Bus Éireann buy their buses from Britain

Kotek Besar · 08-01-2012 03:28PM #1

I was on the ferry from Holyhead to Dublin the other day and, in the car hold, I spotted at least two brand new, unregistered, big Bus Éireann buses - the type used for long distance routes.

Didn't know they bought them from Britain.

MagicMarker · 08-01-2012 03:29PM

OMG.

Don't they realise we suffered 800 years of oppression?

Kotek Besar · 08-01-2012 03:31PM

MagicMarker wrote: »

OMG.

Don't they realise we suffered 800 years of oppression?

I know, can you believe it?

Big Nasty · 08-01-2012 03:36PM

Their mostly Volvo's though aren'y they so ultimately would have come from Sweden. They hardly fly them over either now do they?

Del2005 · 08-01-2012 03:37PM

Kotek Besar wrote: »

I was on the ferry from Holyhead to Dublin the other day and, in the car hold, I spotted at least two brand new, unregistered, big Bus Éireann buses - the type used for long distance routes.

Didn't know they bought them from Britain.

Do we make buses?

juan.kerr · 08-01-2012 03:42PM

If 'we' do, they are probably twice the cost of UK or European ones.

Could they not have come from mainland Europe via UK?

mickdw · 08-01-2012 03:42PM

Del2005 wrote: »

Kotek Besar wrote: »

I was on the ferry from Holyhead to Dublin the other day and, in the car hold, I spotted at least two brand new, unregistered, big Bus Éireann buses - the type used for long distance routes.

Didn't know they bought them from Britain.

Do we make buses?

We used to.

Big Nasty · 08-01-2012 03:46PM

mickdw wrote: »

We used to.

Used to make cars too!

mike65 · 08-01-2012 03:49PM

Worst thread of the day?

Drummerboy08 · 08-01-2012 03:49PM

MCMLXXV wrote: »

Used to make cars too!

We used to make money too!!!

I'd imagine that the buses are transported like this all the time, livery etc would be applied at the factory.

The fact that they were on a ferry from the UK isn't an indication that they were purchased there.

L1011 · 08-01-2012 03:52PM

I don't see what the problem is, its not like we HAVE a bus builder in Ireland.

My car came on a boat from France, there's a damn good chance yours did too.

P.C. · 08-01-2012 03:52PM

mike65 wrote: »

Worst thread of the day?

Should be in conspiricy theories.

Victor · 08-01-2012 03:56PM

http://www.buseireann.ie/inner.php?id=314

Big Nasty · 08-01-2012 03:56PM

MYOB wrote: »

I don't see what the problem is, its not like we HAVE a bus builder in Ireland.

My car came on a boat from France, there's a damn good chance yours did too.

Nah, I don't drive any of that French rot!

Terrontress · 08-01-2012 04:00PM

I saw those same buses. They are made by Irizar who are Spanish. The chassis is probably Scania or Volvo which are Swedish.

There is bus manufacturing in Ballymena but not coaches as those two are.

L1011 · 08-01-2012 04:00PM

MCMLXXV wrote: »

Nah, I don't drive any of that French rot!

There's not many direct boats from Germany/Italy/Spain/Holland (Nedcar)/Sweden...

Big Nasty · 08-01-2012 04:09PM

MYOB wrote: »

There's not many direct boats from Germany/Italy/Spain/Holland (Nedcar)/Sweden...

I was extracting the michael dude

Voodoomelon · 08-01-2012 04:13PM

mike65 wrote: »

Worst thread of the day?

Nah, the clocking of a 520d takes the crown.

Chuck Stone · 08-01-2012 04:28PM

No such thing as homemade.

RobertFoster · 08-01-2012 04:41PM

Dublin Bus get theirs from Scotland (Alexander-Dennis) AFAIK. Use them for 10+ years and then sell them to private companies in the UK/Ireland.

Big Nasty · 08-01-2012 04:50PM

Here's a fact that is somewhat interesting:

Most countries don't use double decker buses at all and a lot of open top buses that you see being used here end in the UK for city tours and up being exported.

I've seen this now in a few countries, i.e. open top RHD buses in LHD countries. I saw a few recently in Las Vegas touring the strip that still had their UK reg plate on them along with the US one. I didn't take any pics but just found one online of a right hooker in Fisherman's Wharf, San Fran:

L1011 · 08-01-2012 04:52PM

You'd also be surprised how many of the Leyland Olympians in use around the place are ex-Dublin Bus.

Victor · 08-01-2012 04:57PM

RobertFoster wrote: »

Dublin Bus get theirs from Scotland (Alexander-Dennis) AFAIK. Use them for 10+ years and then sell them to private companies in the UK/Ireland.

Also Wright Bus http://www.wrightbus.com/site/default.asp

http://www.dublinbus.ie/en/About-Us/Dublin-Bus-Fleet/

Absurdum · 08-01-2012 04:59PM

it's outrageous Joe!

Terrontress · 08-01-2012 06:54PM

MCMLXXV wrote: »

Here's a fact that is somewhat interesting:
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Most countries don't use double decker buses at all and a lot of open top buses that you see being used here end in the UK for city tours and up being exported.

I've seen this now in a few countries, i.e. open top RHD buses in LHD countries. I saw a few recently in Las Vegas touring the strip that still had their UK reg plate on them along with the US one. I didn't take any pics but just found one online of a right hooker in Fisherman's Wharf, San Fran:

That is interesting. I wonder if they put extra doors in on the other side to allow passengers to alight / board onto the footpath. Or do they pull up facing the traffic or in specially laid out stops.

My uncle who lives in Edinburgh did tell me about being in Argentina and getting on a bus which had an old Lothian Buses sign upstairs which would support your story.

When I was in Hong Kong I explained to the tour guide about where the ubiquitous Wrights buses were made. It took about 3 or 4 goes to explain it and when I finally did she wasn't overly interested.

Stinicker · 08-01-2012 06:59PM

Think about it the market for buses in Ireland would be quite small due to our small size and most likely some of the big bus dealers would have the distribution rights for Ireland too.

MugMugs · 08-01-2012 07:04PM

Blacks Surf school have a 16A down in Achill Island.... Looks class when in remote Ireland you see an old Dublin Bus plodding along.

See a lot of Dublin Bus buses going up the N2 a lot. Presume they get shipped out up North.

There's some of the old Leylands with a preservation order on them too AFAIK.

colm_mcm · 08-01-2012 07:19PM

A huge amount of detail on where the buses went is here

http://www.skylineaviation.co.uk/buses/+Bus-Eireann.html

Saab Ed · 08-01-2012 07:26PM

Del2005 wrote: »

Do we make buses?

Dont go there ....

The first one delivered was diven out of the factory by Albert Reynolds .....and then broke down......then they fixed it ...........then it broke down again. Thats pretty much where and when the Irish bus industry began its sorry end

Oh and if anyone wants to buy one of those newer Irish English buses, they can do here .....

http://www.ensignbus.com/doubledeckers.htm

Big Nasty · 08-01-2012 07:34PM

MugMugs wrote: »

Blacks Surf school have a 16A down in Achill Island.... Looks class when in remote Ireland you see an old Dublin Bus plodding along.

See a lot of Dublin Bus buses going up the N2 a lot. Presume they get shipped out up North.

There's some of the old Leylands with a preservation order on them too AFAIK.

A 16A - is that a bus model then?

Atlantic Dawn · 08-01-2012 07:34PM

Saab Ed wrote: »

Dont go there ....

There was a lot to be said back then for saying a mass prior to opening a factory

corktina · 08-01-2012 07:36PM

MCMLXXV wrote: »

Here's a fact that is somewhat interesting:

Most countries don't use double decker buses at all and a lot of open top buses that you see being used here end in the UK for city tours and up being exported.

I've seen this now in a few countries, i.e. open top RHD buses in LHD countries. I saw a few recently in Las Vegas touring the strip that still had their UK reg plate on them along with the US one. I didn't take any pics but just found one online of a right hooker in Fisherman's Wharf, San Fran:

That one is probably ex London Transport. Its a MetroBus.

Big Nasty · 08-01-2012 07:46PM

corktina wrote: »

That one is probably ex London Transport. Its a MetroBus.

Yeah, it's funny seeing buses that were obviously primarily used in the UK running in Vegas / San Fran.

Nissan doctor · 08-01-2012 07:52PM

Has every vehicle on the road in Ireland not come on a boat from somewhere?:rolleyes:

MugMugs · 08-01-2012 08:25PM

MCMLXXV wrote: »

MugMugs wrote: »

Blacks Surf school have a 16A down in Achill Island.... Looks class when in remote Ireland you see an old Dublin Bus plodding along.

See a lot of Dublin Bus buses going up the N2 a lot. Presume they get shipped out up North.

There's some of the old Leylands with a preservation order on them too AFAIK.

A 16A - is that a bus model then?

Yup... A fancy hybrid job.

L1011 · 08-01-2012 08:26PM

Stinicker wrote: »

Think about it the market for buses in Ireland would be quite small due to our small size and most likely some of the big bus dealers would have the distribution rights for Ireland too.

Dublin Bus are plenty big enough to buy directly - no dealers involved.

-Corkie- · 08-01-2012 08:40PM

MYOB wrote: »

Dublin Bus are plenty big enough to buy directly - no dealers involved.

Along with Kavanaghs. They have a load of stuff that never sees this country..

MugMugs · 08-01-2012 08:43PM

Where else do they operate ?

Inbox · 08-01-2012 08:44PM

What kind of engines do buses use, how powerful are they, what's the mpg? Anybody know?

ballooba · 08-01-2012 09:22PM

Saw two brand new Scottish ambulances on the back of a truck on the M4 today. It's not all one way!

L1011 · 08-01-2012 09:25PM

ballooba wrote: »

Saw two brand new Scottish ambulances on the back of a truck on the M4 today. It's not all one way!

There's ambulance, fire engine and road gritter manufacturers in the midlands/west. They're all built on European van chassis though. Have seen brand new Highway Authority branded Romaquip gritters on a flatbed before.

-Corkie- · 08-01-2012 09:26PM

MugMugs wrote: »

Where else do they operate ?

The UK mostly doing continental work. They have savage gear alltogether, some of the Vanhools are about 250k new......

MugMugs · 08-01-2012 09:26PM

ballooba wrote: »

Saw two brand new Scottish ambulances on the back of a truck on the M4 today. It's not all one way!

Heading to Dublin? Par Fit have a big contract with them.

guil · 08-01-2012 09:49PM

theres about 20 single deck and 10 double deck buses waiting in naas to be registered for bus eireann

urajoke · 08-01-2012 10:12PM

Inbox wrote: »

What kind of engines do buses use, how powerful are they, what's the mpg? Anybody know?

London Bus have ordered new buses with new engines that were 60% more fuel efficient at roughly 6mpg !

Volvo B7TL has a 7.3 litre diesel engine with between 215 and 250 hp.

They're PUT TOGETHER in Irvine in Scotland from a chassis from Sweden. Dublin Bus bought 650 of these over the years.

Bus Éireann buy their buses from Britain

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