Good areas in Tallaght

thebourke · 04-10-2010 2:04pm #1

what are the good parts.area's in tallaght to buy a house in?

listermint · 04-10-2010 2:08pm

Depends, what are you looking for? amenities etc?

Firhouse / Kingswood / Belgard / Balrothery

thebourke · 04-10-2010 2:19pm

close to shops,pubs,gym etc....

thebourke · 04-10-2010 2:20pm

and close to public transport

mikemac · 04-10-2010 2:21pm

Kilnamanagh

D3PO · 04-10-2010 2:55pm

listermint wrote: »

Depends, what are you looking for? amenities etc?

Firhouse / Kingswood / Belgard / Balrothery

Firhouse is not Tallaght

D3PO · 04-10-2010 2:56pm

I would say Kilnamanagh, Kingswood & Old Bawn

CiaranC · 04-10-2010 3:01pm

D3PO wrote: »

Firhouse is not Tallaght

Yes it is.

Most of Tallaght is fine, the areas mentioned plus Old Bawn, Aylesbury, most of Millbrook Lawns. Most of Springfield is fine too. The area is very well serviced by public transport.

thebourke · 04-10-2010 3:09pm

are there villages in those areas?or is all just housing estates?

andreac · 04-10-2010 3:15pm

CiaranC wrote: »

Yes it is.

Most of Tallaght is fine, the areas mentioned plus Old Bawn, Aylesbury, most of Millbrook Lawns. Most of Springfield is fine too. The area is very well serviced by public transport.

No its not, Tallaght is the other side of the river which Firhouse is not, so it is not Tallaght.
Firhouse is Dublin 24, but is not Tallaght.

CiaranC · 04-10-2010 3:16pm

Each estate tends to have its own centre with a SuperValu/Lidl/Aldi, Newsagent, Chemist, Butchers and other shops. The main commercial district in Tallaght would then be based around The Square and adjoining retail parks.

CiaranC · 04-10-2010 3:24pm

andreac wrote: »

No its not, Tallaght is the other side of the river which Firhouse is not, so it is not Tallaght.

Does this mean The Mill, Old Bawn shopping centre and Ballycragh arent in Tallaght either?

Of course not.

D.Craftsman · 04-10-2010 3:33pm

Hi Folks, Would people ever get real!Tallaght is Tallaght, Firhouse is Firhouse,Old Bawn is Old Bawn,etc etc etc.That is why they have different names.Dublin 24 is a post code.To Thebourke.Before I moved to Old Bawn I had no idea how good an area it can be.Do as I did.Spend a day walking around the part you think you might live in.Speak to people, visit it at night.Talk to estate agents and view different houses.I have lived in a few parts of the city, some with great addresses, there is good and bad all over.

CiaranC · 04-10-2010 3:37pm

Hold on, Old Bawn is not in Tallaght now?

D3PO · 04-10-2010 3:40pm

CiaranC wrote: »

Yes it is.

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Firhouse is not in tallaght it shares the same postcode.

Whats next your going to tell me that Sandyford is in Foxrock because they also share a postcode :rolleyes:

thebourke · 04-10-2010 3:44pm

thanks for the info...its just i am not too familiar with tallaght..thats why i asked the questions...

super_furry · 04-10-2010 3:47pm

Belgard, Kingswood, Old Bawn, Kilnamanagh and Firhouse are all really good areas. Belgard and Kingswood probably the best and quietest of them all and both on the LUAS line too.

D3PO · 04-10-2010 3:48pm

thebourke wrote: »

i am not too familiar with tallaght..thats why i asked the questions...

seems like many on here arent either going by their answers !!

Da GOAT · 04-10-2010 4:00pm

firhouse is tallaght, jeez people.

talla10 · 04-10-2010 4:05pm

D3PO wrote: »

Firhouse is not Tallaght

YES IT IS!!!!!

Firhouse is Dublin.24 which is Tallaght!!I know you were prob joking (?) but i HATE it when Firhouse resident think they live in templeogue, knocklyon etc. They all live in Tallaght. Sorry but u do do.:P

Anyway OP getting back to your point Old Bawn is a nice quiet area close to everything. Also Ellensborough in Kiltipper is a quiet estate but is small walk away from decent pubs/shops/restaurants

MagicMarker · 04-10-2010 4:07pm

Yep, Firhouse is Tallaght, sorry to disappoint all you Firhouse dwellers.

seamus · 04-10-2010 4:09pm

talla10 wrote: »

Firhouse is Dublin.24 which is Tallaght!!

Um...Dublin 24 is not Tallaght. Tallaght is in Dublin 24.
Just like Dublin 16 is not Templeogue or Rathfarnham or Whitechurch.

Next you'll be claiming that the Phoenix Park is in Dolphin's Barn. (Both Dublin 8)

CiaranC · 04-10-2010 4:12pm

Im sure an ordinance survey map could shed some light.

For those claiming Firhouse (nice area btw OP :P) is its own townland, where is the border? Cos it sure aint The Dodder, as Ive previously pointed out.

*edit* I think if the average income for an area hits a certain level you automatically get removed from Tallaght! Kingswood and Belgard would be at it too, except they would only get to move to D22, so no point.

talla10 · 04-10-2010 4:14pm

seamus wrote: »

Um...Dublin 24 is not Tallaght. Tallaght is in Dublin 24.
Just like Dublin 16 is not Templeogue or Rathfarnham or Whitechurch.

Templeogue is Dublin 6e and Rathfarnham and Whitechurch are both dublin 14. Firhouse is in Tallaght i'm sorry if your too stuck up/posh/embarrassed to admit it but if you live in Firhouse you live in Tallaght. I cant see your arguement it cant be a debate...its FACT!!!If ya want to pretend ya live in a better place thats not in tallaght go ahead if ya sleep better at night...but when ya wake up YOUR IN TALLAGHT!!!(if ya live in Firhouse....Dublin.24...Tallaght...:P)

D3PO · 04-10-2010 4:15pm

talla10 wrote: »

YES IT IS!!!!!

Firhouse is Dublin.24 which is Tallaght!!I know you were prob joking (?) but i HATE it when Firhouse resident think they live in templeogue, knocklyon etc. They all live in Tallaght. Sorry but u do do.:P

Anyway OP getting back to your point Old Bawn is a nice quiet area close to everything. Also Ellensborough in Kiltipper is a quiet estate but is small walk away from decent pubs/shops/restaurants

Do you want a history lesson ?

You logic is ill informed. POSTCODES ARE SHARED .

Firhouse is D24 Tallaght is D24
Sandyford is D18 Foxrock is D18
Blanchardstown is D15 Castleknock is D15

NONE of these are the same places :rolleyes:

As for a history lesson.

The area know as Firhouse was originally classed as Templeogue in the 1970's. The area then became to large to manage under a single postcode system and became Firhouse D16, following this in the 1980's Firhouse was incorporated into the Dublin 24 postcode.

p.s Im not from Firhouse Im from Templeogue but I hate how people think that one postcode = one area because that is not how postcodes work.

Nobody is saying Firhouse is Knocklyon or Templeogue. They are saying its Firhouse

D3PO · 04-10-2010 4:20pm

talla10 wrote: »

Templeogue is Dublin 6e )

eh no its not Templeogue is D6W or D6 West. Again showing how you havent a clue how areas are classified :rolleyes:

Another history lesson for you. Templeogue was originally Dublin 6. They tried to reclassify it to Dublin 12 but due to political pressure from the residents which essentially was nothing but snobbery they decided to create a unique postcode for it Dublin 6 West.

IF it had of been reclassified as Dublin 12 Templeogue would still have been templeogue. It wouldnt all of a sudden have become Walkinston. Which would seem to be your logic :rolleyes:

seamus · 04-10-2010 4:23pm

Actually, going by the very old townland maps, there's no such place as Firhouse - it's called Tymon South.

Quite a small place overall, roughly covering the area around the old convent school and across to the community college. Much of what we call Firhouse is actually Killininey on the west and Knocklyon on the east. The southern part of Firhouse is covered mainly by Ballycragh, Oldcourt and Ballycullen, though many people consider the Oldcourt/Ballycullen townlands now to be Ballycullen, distinct from Firhouse.

The Tallaght townland is enormous alright, but it definitely doesn't include Firhouse or Old Bawn.

helimachoptor · 04-10-2010 4:25pm

D3PO wrote: »

Sandyford is D18 Foxrock is D18

Is Foxrock not Co. Dublin?

talla10 · 04-10-2010 4:27pm

D3PO wrote: »

Do you want a history lesson ?

As for a history lesson.

The area know as Firhouse was originally classed as Templeogue in the 1970's. The area then became to large to manage under a single postcode system and became Firhouse D16, following this in the 1980's Firhouse was incorporated into the Dublin 24 postcode.

p.s Im not from Firhouse Im from Templeogue but I hate how people think that one postcode = one area because that is not how postcodes work.

Districts

The greater Tallaght area comprises several districts. Some areas, such as Templeogue and Knocklyon were historically separate (and physically disconnected) while others like Firhouse have been part of Tallaght parish for centuries. These, and a number of other distinct places and villages are now accumulated within "Greater Tallaght," and exist under local authority structures, as the electoral area of "Tallaght South."

There's your history lesson :rolleyes:

talla10 · 04-10-2010 4:28pm

D3PO wrote: »

eh no its not Templeogue is D6W or D6 West. Again showing how you havent a clue how areas are classified :rolleyes:

I mixed up W and E sorry :eek:

super_furry · 04-10-2010 4:30pm

seamus wrote: »

The Tallaght townland is enormous alright, but it definitely doesn't include Firhouse or Old Bawn.

I'm afraid you're wrong there. Old Bawn is without doubt, part of Tallaght.

CiaranC · 04-10-2010 4:32pm

This is an interesting conversation here.

D3PO wrote:

Another history lesson for you. Templeogue was originally Dublin 6. They tried to reclassify it to Dublin 12 but due to political pressure from the residents which essentially was nothing but snobbery they decided to create a unique postcode for it Dublin 6 West.

An areas postcode has nothing to do with it. You cant "move" an area by changing its postcode.

I was born and raised in Old Bawn. Old Bawn, Tallaght, Dublin 24. Technically it has its own townland too and is not part of the Tallaght townland, but there has never been any snobbishness about being part of modern Tallaght there, unlike in Firhouse.

You can see the townlands here:

http://maps.epa.ie/InternetMapViewer/MapViewer.aspx

Seems to only work in IE

seamus · 04-10-2010 4:32pm

super_furry wrote: »

I'm afraid you're wrong there. Old Bawn is without doubt, part of Tallaght.

Not going by the old maps. Old Bawn was a townland distinct if itself, way bigger than Tallaght - covered Kiltipper and pretty much all of the area between the N81 and Bohernbreena.

There seems to be this desire on the part of Tallaght dwellers to have their area expand continually and consume every area around it. I can remember people arguing years ago that Knocklyon didn't exist and was part of Tallaght. :rolleyes:

talla10 · 04-10-2010 4:32pm

super_furry wrote: »

I'm afraid you're wrong there. Old Bawn is without doubt, part of Tallaght.

+ 1 Im from old bawn and old bawn is certainly tallaght!!the old bawn road runs from tallaght village!!

D3PO · 04-10-2010 4:33pm

talla10 wrote: »

Districts

The greater Tallaght area comprises several districts. Some areas, such as Templeogue and Knocklyon were historically separate (and physically disconnected) while others like Firhouse have been part of Tallaght parish for centuries. These, and a number of other distinct places and villages are now accumulated within "Greater Tallaght," and exist under local authority structures, as the electoral area of "Tallaght South."

There's your history lesson :rolleyes:

"greater" tallaght area greater is a laughable term. Naas in in the "greater" dublin area that doesnt make it Dublin :rolleyes:

and if your seriously trying to argue electoral borders which are set by the electoral reform commision based on the electorate numbers in a given area and change every few years has any bearing your deluded :rolleyes:

2 words ordinance survey. Just read Seamus's post.

CiaranC · 04-10-2010 4:34pm

super_furry wrote: »

I'm afraid you're wrong there. Old Bawn is without doubt, part of Tallaght.

By the same argument people from Firhouse use to say they are not from Tallaght, it is not. That argument is, of course, nonsense.

super_furry · 04-10-2010 4:36pm

seamus wrote: »

Not going by the old maps. Old Bawn was a townland distinct if itself, way bigger than Tallaght - covered Kiltipper and pretty much all of the area between the N81 and Bohernbreena.

Arses to the old maps, if we go by the old maps then all of Tallaght, Knocklyon and Firhouse are in the UK.

Old Bawn is in Tallaght, this is indisputable.

talla10 · 04-10-2010 4:37pm

D3PO wrote: »

"greater" tallaght area greater is a laughable term. Naas in in the "greater" dublin area that doesnt make it Dublin :rolleyes:
.

Not my words i quoted from south dublin website link wont work for some reason.

CiaranC · 04-10-2010 4:37pm

super_furry wrote: »

Arses to the old maps, if we go by the old maps then all of Tallaght, Knocklyon and Firhouse are in the UK.

Old Bawn is in Tallaght, this is indisputable.

If Old Bawn is in Tallaght, then so is Firhouse. QED. :P

talla10 · 04-10-2010 4:40pm

CiaranC wrote: »

If Old Bawn is in Tallaght, then so is Firhouse. QED. :P

yep but snobbery remains rife obviously!!think were gettin off OP point but Firhouse is also a lovely place to live..in tallaght :P

Mr McBoatface · 04-10-2010 6:44pm

: ***THIS ISNT A QUOTE IM THINKING OUT LOAD*** --- MENTAL NOTE TO MYSELF .... USE OLD MAPS wrote:

If I use an old map then I'm not originally from Killinarden in Tallaght, I'm actually from Killinarden in Whitestown, that sounds so much better . http://www.southdublinhistory.ie/tal_map_duncan.htm?counter=1

I remember one housing estate in Tallaght when built maybe about 10 years ago being advertised as being in "Saggart", property in and near that locality now being advertises as "Citywest" example - http://www.daft.ie/searchsale.daft?id=559399 .

For the OP, Tallaght is actually a very nice place once you get outside of the "scum" area's which to be honest look like ****-holes so you'll avoid them anyway. Personally I really like the Oldbawn, Aylesbury, Ellensbrough, Oldcourt area's, Kingwood and Belgard are nice too. It all depends on your budget is and what type of accommodation you are looking for.

Mr. Loverman · 04-10-2010 9:25pm

I live in Tallaght. Overall it's a bit of a kip and has a lot of skangers.

Kingswood is ok if a bit soulless.

Personally I would go the extra 5 minutes down the road to Rathcoole or Saggart.

spr · 05-10-2010 5:49pm

Mr. Loverman wrote: »

I live in Tallaght. Overall it's a bit of a kip and has a lot of skangers.

Kingswood is ok if a bit soulless.

Personally I would go the extra 5 minutes down the road to Rathcoole or Saggart.

+1

I lived in Tallaght for a couple of years, but didnt like it. You might find some people are okay/nice but loads of them are skangers and they dont care how you feel/think.

Kingswood is alright though you dont want to go near the pub & the chipper there as the teenagers might harass you and also the noise comes from Belgard at night on the weekend.

Good luck!

talla10 · 05-10-2010 11:05pm

Mr. Loverman wrote: »

I live in Tallaght. Overall it's a bit of a kip and has a lot of skangers.

Kingswood is ok if a bit soulless.

Personally I would go the extra 5 minutes down the road to Rathcoole or Saggart.

I've lived in Tallaght my whole life (26 years) first at home then i bought a house in Kiltipper never had any problems at all. There are a lot of rough estates and scum in west Tallaght but not everyone there is scum. There are loads of lovely areas of tallaght that ya will have little or no hassle like old bawn, ellensborough, seskin view, firhouse etc

djimi · 05-10-2010 11:23pm

I was born in and grew up in Aylesbury but havent lived there in a long time. Its nice to see it getting positive press from folk in this thread

As for the "its in Tallaght/not in Tallaght" debate; when I lived in Aylesbury I was always of the impression that Old Bawn was not technically Tallaght but it was just considered to be a part of Tallaght all the same. Same goes for Firhouse. Im not sure what this was based on but it seemed to be the general consensus 20 years ago.

listermint · 07-10-2010 2:57pm

Anyway back to the OP

Kilnamagh Belgard Kingswood are all equally ON the Luas line. and they each have local shops. in Kilnamanaghs instance is happens to be larger Dunnes Stores with adjoining retail outlets.

Visit each, see what you think. Im from Tallaght. Firhouse / Tallaght who cares.. but firhouse doesnt have the Luas line

knighted_1 · 07-10-2010 10:28pm

my three cents worth

hopefully this will settle the debate

you judge were your area is by where your MAIN post office is ,not your local one ,your main one .

in the case of firhouse i believe it is tallaght ?

this has been superceded by (bear in mind we are in a recession ) where you sign one (unemployment) do people in firhouse sign on in firhouse or do they sign on in tallaght ?

hopefully this case is rested

D3PO · 08-10-2010 10:18am

knighted_1 wrote: »

my three cents worth

hopefully this will settle the debate

you judge were your area is by where your MAIN post office is ,not your local one ,your main one .

in the case of firhouse i believe it is tallaght ?

this has been superceded by (bear in mind we are in a recession ) where you sign one (unemployment) do people in firhouse sign on in firhouse or do they sign on in tallaght ?

hopefully this case is rested

I assume you mean your sorting office and no you dont. That would mean for example that Templegue is in Terenue as the "MAIN" post office i.e sorting office is in Wainsfort.

Thats completly random and not how you judge an area.

As for being superceded by where you sign on

I may be wrong beacuse luckily Ive never had to sign on you can do so in any postoffice, which therfore makes that point invalid.

anyway were way off topic here

knighted_1 · 08-10-2010 1:49pm

D3PO wrote: »

I assume you mean your sorting office and no you dont. That would mean for example that Templegue is in Terenue as the "MAIN" post office i.e sorting office is in Wainsfort.

Thats completly random and not how you judge an area.

As for being superceded by where you sign on I may be wrong beacuse luckily Ive never had to sign on you can do so in any postoffice, which therfore makes that point invalid.

anyway were way off topic here

you assume wrong im not talking about sorting mail ,im talking about main post office ,obviously you arnt aware of such a thing so you shouldnt comment or assume things

thankfully ,like yourself ,i as yet have not had to avail of a weekly government grand but where did i say you sign on at a post office ?

there is a social services office in tallaght where people sign on . the point was do firhouse people sign on in tallaght or templeogue or knocklyon etc

thanks for taking the time to reply to my post which was part jest to the affluent people of firhouse .

D3PO · 08-10-2010 3:05pm

knighted_1 wrote: »

thanks for taking the time to reply to my post which was part jest to the affluent people of firhouse .

its Friday and Im bored what can i say

P.S Im not from Firhouse Im from Templeogue. Just making a point :cool:

knighted_1 · 08-10-2010 4:37pm

D3PO wrote: »

its Friday and Im bored what can i say

P.S Im not from Firhouse Im from Templeogue. Just making a point :cool:

people from templeogue are ok . at least yis know where yis come from

:)

Good areas in Tallaght

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