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Ireland standard euipment rip off

  • 28-05-2011 09:47PM
    #1
    Akrasia
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,105 ✭✭✭✭


    Really fecking annoying.

    I just bought a 04 mondeo LX. On Parkers.co.uk they list all the standard equipment for the base LX model and declare that it's generous and includes cruise control, ESP and a trip computer.

    The Irish version of the exact same fecking car has no trip computer, no cruise control and no ESP, and the irish car would have cost more to buy new than the same U.K. car.

    I know this has being going on for years but it's sickening how we are taken for granted and ripped off at every possible opportunity.


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  • #2
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,546 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    I can't see the issue. Specs vary across countries.


  • #3
    Akrasia
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,105 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    the issue is we're paying more and receiving less.

    feckin VRT


  • #4
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,244 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    The only peopel that buy Mondeo LX's are the Gards, they dont need fancy stuff like cruise control :)

    I know a guy that bought a Mondeo Lx new in 05, in that Blue colour that the Garda unmarked ones use too. Whenever its just lads in the car and your anywhere with scumbag types around you see all the young blokes heads turning as it comes up the road, and they often seem t have to turn up laneways and the like all of a sudden. He gets some awful stare off them at times. funny stuff.


  • #5
    Akrasia
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,105 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    The only peopel that buy Mondeo LX's are the Gards, they dont need fancy stuff like cruise control :)

    I know a guy that bought a Mondeo Lx new in 05, in that Blue colour that the Garda unmarked ones use to. Whenever its just lads in the car and your anywhere with scumbag types around you see all the young blokes heads turning as it comes up the road, and they often seem t have to turn up laneways and the like all of a sudden. He gets some awful stare off them at times. funny stuff.

    yeah, that's the main reason I bought it.

    :)

    but now most of the cops are driving newer passats and avensiii and even primeras (suppose the reversing cameras come in handy) so the skangers aren't too worried about my bog standard 7 year old hatchback mondeo


  • #6
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,546 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Vrt on an 04 mondeo is tiny. Nothing stopping you importing.


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  • #7
    Daegerty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,864 ✭✭✭Daegerty


    Trip computer, cruise control and ESP? Who needs that sh1te? only ould gimmicks. I'd pay not to have them rly. The less of that ould crap clogging up my car the better


  • #8
    Daegerty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,864 ✭✭✭Daegerty


    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    The only peopel that buy Mondeo LX's are the Gards, they dont need fancy stuff like cruise control :)

    I know a guy that bought a Mondeo Lx new in 05, in that Blue colour that the Garda unmarked ones use too. Whenever its just lads in the car and your anywhere with scumbag types around you see all the young blokes heads turning as it comes up the road, and they often seem t have to turn up laneways and the like all of a sudden. He gets some awful stare off them at times. funny stuff.


    Does he leave a high vis jacket thrown under the back window?
    Did he attach an extra mobile phone or small CB antenna?


  • #9
    squod
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,704 ✭✭✭squod


    Daegerty wrote: »
    Trip computer, cruise control and ESP? Who needs that sh1te? only ould gimmicks. I'd pay not to have them rly. The less of that ould crap clogging up my car the better

    Wish my car could tell the future.......


  • #10
    maxer68
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,076 ✭✭✭maxer68


    Akrasia wrote: »
    Really fecking annoying.

    I just bought a 04 mondeo LX. On Parkers.co.uk they list all the standard equipment for the base LX model and declare that it's generous and includes cruise control, ESP and a trip computer.

    The Irish version of the exact same fecking car has no trip computer, no cruise control and no ESP, and the irish car would have cost more to buy new than the same U.K. car.

    I know this has being going on for years but it's sickening how we are taken for granted and ripped off at every possible opportunity.

    more anti Irish rubbish. Do a little research and you'll find out the reason for different specs. I'll save you time. Up til a while ago cars had a high tax rates. This was applied on the retail price of the car. To keep the costs down, they stripped many cars of auto extras as if these were factory fitted, the tax and vat on that tax was added. So extras were retro fitted after the initial sale, but most people decided against them. In 2004, the ex tax price of cars in Ireland was lowest in Europe.


  • #11
    Mr Benevolent
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,456 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent


    Daegerty wrote: »
    Trip computer, cruise control and ESP? Who needs that sh1te? only ould gimmicks. I'd pay not to have them rly. The less of that ould crap clogging up my car the better

    I'd wager you harken back to the good ould days of starting handles and carburettors, declaring them to be the glory days of motoring.

    Pftt. Give me an LS460h.


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  • #12
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,546 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Confab wrote: »
    Pftt. Give me an LS460h.

    A what now?


  • #13
    Daegerty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,864 ✭✭✭Daegerty


    Confab wrote: »
    I'd wager you harken back to the good ould days of starting handles and carburettors, declaring them to be the glory days of motoring.

    Pftt. Give me an LS460h.

    no need to harken back have plenty of that sort of stuff in the shed.

    glory days? I'd say they are coming to an end rather than starting when you have ould feckers like Eric Schmidt going around saying how surprised he is that "mere humans" are allowed to drive cars at all


  • #14
    mickob16
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 319 ✭✭mickob16


    Its called the Paddy Spec:D:D


  • #15
    Fishtits
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭Fishtits


    Irish cars are specced to fit into certain price bands. A typical Mondeo LX buyer will spend €xxxx etc. The fact that we have VRT - whereas there is no similar tax in the UK - automatically makes the car more expensive.

    Cars are still dirt cheap compared to what they cost 15 - 20 years ago, in 1996 a basic BMW 318i cost €40,000... (£32,000 - I have the receipt...) no air con, no leather, no nothin'...


  • #16
    PaulKK
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,279 ✭✭✭PaulKK


    No offence, but wouldn't it have been a bit wiser to research on parkers before you got your new car.

    You could have imported if you wanted a few toys for the same cash.

    If you bought the car already and were happy with it then you can't really complain now can you?


  • #17
    vectra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,680 ✭✭✭✭vectra


    mickob16 wrote: »
    Its called the Paddy Spec:D:D

    Not necessarily so,

    My Irish car is a much higher spec than the UK version


  • #18
    EPM
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,822 ✭✭✭✭EPM


    Daegerty wrote: »
    Trip computer, cruise control and ESP? Who needs that sh1te? only ould gimmicks. I'd pay not to have them rly. The less of that ould crap clogging up my car the better

    ESP a gimmick? It's a life saving bit of kit.


  • #19
    -Corkie-
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,025 ✭✭✭✭-Corkie-


    vectra wrote: »
    Not necessarily so,

    My Irish car is a much higher spec than the UK version


    +1 same for Suberb and they are a small bit cheaper here too. The Passat Highline here has a way more extras than the UK model.

    Why didnt the OP just go to the UK and get a well specced motor...


  • #20
    whippet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,739 ✭✭✭whippet


    -Corkie- wrote: »
    +1 same for Suberb and they are a small bit cheaper here too. The Passat Highline here has a way more extras than the UK model.

    Why didnt the OP just go to the UK and get a well specced motor...

    my new Superb came loaded with just about everything ...no need for an options price list from the dealer.

    And from what I can make out as standard the spec if better than that of the UK.

    I even got the umbrella in the back door which was taken off the standard UK spec


  • #21
    L1011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72,412 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Fiat's base spec in Ireland is generally higher - electric windows, CD player, cigarette lighter and power steering on a base model Panda in 2004 - UK had windy, a tape deck, not even a 12 volt socket and manual steering...

    The spec level I bought at in 2008 had bigger wheels, aircon and a trim kit in Ireland compared to the UK.


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  • #22
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    its just different versions for different markets, in general the vast majority of irish people dont care about spec , price ,fuel, road tax and possibly badge

    you see it as a bad thing, as do I , but to the ford dealers here as well as VW dealers with passats etc.. they know they can save 1500-2000 on bringing the cars in without some features and most of the country would still buy it , sure if it was legal youd find seatbelts would probably be optional on some cars here


  • #23
    Daegerty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,864 ✭✭✭Daegerty


    EPM wrote: »
    ESP a gimmick? It's a life saving bit of kit.

    just leads to more risk-taking, and another thing that can break for you to fail the NCT over so you can bring more money to the Dealer


  • #24
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,244 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    vectra wrote: »
    Not necessarily so,

    My Irish car is a much higher spec than the UK version

    I found similar when we bought the missus Scenic. The majority in the UK seem to have standard cloth seats and maual A/c etc whereas the ones here have half leather and digital climate .


  • #25
    Stinicker
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,102 ✭✭✭Stinicker


    I looked at a 2010 car recently, it had manual wind-up windows in the rear, it was enough for me and I walked away without even test driving it.


  • #26
    robtri
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,473 ✭✭✭robtri


    Stinicker wrote: »
    I looked at a 2010 car recently, it had manual wind-up windows in the rear, it was enough for me and I walked away without even test driving it.

    :confused:

    whats that to do with spec levels between here and uk


  • #27
    veetwin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,002 ✭✭✭veetwin


    Sitec wrote: »
    How exactly does ESP lead to more risk taking?

    Would love to know the answer to this also! Most people would not be even aware they have it.


  • #28
    stimpson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,863 ✭✭✭stimpson


    Stinicker wrote: »
    I looked at a 2010 car recently, it had manual wind-up windows in the rear, it was enough for me and I walked away without even test driving it.

    Who cares about how hard they have it in the back? They should be happy that they're not taking the bus. Id rather pay for cruise control and bigger alloys than for electric windows I'm never going to use.


  • #29
    ninty9er
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,366 ✭✭✭ninty9er


    squod wrote: »
    Wish my car could tell the future.......
    My Mondeo can based on your definition.


  • #30
    Daegerty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,864 ✭✭✭Daegerty


    Stinicker wrote: »
    I looked at a 2010 car recently, it had manual wind-up windows in the rear, it was enough for me and I walked away without even test driving it.

    I'd want em in the front as well. If you can't even roll up a simple window things must be bad for ya


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  • #31
    Stealthirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,596 ✭✭✭Stealthirl


    is there anywhere u can even see the spec of irish cars ? or is it a case of haveing to look at the car and note whats on it in person

    im thinking about geting a pre 04 2.5 advant A6 maybe quattro end of the year and im thinking of just geting a UK one but i think the irish ones are better speced ?


  • #32
    Sobanek
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,354 ✭✭✭Sobanek


    What pisses me off is that Ireland is too much into diesel. Can't even configure a C30 on the Volvo page because there is only gutless 1.6 and 2.0 diesels...:mad:


  • #33
    lomb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,016 ✭✭✭lomb


    Daegerty wrote: »
    Trip computer, cruise control and ESP? Who needs that sh1te? only ould gimmicks. I'd pay not to have them rly. The less of that ould crap clogging up my car the better

    Well cruise control could save a few speeding fines, ESP could save your life! About the one piece of electronics in modern cars other than electronic fuel injection that is actually useful.


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