Homemade whey brownies- can I bake whey?

kaji · 17-10-2010 11:31PM #1

Homemade whey brownies- can I bake whey?

I put oats, cocoa powder, peanut butter, 6 scoops of whey and a few nuts and raisins into a big tin, mixed them all together with some water and then stuck them in the oven for about 15 minutes.

They were solid enough when I took them out and taste lovely, they'll be handy for snacking on.

Only question is- am I destroying the whey by having it in the oven?

EileenG · 17-10-2010 11:42PM

No. You can cook whey. I'd be inclined to put a bit of baking powder into that recipe. Maybe an egg?

kaji · 18-10-2010 12:21AM

Just wondering- what difference would an egg make? I'm a baking newbie!:D

Mellor · 18-10-2010 02:34AM

Would act as a binder, help holding it together so you don't just end up with a sort of baked museli

overhand_right · 18-10-2010 07:26AM

I use low fat milk and cookies and cream whey peanut butter oats and coca powder mix it all together and eat it straight out of the bowl defo worth a go

Transform · 18-10-2010 12:58PM

I go for uncooked and nothing artificial in them paleo energy bars - totalllll winner.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUtTnmGLDHA

Making them with whey just makes them really hard IMO. I say save your whey for drinks and make those.

They are full of good fats, protein and way low in carbs (no need for the oats or lots of dried fruit just a little dried fruit or none if you so want)- plus the chocolate is extra great in them. Everyone that has tried them over the last month i have been making them think they are delish.

Just a thought

The Guvnor · 18-10-2010 02:15PM

Baking protein is fine - however whey or casein is not the best option as it is quite dry.

There is a company that bakes protein bars but A) they are expensive and

not as high in % protein as one would expect and C) they will not divulge their technique!

I myself would love a 100g bar with 60g of protein in it but being honest my mouth would get a great workout as it would be 'chewy'.

Not watched the video below but how high in protein are they Dominic?

Transform · 18-10-2010 02:25PM

No idea and must work it out in next day or so - its mainly nuts, nut butter, coconut flakes, coconut oil and some dark chocolate, you could drop the dried fruit to make it all protein and good fats

Maars · 19-10-2010 07:55AM

Transform wrote: »

I go for uncooked and nothing artificial in them paleo energy bars - totalllll winner.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUtTnmGLDHA

Making them with whey just makes them really hard IMO. I say save your whey for drinks and make those.

They are full of good fats, protein and way low in carbs (no need for the oats or lots of dried fruit just a little dried fruit or none if you so want)- plus the chocolate is extra great in them. Everyone that has tried them over the last month i have been making them think they are delish.

Just a thought

Glad to see you leave your shirt on when baking.
I figured you just took it off 2 minutes into everything you do..kind of like an undressing tourette's..

Bottle_of_Smoke · 19-10-2010 08:19AM

Mellor wrote: »

Would act as a binder, help holding it together so you don't just end up with a sort of baked museli

Probably make them tastier too

TommyKnocker · 19-10-2010 11:22AM

Maars wrote: »

Glad to see you leave your shirt on when baking.
I figured you just took it off 2 minutes into everything you do..kind of like an undressing tourette's..

Tbh, if I had or ever achieve Transforms physique I would/will be shirtless at every oppertunity

:D:D

M

Transform · 19-10-2010 11:24AM

Maars wrote: »

Glad to see you leave your shirt on when baking.
I figured you just took it off 2 minutes into everything you do..kind of like an undressing tourette's..

Do not speek to soon man next videos i have planned involve some Adonis McShirtoff

Roger Marbles · 19-10-2010 11:32AM

Transform wrote: »

Do not speek to soon man next videos i have planned involve some Adonis McShirtoff

Haha....hilarious videos.

The Guvnor · 19-10-2010 01:16PM

Maars wrote: »

Glad to see you leave your shirt on when baking.
I figured you just took it off 2 minutes into everything you do..kind of like an undressing tourette's..

LMAO!:D Back to the whey/paleo bars now.

FastFullBack · 19-10-2010 05:34PM

Transform wrote: »

I go for uncooked and nothing artificial in them paleo energy bars - totalllll winner.

Making them with whey just makes them really hard IMO. I say save your whey for drinks and make those.

They are full of good fats, protein and way low in carbs (no need for the oats or lots of dried fruit just a little dried fruit or none if you so want)- plus the chocolate is extra great in them. Everyone that has tried them over the last month i have been making them think they are delish.

Just a thought

Transform, where did you get the coconut oil? Tried tesco and holland & barrett. Holland & Barrett have this http://www.hollandandbarrett.ie/pages/product_detail.asp?pid=690 but not sure if this is what I need.

Transform · 19-10-2010 07:23PM

FastFullBack wrote: »

Transform, where did you get the coconut oil? Tried tesco and holland & barrett. Holland & Barrett have this http://www.hollandandbarrett.ie/pages/product_detail.asp?pid=690 but not sure if this is what I need.

any asian or indian shop will have it.

the one you posted is great but wayyyyy over priced

Mellor · 20-10-2010 03:14AM

Did you ever do a calc for protein, or did anyone.

From a quick look, i'd say it probaby isn't that high, looks to be mostly fats (obviously good fats.

Oh, and Guvnor, the highest protein per 100g i've seen was the 60g you requested.
Good, old fashioned, beef jerky is 60g (inferior stuff is lower due to added sugars)

Transform · 20-10-2010 07:26AM

Mellor wrote: »

Did you ever do a calc for protein, or did anyone.

From a quick look, i'd say it probaby isn't that high, looks to be mostly fats (obviously good fats.

Oh, and Guvnor, the highest protein per 100g i've seen was the 60g you requested.
Good, old fashioned, beef jerky is 60g (inferior stuff is lower due to added sugars)

To be honest i dont care - I eat it i feel good on them, i train well and recover well with them, they are 100% natural and uncooked.

Thats all win in my book so much like people worrying about body fat scores etc I say - who cares cause did you make them yet?

The Guvnor · 20-10-2010 09:50AM

Mellor wrote: »

Oh, and Guvnor, the highest protein per 100g i've seen was the 60g you requested.
Good, old fashioned, beef jerky is 60g (inferior stuff is lower due to added sugars)

Oz Jerky though! Lower over here iirc. How salty?

You can get 60% protein bars so 60gram per 100 but they are hard n dry.

Just to say as well the protein that makes the best/tastiest bars may not necessarily be the protein you would choose to consume if you had the choice.

Must check out the jerky. My OH will check out the paleo bars as I am not overly fond of nuts.

Naos · 20-10-2010 10:56AM

In work so have not listened to the video, but going to make this at home tomorrow.

Look forward to the Adonis videos!

Mellor · 21-10-2010 05:00AM

Transform wrote: »

To be honest i dont care - I eat it i feel good on them, i train well and recover well with them, they are 100% natural and uncooked.

Thats all win in my book so much like people worrying about body fat scores etc I say - who cares cause did you make them yet?

lol Transform, defensive much?

Where did I say they were bad?
Where did I say the fat was bad? In fact, I specificly said it was good so as not to look like I was putting them down. Clearly your a bit touchy today.

FYI, I think they are fine. All good fats, non baked doesn't matter to me personally, but natural is great. Very low sugar. But the thread was about protein bars, I was pointing out that these aren't that high in protein, which you labeled them as. Energy bars I do agree with. They are prob quite high in energy, would make good snacks.

And i haven't made them, only because i'd prob eat the whole tray.

The Guvnor wrote: »

Oz Jerky though! Lower over here iirc. How salty?

You can get 60% protein bars so 60gram per 100 but they are hard n dry.

Biltong is generally a better bet, tends to be much cleaner than jerky. The stuff from biltiong.ie is 55% protein. These are tough and chewy, but not like protein bars. More like something you get to fight through.
I like them, but dried beef isn't for everyone.
http://www.biltong.ie/biltongie_nutrition.html

This one is prob a little bit softer, defo better if it was somebody first time.
The tender bite nuggets are pretty good, original flavour is just below 50% protein, with little fats or carbs.
The other two lines are more varied, they have a sugar based marinade so the carbs are 20-25% I think.

http://www.wildwestjerky.co.uk/products.htm

Transform · 21-10-2010 06:24AM

sorry man i was not being touchy at all just making a point that came across strongly.

I promise to consume less coffee today!

This is the point i was badly making and i know we are singing off the same hymn sheet also-

1. Most guys (mainly guys in particular) over analyse their protein intake especially when looking to gain weight when the more important point with weight gain is increased calorie intake. Take a guy that needs to bump calorie intake up to 3,000cals per day and is currently on 2,500cals but no change in his weight, he reads that eating a ton more protein is vital (its not really and no you do not need to take protein drinks) and cutting out all carbs and fats is good (not a good idea in the slightest unless those fats and carbs are coming from poor sources).

The overall net effect is the guy just removes certain food groups and replaces when with another with the overall net effect of still staying at 2,500cals, thus no weight gain despite the increased protein intake

2. Everyone could do with getting in wayy more good fats

3. All protein foods (meat, dairy, eggs etc) are acidic so creating a bar that is based around a more neutral balance is another win for me rather than the ususal overloading of protein into your diet i.e. lets see how much protein i can get in rather than looking at the whole picture.

4. I agree many people might need to up the protein intake in their diet but by just upping protein to say 50-70% of total calorie intake IMO is just as bad as having your diet 70% carbs.

Hope that helps and i just prefer to put out something that seems to work better that i have tried and tested with lots of people rather than other bars i have made in the past that did not work as well for me and my clients. The bars i recommend are and option just like other mentioned so what the reader should do (this goes for all foods) is make all variations, eat them and see how you feel - more energetic, better recovery or tired, drained and needing to eat sooner.

Have about 5 bags of the biltong left to eat - its one of those foods that i know is a good snack option but when it comes down to it would do for the paleo bars every time.

danlen · 21-10-2010 05:21PM

Transform wrote: »

Everyone could do with getting in wayy more good fats

Good point.

Just as a matter of interest, do you feel people should be looking at taking in a certain amount of fat per day? A certain % of calories or x grams of fats? At what point do you start see diminishing returns for increased fat intake?

amg-slurp · 21-10-2010 08:56PM

Made a batch of Transforms bars last night.
Tastes like a macaroon bar! Savage!

Mellor · 22-10-2010 02:38AM

Transform wrote: »

protein v fat post

Agree completely. I always say that it's a great fault of the english language that "fat" is used for both being overweight and the essential oils in our diet.

I remember reading an interview with one of the contenders for worlds strongest man. He was asked what was the hardest part of his training. His answer-
-"eating enough"

He said his diet might look terrible on paper, but its the only way to get all the cals needed into him. A common meal was a pizza with a couple of 100mls of olive oil poured over.

Have about 5 bags of the biltong left to eat - its one of those foods that i know is a good snack option but when it comes down to it would do for the paleo bars every time.

I think i'd love the paleo bars, huge fan of nuts and coconut. BUT, being of a deficit at the moment its prob not a good idea to make a batch. I don't even buy nut butters anymore as I'm addicted to the stuff, just disappears

The likes of biltong are good for bordom snackers imo, as they can take a bit of work to get through, a small bit lasts a whole movie etc
But it's not a great pre or post gym snack

Transform · 22-10-2010 06:05AM

danlen wrote: »

Good point.

Just as a matter of interest, do you feel people should be looking at taking in a certain amount of fat per day? A certain % of calories or x grams of fats? At what point do you start see diminishing returns for increased fat intake?

about 30% is what i get most clients to shoot for - if they have more body fat to drop or are in a deficit then increasing up to 40% can help. All coming from good fats

Leax · 23-10-2010 11:46AM

FastFullBack wrote: »

Transform, where did you get the coconut oil? Tried tesco and holland & barrett. Holland & Barrett have this http://www.hollandandbarrett.ie/pages/product_detail.asp?pid=690 but not sure if this is what I need.

The SuperValu near me has Cocowel organic coconut oil, 500ml, for €4.99, saw it in a smaller local gourmet/fresh produce type shop for €6:99. If you have a Supervalu near you might be worth a check.

Transform · 23-10-2010 05:45PM

Leax wrote: »

The SuperValu near me has Cocowel organic coconut oil, 500ml, for €4.99, saw it in a smaller local gourmet/fresh produce type shop for €6:99. If you have a Supervalu near you might be worth a check.

great tip, cheers

Homemade whey brownies- can I bake whey?

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