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How many of us are paleo/primal?
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03-10-2010 11:32PM#1
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El_Dangeroso wrote: »I'm more primal than paleo as I have dairy, dark chocolate and the odd ear of sweetcorn. I do stay completely gluten free though, wheat is not my friend.
He he ya I couldn't resist my mums buttery homegrown sweetcorn last time I was down for a visit, this year her plants were over ten foot tall really bizarre! Gluten is evil, I had a pack of cheese and onion taytos without checking the label during the summer and I was ill for three days after them
Did I ever mention I found herbal tea with gluten in it? 0 -
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He he ya I couldn't resist my mums buttery homegrown sweetcorn last time I was down for a visit, this year her plants were over ten foot tall really bizarre! Gluten is evil, I had a pack of cheese and onion taytos without checking the label during the summer and I was ill for three days after them Did I ever mention I found herbal tea with gluten in it?
That's crazy! I get a really bad reaction from even small amounts of gluten now. It supposedly gets worse the longer you go without it. It's almost like your body doesn't want you to eat it
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Ya I've heard of a good gluten free beer, spanish I think although I've yet to find it. I miss beer too I hate having to pretend I'm a diagnosed celiac when I'm trying to get help in a cafe or restaurant, there's not really any other way to go about saying why you don't eat gluten, bread or wheat in those kinda situations but I feel stupid saying it. I miss bread a lot, I was a serious fresh bread junkie for a long time before going primal, sounds wierd but now I just smell it for ages when my boyfriend gets some and it really satisfies me. 0
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El_Dangeroso wrote: ». Though I do miss beer. Gluten free beer I've tasted is horrible..Ya I've heard of a good gluten free beer, spanish I think although I've yet to find it. I miss beer too
Does beer have that much gluten in it? The Heineken website states that it can be okay for coeliacs, depending on your intolerance level.
I couldn't give a monkeys about bread most of the time, but I do like beer (especially in pubs), however I figure I'm not particularly intolerant to gluten (doesn't make me sick etc...)0 -
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I feel the same way:)Ya I've heard of a good gluten free beer, spanish I think although I've yet to find it. I miss beer too I hate having to pretend I'm a diagnosed celiac when I'm trying to get help in a cafe or restaurant, there's not really any other way to go about saying why you don't eat gluten, bread or wheat in those kinda situations but I feel stupid saying it. I miss bread a lot, I was a serious fresh bread junkie for a long time before going primal, sounds wierd but now I just smell it for ages when my boyfriend gets some and it really satisfies me.0 -
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Complete cut out grains & even sweet potatoes, etc but the weight still isn't coming off :
Do you count your macronutrient intake at all? I can't say I've lost a lot of weight since going primal although I've been pretty heavy with my carbs though, just feel healthier that way, more energetic and less headachey. I've lost a few pounds alright and have way more muscle definition on my abs but I'm no stick insect that's for sure. But then that's largely genetic anyway, we're curvy girls who like our food in my family (and between us we've tried every diet going) so there's not much point my trying to fight that battle. 0 -
Yeah my carbs are around 50g/day so I am doing a low-carb version of primal. Eg, very little fruit. Can't say I've noticed any difference in weight, in fact I'm exactly the same weight as before. I used to be a stone lighter and would love to get back there but I'm definitely doing something wrong. Maybe just too many calories overall or too much dairy/too few vegetables?Do you count your macronutrient intake at all? I can't say I've lost a lot of weight since going primal although I've been pretty heavy with my carbs though, just feel healthier that way, more energetic and less headachey. I've lost a few pounds alright and have way more muscle definition on my abs but I'm no stick insect that's for sure. But then that's largely genetic anyway, we're curvy girls who like our food in my family (and between us we've tried every diet going) so there's not much point my trying to fight that battle.0 -
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Wow ya 50g is low, I'd be around 150 I reckon. I find dairy makes me put on weight very very fast and always stalls any loss for me, even when I have some that needs losing. I don't know if it's some bioactive component of the dairy itself, bioactive peptides or something along those lines.. it also gives me spots 0
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Thanks Oh I hear you on the dairy front, I grew up on farmhouse cheddar and chutney sandwichs every single day of my childhood. One of my nicest memories is of getting to taste a little bit of each of the cheese's on my dads annual christmas cheese board I can't eat eggs either to make matters even worse! I ate an egg yolk yesterday (couldnt' resist) and was really ill for the rest of the day! I'd say replace the dairy with eggs and coconut milk!Not sure what exactly I'm following but maybe you guys know better. Have read up a little bit on paleo and have taken some advice etc from it. Some days my diet looks like this:
Breakfast - 3 or 4 full eggs, usually poached, and some fried 'low fat' bacon (Tesco healthy living stuff usually), fried in rapeseed oil.
Snacks throughout the day - Apples/Oranges/Bananas/Avocado/Almonds/Cashews/Brazil Nuts
Lunch - Sometimes a chicken salad with baby spinach, peppers, nuts and with walnut oil poured over
Dinner - Anything really. Steak/Pork chops/Chicken/whatever...with a large bag of frozen veg from Tesco all mashed up.
Struggling to add more stuff in but I need to as I'm 13.5 stone and don't really want to go below that. Also I've no idea what to eat before and after the gym (weight lifting fwiw).
That's very primal indeed! My boyfriend is tiny and really struggles to maintain the minimum weight advised for his height. I feed him lots of eggs, potatoes, root veg, bananas, butter and coconut milk and he's put on about a stone (thank god!) and now weighs about 8 and 1/2 stone which is great for him. A shake of protein powder, coconut milk and bananas is a good work out snack! I'd also increasse you fat intake I get the impression your diet doesn't include a lot.0 -
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Red Cortina wrote: »Or will the damage that I have done to my health still mean that I am destined to suffer from all those auto-immune diseases associated with gluten sensitivity/celiac disease not to mention the affects of whatever nutritional deficiencies I have had.
Diagnosed celiacs that are gluten free (and by the time you get to have Iga antibodies spilling into your bloodstream you have severely damaged a good portion of your gut) have a 47% reduced risk of cancer, go figure. They do have a 38% increased risk of heart disease but I bet any money that's from decreased absorption of fat soluble vitamins (K2, A, D, E), all of which have inverse association with atherosclerosis. The human body is wonderfully resiliant, if people can get to age 80 eating white bread and smoking, I'm sure we're ahead of the game even with a little bit of prior indiscretion.
I hate to play correlations as evidence of anything but I can't help but notice that wheat correlated with cancer in the re-analysis of the china study too...hmmmm..doesn't gluten increase your body's need for vitamin D?0 -
Thanks Oh I hear you on the dairy front, I grew up on farmhouse cheddar and chutney sandwichs every single day of my childhood. One of my nicest memories is of getting to taste a little bit of each of the cheese's on my dads annual christmas cheese board I can't eat eggs either to make matters even worse! I ate an egg yolk yesterday (couldnt' resist) and was really ill for the rest of the day! I'd say replace the dairy with eggs and coconut milk!
That's very primal indeed! My boyfriend is tiny and really struggles to maintain the minimum weight advised for his height. I feed him lots of eggs, potatoes, root veg, bananas, butter and coconut milk and he's put on about a stone (thank god!) and now weighs about 8 and 1/2 stone which is great for him. A shake of protein powder, coconut milk and bananas is a good work out snack! I'd also increasse you fat intake I get the impression your diet doesn't include a lot.
Thanks for the feedback. I'm going to stay away from potatoes and the like, even if they're nice and high in calories, I'm just trying to cut out all that food for the moment. Where do you get good coconut milk? Also, that's the shake you'll have immediately after training - what would you recommend as a meal, say, one hour after this shake? Bearing in mind no rice/pasta/potatoes will be involved!
Think my fat intake is quite high actually - butter, walnut oil, just picked up some flax seed oil today, cook my stuff in rapeseed oil, eat almonds/cashews/brazil nuts...0 -
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Wow, it's great to read all that and certainly makes me feel a bit lot better:)El_Dangeroso wrote: »Diagnosed celiacs that are gluten free (and by the time you get to have Iga antibodies spilling into your bloodstream you have severely damaged a good portion of your gut) have a 47% reduced risk of cancer, go figure. They do have a 38% increased risk of heart disease but I bet any money that's from decreased absorption of fat soluble vitamins (K2, A, D, E), all of which have inverse association with atherosclerosis. The human body is wonderfully resiliant, if people can get to age 80 eating white bread and smoking, I'm sure we're ahead of the game even with a little bit of prior indiscretion.
I hate to play correlations as evidence of anything but I can't help but notice that wheat correlated with cancer in the re-analysis of the china study too...hmmmm..doesn't gluten increase your body's need for vitamin D?
When I look at my mam and see her at 67 years of age with high blood pressure, shortness of breath, an out of wack thyroid, no energy, asthma (but only when she bakes bread:rolleyes:), adult acne (not now but well into her 30's) and alopecia to list her complaints that I know of, I know that I definitely don't want to live my life into old age like that with such poor health. I know for a fact that she has at least one gluten intolerent gene (cause she passed it on to me:)) and based on the aliments listed above, she is has not done well on gluten. Reading all that I have done on gluten and how it wrecks your body, seeing my own health drastically improve by eliminating gluten, reading the above post that I have quoted and seeing the long term effects of gluten intolerence by looking at my mam strengthens my decision to avoid gluten:)0
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