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Footballer of the Year

  • 29-08-2011 2:14pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53 ✭✭


    So everyone we all know the big final is still to come on Sept 18th.
    But at this stage I reckon its between The Gooch, Darren O Sullivan and the Brogan brothers and maybe even Declan O Sullivan could claim it.
    All great players but who will win it?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 299 ✭✭itsalltrue


    Don't think Bernard Brogan will win it, Alan has a good shout if he has a good final. A number of Kerry players are in with a chance but my money would be on Colm cooper. There is little fear of him not playing well in the final. I can't see it going to anyone outside these 2 teams.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53 ✭✭clanard


    Yeah fair point itsalltrue.
    Any other views everyone else?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,561 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Cooper for me

    EVENFLOW



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,656 ✭✭✭cgpg5


    Declan O'Sullivan and the gooch are the best two footballers in the country imo, one of these two


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,817 ✭✭✭corny


    Depends on who wins.

    Kerry win and Cooper gets it.

    Dublin win and Alan Brogan gets it. (even though i don't think he's been Dublins best player)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,569 ✭✭✭✭ProudDUB


    It is Alan's to lose right now imo, his iffy performance yesterday (oh ok, his crappy shot selection mainly) not with standing. If Dublin win the All Ireland, he'll get it. Hands down. If Kerry, win but Alan has played a blinder, he may still get it, if Gooch has a quiet game. If Kerry win, and Gooch has a half ways decent game, then he'll probably get it. Pity really, as it will be only for 2 games.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,966 ✭✭✭Syferus


    Darren O'Sullivan is a classier operator than Declan O', honestly.

    And I still can't get over anyone thinking Gooch is going to be the player of the year at this point - he's had one top drawer performance and unless he does the same in the final and drags Kerry over the line then he won't even be assured of an All-Star, never mind being FotY.

    In all honesty no one stands out as head and shoulders above anyone else at the moment but I can't see a situation like last year where the FotY came from a losing semi-finalist, the eventual winner will have been on show on September 18th.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,801 ✭✭✭✭Kojak


    Syferus wrote: »
    And I still can't get over anyone thinking Gooch is going to be the palyer of the year at this point - he's had one top drawer performance and unless he does the same in the final and drags Kerry over the line then he won't even be assured of an All-Star, never mind being FotY.

    Yeah, but he is loved by the medai which will guarantee him at least an All-Star.

    Earlier on in the year, Declan O'Sullivan looked like to be the fornt-runner for the award but has been quiet in the last 2 games. If Kerry win the final, and Darran O'Sullivan plays at 60 or 70%, then I think he will win FOTY.

    If Dublin win, then Alan Brogan will win the award imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,770 ✭✭✭Nedved85


    Darren O'Sullivan?..Think he is in with a shot if he has a good game and Kerry win.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,791 ✭✭✭Big Pussy Bonpensiero


    Karl Lacey should be in with a shout, think he played the most games from all the realistic contenders. Would like him to win it, he's such an honest player and was integral to everything Donegal did throughout the year.

    Cillian O' Connor for the YPOTY hands down. Farce if he doesn't get it. And I say this as a Galway man!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,966 ✭✭✭Syferus


    THFC wrote: »
    Karl Lacey should be in with a shout, think he played the most games from all the realistic contenders. Would like him to win it, he's such an honest player and was integral to everything Donegal did throughout the year.

    Cillian O' Connor for the YPOTY hands down. Farce if he doesn't get it. And I say this as a Galway man!

    It's hard for me to get behind any Donegal defender to be in the FotY picture because whatever else can be said about their ultra-blanket defence, it relies on bodies more than individual skill. Lacey also limbed off on Sunday with an injury so that further hampers any chance he'd have had.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,729 ✭✭✭Pride Fighter


    Colm Cooper has never won it before. I think he'll take it this year. Other contenders would be Bernard Brogan again, Karl Lacey, Darren O'Sullivan maybe one or two others.

    Will be interesting to find out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    Bernard Brogan cos he's a filthy roide!

    (and he can play football)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 752 ✭✭✭JFlah


    I think Colm Cooper the Mayo game aside has had better years and not won FOTY so i think not this year , up until the quarter finals Declan o Sullivan was a shoe in but faded imo Darren O Sullivan will get it , has been good to brilliant in all his games with the occassional pure magic moment and a couple of class goals if he performs to that level in the final I think he wins it . there does,nt seem to be as many likely winners as other years with and again its only my opinion not too many outstanding displays , lots of solid efforts but outstanding no, I think Mayo and Donegal progressing so far has effected FOTY and All Star thinking as neither really has too many contenders , Mayo over achieved in 1 game and Donegal used that terrible system where footballing ability was,nt really paramount. So Darren O S for me :) Also for Alan Brogan supporters i think he shot himself in the foot a little with his display against Donegal , where his shot taking and decision making seemed to me to be slightly in the headless chicken mode , Bernard has a better shout.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46 denisc


    Hard one to call this year.

    Alan Brogan had a good year but had two quiet games in semi and final.
    Bernard was good but not amazing.
    Cluxton grabbed the headlines but it's as much due to the novelty factor as anything else.

    Declan O Sullivan disappeared off the radar.
    Darran O Sullivan had a great year and did well in the final.
    Gooch caught the eye in the last two games and ended up top scorer in the championship.

    Darran for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43 hurler_87


    Cluxton would get my vote...

    Not just for the free taking, but the fact he's been consistently performing well in goal both saving and distributing the ball to the blue jersey...

    Darran OSullivan best outfield player this year...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,346 ✭✭✭✭homerjay2005


    i though alan brogan was very good today and he is my favourite for it....

    who else is there?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46 denisc


    i though alan brogan was very good today and he is my favourite for it....

    who else is there?

    Scored two early points and faded out for most of the rest of the match.

    He was not a game changer against either Donegal or Kerry and he didn't play like the "best footballer in Ireland"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,656 ✭✭✭cgpg5


    I think Cluxton will get it. Other notable contenders are Alan Brogan and Darren O'sullivan. Cillian O'Connor (Mayo) would be my young player.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,729 ✭✭✭Pride Fighter


    denisc wrote: »
    Scored two early points and faded out for most of the rest of the match.

    He was not a game changer against either Donegal or Kerry and he didn't play like the "best footballer in Ireland"

    After scoring the 2 early points Alan Brogan was Dublins playmaker and created the goal. I think its between himself, Cluxton and Sheehan for MOTM.

    As for footballer of the year, it has to be the Gooch. If he did not get it, it would be a scandal in the proportions of Brian O'Driscoll not getting world player of the year in 2009.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,346 ✭✭✭✭homerjay2005


    denisc wrote: »
    Scored two early points and faded out for most of the rest of the match.

    He was not a game changer against either Donegal or Kerry and he didn't play like the "best footballer in Ireland"

    set up the goal, had 2 or 3 key interventions and also set up a few points.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 680 ✭✭✭Fr D Maugire


    Outside of Dublin and Kerry, Karl Lacey is a contender for me. I know Donegal were ugly to watch and it was more of a team effort but Lacey was outstanding in every game and was badly missed when he went off injured against Dublin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,351 ✭✭✭✭starlit


    Tough call. Just listing possible names from counties.

    Dublin: Bernard Brogan, Alan Brogan, Cluxton
    Kerry: Colm Gooch Cooper, Darren O'Sullivan, Declan O'Sullivan, Brendan Keely, Paul Galvin, Tomas O'Se, Marc O'Se unsure about Donaghy despite him having a a good game today
    Cork: Alan Quirke
    Kildare: John Doyle


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,551 ✭✭✭SeaFields


    Darran O Sullivans form this year has been suburb. He'd be my choice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 388 ✭✭johnny_cash


    Darran o'sullivan should win player of the year without question.I thought he was the best player in the final too and didn't even get mentioned for man of the match :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,683 ✭✭✭plasmaguy


    There was no real outstanding candidate.

    Alan Brogan was consistent all year and had a phenomenal game today, settling the team with the first two scores, setting up the goal and almost scoring another.

    I think he would be my player of the year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,817 ✭✭✭corny


    doovdela wrote: »
    Tough call. Just listing possible names from counties.

    Dublin: Bernard Brogan, Alan Brogan, Cluxton
    Kerry: Colm Gooch Cooper, Darren O'Sullivan, Declan O'Sullivan, Brendan Keely, Paul Galvin, Tomas O'Se, Marc O'Se unsure about Donaghy despite him having a a good game today
    Cork: Alan Quirke
    Kildare: John Doyle

    Why? Got a handy score today but was directly responsible for 2 Dublin scores and was very lucky Brendan Kealy bailed him out with a terrific save when he gave the ball away in the first half. A fabulous player but no way is he player of the year.

    On the player of the year, its a shame Paul Flynn had a quiet game today because himself, A Brogan and Ger Brennan (yes i said Ger Brennan) have been terrific for Dublin all season. Probably go for Alan Brogan because he was good in EVERY game, excellent in some.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,801 ✭✭✭✭Kojak


    SeaFields wrote: »
    Darran O Sullivans form this year has been suburb. He'd be my choice.

    Mine too, but he could get over-looked with all the hype/media talk about how its "the first All-Ireland for Dublin in 16 years". In that regard, the award is between Cluxton and Alan Brogan.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,299 ✭✭✭spiralism


    Alan Brogan?


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    Kojak wrote: »
    Mine too, but he could get over-looked with all the hype/media talk about how its "the first All-Ireland for Dublin in 16 years". In that regard, the award is between Cluxton and Alan Brogan.

    Jesus Dublin even get hype after the Championship now!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,989 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    SeaFields wrote: »
    Darran O Sullivans form this year has been suburb. He'd be my choice.
    Darran o'sullivan should win player of the year without question.I thought he was the best player in the final too and didn't even get mentioned for man of the match
    Kojak wrote: »
    Mine too, but he could get over-looked with all the hype/media talk about how its "the first All-Ireland for Dublin in 16 years". In that regard, the award is between Cluxton and Alan Brogan.

    To be honest I think all the hype is about O' Sullivan

    He had a good game and a half v Limerick, a good half v Cork, but apart from a few fast runs and setting up a nice goal for Gooch he did very little v Mayo or Dublin.

    Hardly player of the year stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,346 ✭✭✭✭homerjay2005


    he did very little v Mayo or Dublin.

    :confused::confused::confused::confused:

    he would have got MOM had kerry won yesterday...he was involved in everything.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,989 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    SeaFields wrote: »
    Darran O Sullivans form this year has been suburb. He'd be my choice.
    Darran o'sullivan should win player of the year without question.I thought he was the best player in the final too and didn't even get mentioned for man of the match :(
    :confused::confused::confused::confused:

    he would have got MOM had kerry won yesterday...he was involved in everything.

    But they didn't did they, now fair enough his run set-up Coopers gaol a but he still failed to score.

    His profile this year has been all around this performance against Limerick and the first half v Cork, two games that Kerry dominated.

    His goal v Limerick is the most over-ratted thing that has happendin football this year.
    Gooch's yesterday and v Mayo were far better goals IMO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 747 ✭✭✭caesar


    Cant really comment on this as I was away for the summer and only got to see a handful of games.

    In any case it seems to be between O'Sullivan and Alan Brogan from what everyone is saying. However, if Kerry had won yesterday I though Bryan Sheehan would have got MOM, he kicked crucial scores, having said that O'Sullivan was very good too.

    Alan Brogan while not exceptional yesterday was involved in the goal, a few points including his own. If you look back on the game you'll see his was involved in most of Dublin's crucial scores.

    It would be nice to see Alan Brogan get it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,570 ✭✭✭quad_red


    doovdela wrote: »
    Dublin: Bernard Brogan, Alan Brogan, Cluxton

    Cluxton has been consistently good all year but winning the All Ireland final with almost the last kick of the game says it all. The composure, the nerve.

    Has to be Cluxton for me.

    Coming up to the final it would've had to have been Darren O'Sullivan. Some awesome play, a joy to watch. But the final changed the complexion of things (as it should)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 528 ✭✭✭Sir Vival


    But they didn't did they, now fair enough his run set-up Coopers gaol a but he still failed to score.

    His profile this year has been all around this performance against Limerick and the first half v Cork, two games that Kerry dominated.

    His goal v Limerick is the most over-ratted thing that has happendin football this year.
    Gooch's yesterday and v Mayo were far better goals IMO.

    When Kerry looked down and out in early in the second half, O'Sullivan won 3 frees in a row which were all converted by Cooper. Himself and Sheehan were easily Kerry's best players.

    Player of the year, hands down for the pace, skill and scoring he showed all year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46 denisc


    quad_red wrote: »
    Cluxton has been consistently good all year but winning the All Ireland final with almost the last kick of the game says it all. The composure, the nerve.

    Has to be Cluxton for me.

    Coming up to the final it would've had to have been Darren O'Sullivan. Some awesome play, a joy to watch. But the final changed the complexion of things (as it should)

    With ten minutes to go yesterday, Cluxton wasn't even in the reckoning for Man-of-the-Match so one swing of the leg doesn't make him player of the year.

    Are you really suggesting that if all the county managers could pick one of the two they'd go for Stephen Cluxton before Darran O Sullivan????

    Sorry, but that's just crazy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,570 ✭✭✭quad_red


    denisc wrote: »
    With ten minutes to go yesterday, Cluxton wasn't even in the reckoning for Man-of-the-Match so one swing of the leg doesn't make him player of the year.

    Are you really suggesting that if all the county managers could pick one of the two they'd go for Stephen Cluxton before Darran O Sullivan????

    Sorry, but that's just crazy.

    I actually think he would've been in the running at least. But the finish does change things. It was the moment the championship hung in the balance. He flourished in the final, excelled in the final moment.

    You're probably right - most managers would pick o'sullivan. But in the final Cluxton delivered. Darren didn't play that badly. But neither did he shine.

    So it comes back to a moment that defines a championship and the player that delivers it. And Cluxton having the nerve to finish the game off, from a team that so often has been criticised for lacking the 'bottle' to win the championship, swings it in my opinion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,676 ✭✭✭elefant


    Cluxton is 10/1 to win Player fo the Year. Surely worth a few euro!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46 denisc


    quad_red wrote: »
    I actually think he would've been in the running at least. But the finish does change things. It was the moment the championship hung in the balance. He flourished in the final, excelled in the final moment.

    You're probably right - most managers would pick o'sullivan. But in the final Cluxton delivered. Darren didn't play that badly. But neither did he shine.

    So it comes back to a moment that defines a championship and the player that delivers it. And Cluxton having the nerve to finish the game off, from a team that so often has been criticised for lacking the 'bottle' to win the championship, swings it in my opinion.

    Sorry. Just can't have that. Cluxton didn't make a single big save or catch that I can remember. He was awarded Man-of-the-Match more or less on the basis of that pressure kick alone.

    That in itself is a questionable decision but to suggest that a man can also get the Player of the Year on that basis would seriously diminish the award.

    Gooch Cooper has NEVER won it and Sheehan can kick those kind of frees and longer in his sleep.
    And to say Darran O'Sullivan didn't shine yesterday is simply wrong. He was in the thick of it all day.

    Like I say. Cluxton got his Man-of-the-Match for his Championship "defining moment".
    That should be the end of it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46 denisc


    elefant wrote: »
    Cluxton is 10/1 to win Player fo the Year. Surely worth a few euro!

    Really. With who?


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    Bernard Brogan. Has to be. Although i am most certainly biased, i think anyone would agree that he's been excellent in both the league and the championship this year.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,443 ✭✭✭InchicoreDude


    denisc wrote: »
    Sorry. Just can't have that. Cluxton didn't make a single big save or catch that I can remember. He was awarded Man-of-the-Match more or less on the basis of that pressure kick alone.

    He did deal well with one high ball where he punched it away

    Are you really suggesting that if all the county managers could pick one of the two they'd go for Stephen Cluxton before Darran O Sullivan????

    Well thats a very generic statement. It all depends. Galway have had difficulty with goalkeepers kickout for years and Cluxton would add so much to them.... But they already have some decent running forwards, so would Darren O'Sullivan be more valuable than Cluxton for Galway? I dont think he would be. They bring very different attributes to the team (You are comparing a goalkeeper with a forward after all!). We could do with both of them in Galway though!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,307 ✭✭✭cruiserweight


    Multiple footballer of the year threads merged


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,313 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Cluxton was also very important in the Donegal win. It seems odd it would be a keeper but if he's at 10/1, definitely worth a bet.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,798 ✭✭✭Mr. Incognito


    I thought it was between Darren O Sullivan and Gooch and possibly Brogan if he had a big game yesterday.

    He kicked two points from play- Gooch had 1-3.

    Between Gooch and Darren for me but on the basis of the goal against Mayo when it mattered most I'd give it to Gooch


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,065 ✭✭✭leonidas83


    Gooch, Darren O'Sullivan, Alan Brogan, Johnny Doyle & Andy Moran in that order in my opinion


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,049 ✭✭✭Brianderunner


    Paddy's bet;

    Alan Brogan 2/5
    Darran O Sullivan 15/8
    Bernard Brogan 10/1
    Stephen Cluxton 10/1
    Colm Cooper 12/1

    33/1 and upwards the rest. In other words it can only be one of those 5.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92 ✭✭Temp Barry


    Alan Brogan for me.

    He's been very good for Dublin in every championship game this year, got man of the match in at least 2 of the games. Was very good again yesterday, 2 lovely points, involved in the goal, and was one of the busiest players in the pitch. Like in every game this year, his workrate was tremendous, he's constantly getting involved and getting on the ball and rarely gives it away.

    One moment that typified his season was winning the breaking ball when there was a throw ball at the end between Donaghy and Fennell.

    Alan Brogan all the way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 583 ✭✭✭68Murph68


    Paddy's bet;

    Alan Brogan 2/5
    Darran O Sullivan 15/8
    Bernard Brogan 10/1
    Stephen Cluxton 10/1
    Colm Cooper 12/1

    33/1 and upwards the rest. In other words it can only be one of those 5.

    I reckon Cooper at 12/1 is great value - Cluxton and Bernard havent a shout and it's effectively a three horse race ; between Alan Brogan , Darran O'Sullivan and Cooper. Also don't forget that they are probably a lot of Dublin punters affecting the odds.

    I think when people will come to cast their votes the fact that Cooper hasnt gotten one yet will cause him to win it combined with some awesome performances. I'd say Darran probably had a better year and while Alan did end up on the winning side, for sheer class combined with the fact that he was top Championship scorer and scored two great goals along with the fact that he will go down as one of the all time greats of the game Cooper is outstanding value.

    The way I look at it is if you were picking a team today out of all the players in the Championship who would be the first player you pick?
    Cooper every time


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