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Romantic or stalkerish?

  • 12-03-2011 11:58AM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 578 ✭✭✭


    It seems to me that this word stalker is being used more and more nowadays to wipe out the efforts of people that want to make gestures that would previously have been seen simply as romantic. Now, there's obviously clear definitions of the hidden-camera-in-the-trees-opposite-your-house type of stalking and surprise-weekend-trip-to-Paris type of romantic gesture but what about in between?

    For example, just say a guy sees a girl he likes in some random place like work or a local shop or whatever (or yes, girl sees guy, before I get basjed for stereotyping, it is AH after all)...he secretly finds out her home address so he can send her flowers as a surprise...is it a romantic thing to do cos he sent flowers? Or is it a stalker thing to do cos he found out her home address?

    Thoughts?

    So is it romantic or stalkerish to find out somebody's address to send them flowers? 135 votes

    Romantic
    0% 0 votes
    Stalkerish
    47% 64 votes
    Back to the Future trilogy FTW
    52% 71 votes


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 106 ✭✭Messi2


    Hes good looking - Aww romantic.
    Hes bad looking - Eww Stalker.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,555 ✭✭✭✭AckwelFoley


    hes only a stalker if he faps into the flowers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 578 ✭✭✭Mammanabammana


    Messi2 wrote: »
    Hes good looking - Aww romantic.
    Hes bad looking - Eww Stalker.

    There may be FAR more truth in this than most people are willing to admit!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,981 ✭✭✭ElleEm


    Definitly stalkerish!
    Sure I have friends for years that I don't know their exact address.

    It also depends on how you intended to "find out" the young woman's address.


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Messi2 wrote: »
    Hes good looking - Aww romantic.
    Hes bad looking - Eww Stalker.
    That's really true... Woman meets man and he is handsome, charming and successful. Romantic.
    Or woman meets man and he posts on boards.ie Stalker.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,077 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    Why send her flowers?

    What's wrong with a good old-fashioned bag of lime? :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,762 ✭✭✭✭stupidusername


    I think the biggest decider here isn't about being good looking or not (although I do agree in some parts with this) it's more here about if you know her or not. I mean if it's a girl you met on the bus then yeah, you should be arrested, but if it's an acquaintance or friend, then not so much.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    Instead of sending flowers he should be in the saddle banging the arse off her.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,123 ✭✭✭Spore


    Blast her with piss


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,884 ✭✭✭Eve_Dublin


    I think it's a romantic gesture...and you're right about the looks. I'd admit that.

    A guy I fancy and had been making eye contact with on a few occasions but haven't spoken to (I was kind of seeing another guy at the time hence doing nothing) recently sent my housemate a message on Facebook (they weren't Facebook friends and he barely knows her) asking her to arrange something where both of us could meet "accidently". He found out she was my housemate by doing a bit of snooping but wouldn't know her at all and he doesn't know me except by sight. Friend of a friend of a friend of a friend type situation.

    Because he's a ride, I'm flattered....if I didn't fancy him, I'd probably think it was a bit weird.

    Shoot me for being human!


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    Sending flowers to a stranger's home address is more stupid than anything else.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    Does she wear impulse?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,597 ✭✭✭Witchie


    Personally, having had a few stalkers (and I mean real ones where Gardai have been informed) I think sending flowers to the house is a no no but wouldnt be so bad if you sent them to her work. That would be less threatening and invasive.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 94,377 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    Why send her flowers?

    What's wrong with a good old-fashioned bag of lime? :confused:
    Tip
    make sure it's quicklime


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,494 ✭✭✭Columbia


    I'd say more stalkerish. Earlier this year some girl found out my mobile phone number from a work contact list and started texting me. I found it very weird, especially when I didn't reply and she kept on doing it for a week or so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,027 ✭✭✭St.Spodo


    I think it's stalkerish if the man persists with the contact when the woman has made it clear she's not interested.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,445 ✭✭✭Absurdum


    He should dress up in black, break into her gaff and leave a box of cheap chocolates and his calling card on the table

    it worked in the 80s


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,073 ✭✭✭sam34


    i would find it quite unsettling if someone found out my home address and contacted me there. as far as i'm concerned, if i want a guy to know where i live, i'll tell him.

    having said that, i think younger girls in particular tend to overuse the word "stalker", in an "omg he's soooo stalking me" way when in fact they just happen to drink in the same pub.

    i've had the real stalker experience, a guy sending me loooooooooooooads of unwanted texts, calls, presents and sleeping in his car outside my house, and it was seriously unnerving.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,435 ✭✭✭wandatowell


    Send her flowers, a mix tape and a 12" dildo.

    Show her your a serious dude that doesnt **** around, she'll love it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,589 ✭✭✭Hail 2 Da Chimp


    Witchie wrote: »
    Personally, having had a few stalkers (and I mean real ones where Gardai have been informed) I think sending flowers to the house is a no no but wouldnt be so bad if you sent them to her work. That would be less threatening and invasive.

    This is something I really don't understand, the whole definition of a stalker is that the persons behaviour is extraordinarily obsessive, so for a person to have "a few" stalkers, there has to be something up with their behavior, either they're leading the "stalker" on, or sending mixed signals.

    I mean I can understand someone getting stalked by 1 person... Getting stalked by 2 people is really pushing it but if a person is continually complaining to the Guards about stalkers, surely they're the one who's bat **** crazy...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,595 ✭✭✭bonerm


    Send her a mix tape

    Ah the mix-tape! One of those rituals that was (thankfully) lost to technological progress.

    I've always wondered (after all the thought and effort that goes into making one) what percentage of mix-tapes actually went unlistened to by their recipient?

    I'd guess 99%


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,653 ✭✭✭✭amdublin


    Witchie wrote: »
    Personally, having had a few stalkers (and I mean real ones where Gardai have been informed) I think sending flowers to the house is a no no but wouldnt be so bad if you sent them to her work. That would be less threatening and invasive.

    Excuse me?!

    You've had the misfortune of having not just one but having had a few stalkers :confused:

    And these few were so bad you had to go to the guards :eek:

    Frankly, I don't believe you.

    Or else I think you are encouraging people and when it goes too far you are shouting wolf/stalker :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,324 ✭✭✭Alter-Ego


    amdublin wrote: »
    Excuse me?!

    You've had the misfortune of having not just one but having had a few stalkers :confused:

    And these few were so bad you had to go to the guards :eek:

    Frankly, I don't believe you.

    Or else I think you are encouraging people and when it goes too far you are shouting wolf/stalker :rolleyes:
    I know 2 girls who have had multiple stalkers. Some girls just attract them.

    One of the girls can't work in pubs any more because that's where they seemed to latch onto her, following her after work etc..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,653 ✭✭✭✭amdublin


    Alter-Ego wrote: »
    I know 2 girls who have had multiple stalkers. Some girls just attract them.

    One of the girls can't work in pubs any more because that's where they seemed to latch onto her, following her after work etc..

    Any girls I know who "attract" stalkers actually tend to be overly friendly and flirty and god forbid when the fella asks them out they get labelled a stalker.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭TeddyTedson


    snyper wrote: »
    hes only a stalker if he faps into the flowers
    hahahaha, oh wait that makes me look like a sarcastic dickhead....
    I meant to say Lul!:pac::pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,435 ✭✭✭wandatowell


    bonerm wrote: »
    Ah the mix-tape! One of those rituals that was (thankfully) lost to technological progress.

    You are right, though I guess nowadays we're meant to send mixes compiled in iTunes and confess our undying love via a podcast ;)


    Which reminds me where the hell did I put my eight track??








    p.s. that wasn't a flirtatious winky, you wont be getting no podcasts from me brah. though I would like to send you some flowers

    weird eh?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,324 ✭✭✭Alter-Ego


    amdublin wrote: »
    Any girls I know who "attract" stalkers actually tend to be overly friendly and flirty and god forbid when the fella asks them out they get labelled a stalker.
    In my experience its just that they're friendly girls, too nice to tell someone to fcuk off.

    The flirting is often unintentional.

    I agree that some women are notorious for leading men on and then complain that they're being "stalked".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 91 ✭✭Crimbouser


    Ah, people in ireland don't even ask each other on dates. We are too romantically repressed. If you have flirted with her in the past and she was flirtyish back, then go on op, go out on a limb!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 578 ✭✭✭Mammanabammana


    Crimbouser wrote: »
    Ah, people in ireland don't even ask each other on dates. We are too romantically repressed. If you have flirted with her in the past and she was flirtyish back, then go on op, go out on a limb!

    True. More than a few relationships/marriages in this country are built on the foundation of a first night hammered drunk snog/ride...and shure what harm!

    Just for the record, there is no 'girl in work' here - I'm not looking to do this or send flowers or whatever...tis but a wonderment that hovered into my head this fine sunny saturday.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,736 ✭✭✭Irish Guitarist


    It depends how well you know her. If you've just met her it might seem a bit weird. It also depends what you intend doing if she's not interested.

    Either way, flowers are a waste of money. If I wanted to impress a girl I'd send her a homemade card.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 61 ✭✭nomh


    Being stalked is romantic. I wish someone was devoted enough to me to sit outside my house at night.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,408 ✭✭✭Captain_Generic


    nomh wrote: »
    Being stalked is romantic. I wish someone was devoted enough to me to sit outside my house at night.

    If the gardai suspect you of a serious crime you might get your wish


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 61 ✭✭nomh


    If the gardai suspect you of a serious crime you might get your wish
    I would never date a pig


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,028 ✭✭✭✭--LOS--


    stalking is something that's constant, persistent and against the persons wishes, not a nice thing at all, I wouldn't define the flowers at the house scenario as stalkerish.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,080 ✭✭✭Gunsfortoys


    --LOS-- wrote: »
    stalking is something that's constant, persistent and against the persons wishes, not a nice thing at all, I wouldn't define the flowers at the house scenario as stalkerish.

    You would be one in a hundred.

    I think it really does boil down to looks as well really.

    I think the looks thing applies to both genders, because if a Kelly Brook or Christina Hendricks lookalike was following a bloke around he wouldn't exactly mind.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,028 ✭✭✭✭--LOS--


    You would be one in a hundred.

    I think it really does boil down to looks as well really.

    I think the looks thing applies to both genders, because if a Kelly Brook or Christina Hendricks lookalike was following a bloke around he wouldn't exactly mind.

    I dont think looks has to do with it and you can be stalked by someone you know well which I have had problems with before and it was pretty nasty, I'd welcome flowers from a stranger at the house over that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    I agree the word "stalking" can be used incorrectly, but sending flowers to a girl who doesn't know who you are is weird. I'd find it weird anyway, irrespective of whether I found the guy attractive-looking or not...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,678 ✭✭✭LambsEye


    bonerm wrote: »
    Ah the mix-tape! One of those rituals that was (thankfully) lost to technological progress.

    I've always wondered (after all the thought and effort that goes into making one) what percentage of mix-tapes actually went unlistened to by their recipient?

    I'd guess 99%


    "Stalking" is something that I would consider really, really serious, where the person being stalked is actually at risk of being hurt.

    There's a massive difference between someone being weirdly persistent and a stalker. Also, the majority of "stalkers" are people with whom you've had previous contact (ex's, friends etc.) so I don't buy the whole "Omg he sent me flowers he's a stalker." The most it would be is a bit weird.

    All these scenarios are completely subjective anyway y'know?

    Also mixed tapes for the win! I LOVE mixed tapes. A boy once seriously did win my heart over with a mixed tape now that I think about it!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Actually, having viewed the poll, if it were a Back To The Future trilogy I got instead of flowers (nice but a bit corny) I'd be all his...


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,113 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    Is there a camera in the flowers? Don't see the problem with it, I'd rather some egg mayo or potatoes if you are mailing me though please.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,713 ✭✭✭✭Novella


    Guy sees girl in shop or wherever. Guy does not know girl at all. Guy finds out girls address. Creepy. I mean, how could it be considered normal to find the address of a complete stranger?! I don't know how anyone would think that's romantic. Seriously. Just say hello.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,597 ✭✭✭Witchie


    This is something I really don't understand, the whole definition of a stalker is that the persons behaviour is extraordinarily obsessive, so for a person to have "a few" stalkers, there has to be something up with their behavior, either they're leading the "stalker" on, or sending mixed signals.

    I mean I can understand someone getting stalked by 1 person... Getting stalked by 2 people is really pushing it but if a person is continually complaining to the Guards about stalkers, surely they're the one who's bat **** crazy...

    Am crazy but not that kinda crazy. You can't assume to know anything about my situation. I think i do attract slightly weird guys and coz I don't want to be a Bitch, I am nice to them. I reported one to guards and other situations i have just dealt with myself.

    When i was in college i broke up with a guy from home. He used to get a bus to Dublin every day and b sitting on the wall across from my apartment every morning when I would b going to college. He would be there when I came home and would head home on last bus. He would put letters and poems under my door. Went on for weeks until he saw me with a new bf.

    There have been other incidents including a guy who pinned me against a wall in a nite club telling me who I was, where i lived and what he wanted to do to me that scared me for ages.

    Another guy, having been told I wasn't interested started putting notes through my letter box and on my car in the middle of the nite and even showed up at my door when i had just arrived home from an event with my kids....at midnight. He had been parked outside when I arrived home. I told him if he ever came to my house again i would call the guards and he backed off.

    The one I did involve the guards in, i cant go into.

    Another guy claimed to know where i lived and said he was outside watching me with my sons.

    There have been others who won't take no for an answer and I have had to change my phone no to shake off but they were minor.

    So maybe I shouldn't talk to random strangers and show some kindness coz thinking back its only caused me grief.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,952 ✭✭✭Lando Griffin


    Witchie wrote: »
    Am crazy but not that kinda crazy. You can't assume to know anything about my situation. I think i do attract slightly weird guys and coz I don't want to be a Bitch, I am nice to them. I reported one to guards and other situations i have just dealt with myself.

    When i was in college i broke up with a guy from home. He used to get a bus to Dublin every day and b sitting on the wall across from my apartment every morning when I would b going to college. He would be there when I came home and would head home on last bus. He would put letters and poems under my door. Went on for weeks until he saw me with a new bf.

    There have been other incidents including a guy who pinned me against a wall in a nite club telling me who I was, where i lived and what he wanted to do to me that scared me for ages.

    Another guy, having been told I wasn't interested started putting notes through my letter box and on my car in the middle of the nite and even showed up at my door when i had just arrived home from an event with my kids....at midnight. He had been parked outside when I arrived home. I told him if he ever came to my house again i would call the guards and he backed off.

    The one I did involve the guards in, i cant go into.

    Another guy claimed to know where i lived and said he was outside watching me with my sons.

    There have been others who won't take no for an answer and I have had to change my phone no to shake off but they were minor.

    So maybe I shouldn't talk to random strangers and show some kindness coz thinking back its only caused me grief.

    Where do you live?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,104 ✭✭✭Swampy


    You're all giving stalkers a bad name. It take a lot of time and patience to achieve uber stalker status.

    Edit: not to mention the cost involved in the presents and thousands of texts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,869 ✭✭✭Futurecrook


    How exactly would you find out this total stranger's address? Beccause if it's by following her home without her knowing that I'm pretty sure that qualifies as stalking. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,408 ✭✭✭Captain_Generic


    What if I ring a girl I like and anxiety causes my asthma to kick in, followed by several seconds of heavy breathing where I can't say anything, so I hang up. This process is then repeated in a futile attempt to get over my nerves.



    Also i'm naked in her bushes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,571 ✭✭✭Aoifey!


    If you've only seen/talked to them once then that's extremely stalkerish, but if you know then or talked to them a few times then it's leaning more towards romantic.


    And of course, looks will come into play - whether we like to admit it or not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 534 ✭✭✭flowerchild


    Swampy wrote: »
    You're all giving stalkers a bad name. It take a lot of time and patience to achieve uber stalker status.

    Edit: not to mention the cost involved in the presents and thousands of texts.

    I bet it does. Lots and lots of practice.

    In answer to the question, it is stalking. Because the sub-text is 'I know where you live'.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,867 ✭✭✭eternal


    Its romantic .How could sending someone flowers be a bad thing?
    Stalking is like someone whos obsessed to the point of danger ,where you need protection.In saying that had an ex come to my house and threaten to throw rocks in my car just cos I wouldnt sleep with him .Oh yeah and another ex on the phone saying he would kill himself if I didnt take him back.I said no loss to the world there .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,042 ✭✭✭stevejr


    There may be FAR more truth in this than most people are willing to admit!


    According to Hollywood...

    What's the reason for being reasonable?

    Is that an unreasonable question?



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