really interesting road tax dilemma(2001 car by 2008 CO2 emission road tax)

mrgk · 22-01-2011 10:26PM #1

Hey lads

A question that came to my mind.

what if I buy a 2 litre diesel car with low emissions and the manufacturer year is 2001, but I import it from UK and register it now. would I be able to pay road tax according to my CO2 emissions???

alias no.9 · 22-01-2011 10:29PM

mrgk wrote: »

Hey lads

A question that came to my mind.

what if I buy a 2 litre diesel car with low emissions and the manufacturer year is 2001, but I import it from UK and register it now. would I be able to pay road tax according to my CO2 emissions???

No

mrgk · 22-01-2011 10:30PM

alias no.9 wrote: »

No

but it says cars registered in 2008??? ive heard people importing cars and using it. im just putting it out there see if anyone else heard it or has it been done?!

robtri · 22-01-2011 10:34PM

mrgk wrote: »

but it says cars registered in 2008??? ive heard people importing cars and using it. im just putting it out there see if anyone else heard it or has it been done?!

doesnt matter it goes by orignal forst registration date...
same as the car will get a 2001 reg plate not a 2011 reg plate...

Atlantic Dawn · 22-01-2011 10:47PM

mrgk wrote: »

but it says cars registered in 2008??? ive heard people importing cars and using it. im just putting it out there see if anyone else heard it or has it been done?!

The VRT on cars first registered before is calculated based on emissions but the motor tax is based on cc on pre 2008 cars. 2008 registered cars first registered prior to June 2008 have a choice to go with emissions or cc whichever is cheapest. More details here... www.motortax.ie

hi_im_fil · 22-01-2011 11:08PM

mrgk wrote: »

but it says cars registered in 2008??? ive heard people importing cars and using it. im just putting it out there see if anyone else heard it or has it been done?!

It goes by the date of first registration, which would be the date it was registered in UK if you were importing from UK to Ireland.

Ghost Estate · 22-01-2011 11:31PM

Because the Co2 tax bands are merely subsidies for the rich.

expect Co2 tax bands to go through the roof once '08 and later cars become cheap.

Esel · 24-01-2011 02:41AM

^ Would you ever fup off with that sh!te.

pajor · 24-01-2011 09:53AM

Ghost Estate wrote: »

Because the Co2 tax bands are merely subsidies for the rich.

eg. Range Rover Sport tax

Old system: €1566
New system: €2100
:pac:

BlackWizard · 24-01-2011 10:28AM

I think alot of cars benefited from the new tax system and not just the big Range Rovers.

listermint · 24-01-2011 10:32AM

BlackWizard wrote: »

I think alot of cars benefited from the new tax system and not just the big Range Rovers.

Benefited?? Have you read the post above yours... :rolleyes:

Mr. Presentable · 24-01-2011 10:32AM

pajor wrote: »

eg. Range Rover Sport tax

Old system: €1566
New system: €2100
:pac:

To be fair he said "rich" not tasteless :pac:

E39MSport · 24-01-2011 10:35AM

Mr. Presentable wrote: »

To be fair he said "rich" not tasteless :pac:

LOL - I take offence though

(edit - No I don't)

quad_red · 24-01-2011 10:37AM

But isn't that entire system going to have to be 're calibrated' soon enough though?

As in, once everyone starts moving onto post 2008 low carbon diesels, then the tax take from motor tax will dive.

So the 'average' low carbon car motor tax rate will have to go up to the average pre 2008 rate to maintain Government revenues at a time when the state is broke.

But they can hardly keep increasing the pre 2008 rate (a 1.7 diesel is already at 500 quid plus).

So could we see relative parity in 2/3 years between the cc and carbon tax systems?

(I'm looking at 2006/7 diesels at the moment and trying to weigh up whether it's worth it going the extra money to pay for an 2008 when the motor tax benefits may be gone in 2 years time).

BlackWizard · 24-01-2011 10:58AM

listermint wrote: »

Benefited?? Have you read the post above yours... :rolleyes:

Sorry didn't

Was thinking of the Lexus RXh when I made that

E39MSport · 24-01-2011 10:58AM

Please God put it on the pumps...... (done to death I know but still praying)

si_guru · 24-01-2011 12:06PM

Ghost Estate wrote: »

Because the Co2 tax bands are merely subsidies for the rich.

expect Co2 tax bands to go through the roof once '08 and later cars become cheap.

don't talk bollix.

What about the VRT and VAT paid by these so called "rich" on new cars?

si_guru · 24-01-2011 12:07PM

E39MSport wrote: »

Please God put it on the pumps...... (done to death I know but still praying)

So then we'll be paying "VRT" on everything we buy in Tesco's as hauliers costs go up.

E39MSport · 24-01-2011 12:12PM

Thought about that. I could manage without Tesco tbh. Isn't it the case that if it was a vat hike as opposed to duty the hauliers etc would escape?

si_guru · 24-01-2011 12:18PM

E39MSport wrote: »

Thought about that. I could manage without Tesco tbh. Isn't it the case that if it was a vat hike as opposed to duty the hauliers etc would escape?

Dunno.. but choccie biccies have VAT I think.

mcwhirter · 24-01-2011 07:15PM

My 2 litre turbo diesel has c02 of 165, but because its a 2005 model I pay based on engine size 614 euros compared to 447 euros if based on emissions.

BAD government decisions

si_guru · 24-01-2011 11:00PM

mcwhirter wrote: »

My 2 litre turbo diesel has c02 of 165, but because its a 2005 model I pay based on engine size 614 euros compared to 447 euros if based on emissions.

BAD government decisions

Bad choice by you I think.

mcwhirter · 25-01-2011 12:43AM

si_guru wrote: »

Bad choice by you I think.

Didn't realise cowen was on here. My statement is about the more well off can afford cars that have tax based on c02,while the regular person is stuck paying the higher tax based on engine size, cockface

galwaytt · 25-01-2011 12:45AM

si_guru wrote: »

Bad choice by you I think.

not if you bought it pre -08 it isn't :rolleyes: - unless you have a crystal ball you're not telling us about.....

opinion guy · 25-01-2011 03:02AM

mrgk wrote: »

Hey lads

A question that came to my mind.

what if I buy a 2 litre diesel car with low emissions and the manufacturer year is 2001, but I import it from UK and register it now. would I be able to pay road tax according to my CO2 emissions???

That really is more of a question than a dilemma.....also I object to your misuse of the word 'interesting'......

-Chris- · 25-01-2011 11:33AM

mcwhirter wrote: »

Didn't realise cowen was on here. My statement is about the more well off can afford cars that have tax based on c02,while the regular person is stuck paying the higher tax based on engine size, cockface

Cockface? Take a week off for personal abuse.

Guy:Incognito · 25-01-2011 11:54AM

galwaytt wrote: »

not if you bought it pre -08 it isn't :rolleyes: - unless you have a crystal ball you're not telling us about.....

Whenever he bought it, he bought it knowing the price of motor tax. Whinging that someone else is paying less doesnt change the decision he took in the first place.

mcwhirter wrote: »

Didn't realise cowen was on here. My statement is about the more well off can afford cars that have tax based on c02,while the regular person is stuck paying the higher tax based on engine size, cockface

What about all the high end cars whos motor tax went up post 08? Is that the rich being pandered to again or do we conveniently leave that out? The 150k + or whatever the numbers were of people buying new cars each year over the last decade, were they all rich people? I'll go out on a limb here and say theres been plenty of people buying 2nd hand pre 08 cars for more money than they could have bought a new car on a low tax bracket, the new car may have been small and not what they wanted but it's available cheaper all the same. Are you "rich" if you spend 8-9k on a new Clio or Yaris but a memvber of the poor downtroddden classes if you spend 10k on a 2nd hand 5 series?

really interesting road tax dilemma(2001 car by 2008 CO2 emission road tax)

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