you could trade it in with a garage, 2 month or so before the 12 month is up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,534 ✭✭✭SV


    Just pay the VRT and stop looking for a way out :rolleyes:

    ah cop on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,035 ✭✭✭✭-Chris-


    The owner can't sell it for 12 months after bringing the car into Ireland.


    This is it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,908 ✭✭✭✭MetzgerMeister


    SV wrote: »
    ah cop on.

    If I didn't say it, someone would have!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,208 ✭✭✭keithclancy


    If a relative who is living in the UK, buys a car, then later changes their residence back to Ireland and brings the car with them, do they have to wait for a certain period back in Ireland before they can sell the car without suffering a VRT claim by Revenue ?

    Could I on arrival just buy the car off of them or are there fairly intensive anti avoidance measures in place ?

    You can only change residence by changing address + bills + job.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,883 ✭✭✭pa990


    valid question..
    Could have been phrased better though.

    Op.. Contact revenue, ask them, just don't mention "vat avoidance"

    Be more subtle,

    But bear in mind, bringing in a vehicle vrt / vat free is a once in a lifetime thing,
    Your relative won't be allowed bring in another vehicle vrt free ever again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,591 ✭✭✭AugustusMinimus


    You can only change residence by changing address + bills + job.

    No, you change residence by living in a country for more than 183 days in a year or 280 days in a 2 year period.

    At least this is the definition of being Irish resident.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,591 ✭✭✭AugustusMinimus


    The owner can't sell it for 12 months after bringing the car into Ireland.

    What I needed to know. THanks.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,208 ✭✭✭keithclancy


    No, you change residence by living in a country for more than 183 days in a year or 280 days in a 2 year period.

    At least this is the definition of being Irish resident.

    From:
    http://www.revenue.ie/en/tax/vrt/leaflets/vrt4.html
    Claiming Exemption

    The claim for exemption should be made as set out in leaflet VRT 3. In addition to the confirmation required in regard to a recognised international organisation, as already mentioned in this leaflet, you will be required to produce the following:

    * a certificate from an appropriate authorised official confirming your official status and your entitlement to purchase a duty free vehicle;
    * a copy of your contract for service abroad;
    * evidence of service and actual residence abroad;
    * evidence of acquisition of and payment for the vehicle (e.g. invoice, bank statement, HP agreement etc.);
    * evidence of both possession and actual use of the vehicle abroad for a period of 12 months, (e.g. certificate of insurance, registration document, fuel and maintenance charges etc.);
    * other such evidence as may be requested in individual cases.

    In addition, you may also be requested to provide documents relating to shipment of the vehicle from the country of former residence to Ireland, such as shipping documents, etc. and, where appropriate, shipment of the vehicle from the country of acquisition to the country of former residence.

    In theory yes, It is just being in the Country for a Period of it time, but you have to prove ties there, unless you live close to the border you'd be moving houses just to avoid VRT (Sticking your name down paying someones gas bill doesn't really work)

    BTW .. I thought it was you had to own it 6 months abroad, VRT form says 12months now ! ?

    EDIT .. NM .. reading the wrong form :)


  • Posts: 24,713 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    pa990 wrote: »
    But bear in mind, bringing in a vehicle vrt / vat free is a once in a lifetime thing,
    Your relative won't be allowed bring in another vehicle vrt free ever again.

    You cannot do it regularly but its certainly not a once in a lifetime thing. I think its something like 5 years between times.

    Also if you were to move to Ireland with two cars you would be entitled to the exemption on the two of them at the same time.

    No, you change residence by living in a country for more than 183 days in a year or 280 days in a 2 year period.

    At least this is the definition of being Irish resident.

    I have got the exemption and they are quite strict in proving you are moving permanently to Ireland, I had to show them the contract of my new job to prove I was starting work here along with my p45 from the UK to show I no longer worked there.

    BTW .. I thought it was you had to own it 6 months abroad, VRT form says 12months now ! ?

    It was 6 months when I did it this time last year.


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