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Passport control in Dublin Airport flying from UK

  • 11-07-2012 02:22PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,940 ✭✭✭


    for the past few years i've been flying into dublin airport and they have that new(ish) passport control in T1. have always had my passport so never had any issue.

    but just wondering, on flights from the UK, do they accept a driving license if you travel with that? i've never noticed anyone show anything other than a passport on the odd time that i didn't fly ryanair, so not sure.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,606 ✭✭✭schemingbohemia


    Yes they'll accept most things - obviously Passport would lead to fewer questions being asked but they can accept Bus/Luas ID, work ID etc. There's no obligation to carry any ID so you could just go howerya and see what they say but I wouldn't recommend it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 498 ✭✭lasno


    A driving licence is sufficient, just hold on to your boarding card in case they ask you for proof that you came from the UK. These days most people carry their passport, since some airlines require it for boarding, (Ryanair)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 122 ✭✭G-unit10


    Yes they'll accept most things - obviously Passport would lead to fewer questions being asked but they can accept Bus/Luas ID, work ID etc. There's no obligation to carry any ID so you could just go howerya and see what they say but I wouldn't recommend it.

    Ofcourse there is !!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,441 ✭✭✭jhegarty


    G-unit10 wrote: »
    Ofcourse there is !!!

    Not for the purpose of passport control.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,364 ✭✭✭golden lane


    i went from bristol to dublin and back without id.........not worth the hassle, but it is possible......

    that was two years ago........

    as the is no id required on the ferry.....it is just the airline rules you need to comply with.....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,940 ✭✭✭ballsymchugh


    Yes they'll accept most things - obviously Passport would lead to fewer questions being asked but they can accept Bus/Luas ID, work ID etc. There's no obligation to carry any ID so you could just go howerya and see what they say but I wouldn't recommend it.

    i've been laughing at this all afternoon.

    it's for 'herself indoors', as they say charmingly over here.
    i'll tell her she'll be fine, before the whisk her away for some questioning then!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,723 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    It's no big deal travelling to the UK with basic ID (excl. Ryanair), the issue I'd worry about is trying to get past Sharon in Stanstead with a Dublin Bus photo card or an employee ID card so I simply carry my passport all the time, makes life a lot easier when boarding the flight home.

    The Gardai in Dublin airport are fine, just show them your boarding card to prove you've arrived from the UK and some form of id and they'll wave you through if you choose to travel without your passport but to smooth things in UK airports coming home I always bring the passport.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,940 ✭✭✭ballsymchugh


    coylemj wrote: »
    It's no big deal travelling to the UK with basic ID (excl. Ryanair), the issue I'd worry about is trying to get past Sharon in Stanstead with a Dublin Bus photo card or an employee ID card so I simply carry my passport all the time, makes life a lot easier when boarding the flight home.

    The Gardai in Dublin airport are fine, just show them your boarding card to prove you've arrived from the UK and some form of id and they'll wave you through if you choose to travel without your passport but to smooth things in UK airports coming home I always bring the passport.

    gatwick and stansted have dedicated channels for passengers from inside ireland and uk. you just need the boarding pass. it's been the VERY odd time (maybe 3 times in 10 years of pretty frequent travelling) that there's been no one there in stansted and i had to queue in the regular passport queue.

    but there's no equivalent of that in dublin, or at least if there is, they don't make it as obvious.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,723 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    gatwick and stansted have dedicated channels for passengers from inside ireland and uk. you just need the boarding pass. it's been the VERY odd time (maybe 3 times in 10 years of pretty frequent travelling) that there's been no one there in stansted and i had to queue in the regular passport queue.

    I was referring to the benefit of having a passport when coming home, not on arriving in the UK. When you land in T1 in Heathrow, nobody asks you for anything, I just breezed through two weeks ago, straight from the plane through the baggage hall and out into the arrivals hall.

    I was commenting on the advantage of having a passport when departing from a UK airport. You need some form of ID before they'll let you board the plane and my attitude is that everyone will accept a passport whereas the UK people at the gate may be confused by other forms of identification.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,940 ✭✭✭ballsymchugh


    coylemj wrote: »
    I was referring to the benefit of having a passport when coming home, not on arriving in the UK. When you land in T1 in Heathrow, nobody asks you for anything, I just breezed through two weeks ago, straight from the plane through the baggage hall and out into the arrivals hall.

    I was commenting on the advantage of having a passport when departing from a UK airport. You need some form of ID before they'll let you board the plane and my attitude is that everyone will accept a passport whereas the UK people at the gate may be confused by other forms of identification.

    ah get you now. try taking an irish driving license to a uk police station. hilarity usually ensues...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,940 ✭✭✭munchkin_utd


    i went from bristol to dublin and back without id.........not worth the hassle, but it is possible......

    that was two years ago........

    as the is no id required on the ferry.....it is just the airline rules you need to comply with.....
    exactly! No ID is required for immigration purposes between Ireland and the UK for Irish/ British citizens whether on ferry OR flights

    since the 9-11 incident, airlines now want you to provide ID so they know who they are transporting, but thats nothing to do with immigration and is a security issue.

    Theres a free travel area in place between Ireland and the UK which is in existance because of the open border between Ireland and the UK that runs from derry/donegal right around to louth/armagh. If it was the case that you were required by law to show a passport for immigration purposes on arrival at a UK airport from Ireland - then you would also need to have passport checks on every Ireland/UK land crossing too to ensure completeness.

    Northern Ireland is as British as Finchley meaning that crossing at the Carrickdale there near Dundalk is EXACTLY THE SAME as landing at Heathrow or stanstead from Dublin or Cork.
    You are simply going from IRL to the UK whether on land crossings or arriving at a UK airport.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,606 ✭✭✭schemingbohemia


    G-unit10 wrote: »
    Ofcourse there is !!!


    Any chance of explaining that view?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,768 ✭✭✭✭Marcusm


    G-unit10 wrote: »
    Ofcourse there is !!!

    Complete and utter rubbish and not advice I've accepted from the Garda in the airport either. Irish and British citizens on a local journey within the common travel area are not subject to immigration restrictions. Once the Garda or immigration official is satisfied that you're Irish or British and have arrived from UK (boarding pass) they have no authority under Irish law to ask you to prove your identity. If they have reasonable grounds for suspecting you're not Irish/British they may detain you but they would have to form that positive opinion rather than seeking as a matter of course. The Irish consulate in London is very clear on this point.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    coylemj wrote: »
    I was referring to the benefit of having a passport when coming home, not on arriving in the UK. When you land in T1 in Heathrow, nobody asks you for anything, I just breezed through two weeks ago, straight from the plane through the baggage hall and out into the arrivals hall.

    I was commenting on the advantage of having a passport when departing from a UK airport. You need some form of ID before they'll let you board the plane and my attitude is that everyone will accept a passport whereas the UK people at the gate may be confused by other forms of identification.

    It's only ryanair from.Stansted and they insist on a passport anyway.

    I always take a passport, but for the couple of weeks it was off being renewed I used my driving licence with both BMI and aer lingus no problem at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,723 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    I always take a passport, but for the couple of weeks it was off being renewed I used my driving licence with both BMI and aer lingus no problem at all.

    Airline employees are no problem, I'm thinking of the cretins that are occasionally employed by ground handling companies who wouldn't know the difference between an Irish driving licence and a Tesco clubcard.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    as the is no id required on the ferry.....it is just the airline rules you need to comply with.....

    I think that has changed now too and ferries have required ID for the last few months.

    I stand corrected on this as I haven't taken a ferry in almost a year. I am going to London via Holyhead for the Olympics but I'll have a Passport anyway. I wouldn't risk travelling without ID whether its required or not. Too much hassle from people in various types of uniform who don't have a clue.

    Having said that, I took the Irish Ferries, Rosslare - Cherbourg sailing just over 2 years ago on a rail/sail from Galway - Paris and wasn't asked for ID once along the way.
    Just my ticket when checking in at the ferryport.
    Never took my passport out of my bag between my house here and my friends flat in Paris !


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,597 ✭✭✭WIZE


    I guessing with the Olympics on Security will be high so better bring ID


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,364 ✭✭✭golden lane


    It's only ryanair from.Stansted and they insist on a passport anyway.

    I always take a passport, but for the couple of weeks it was off being renewed I used my driving licence with both BMI and aer lingus no problem at all.

    i had trouble flying from stanstead to belfast.....but after a lot of humming and hawing they let me on.....i had no id......i offered my debit card....but they neverv looked at it....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,364 ✭✭✭golden lane


    Lapin wrote: »
    I think that has changed now too and ferries have required ID for the last few months.

    I stand corrected on this as I haven't taken a ferry in almost a year. I am going to London via Holyhead for the Olympics but I'll have a Passport anyway. I wouldn't risk travelling without ID whether its required or not. Too much hassle from people in various types of uniform who don't have a clue.

    Having said that, I took the Irish Ferries, Rosslare - Cherbourg sailing just over 2 years ago on a rail/sail from Galway - Paris and wasn't asked for ID once along the way.
    Just my ticket when checking in at the ferryport.
    Never took my passport out of my bag between my house here and my friends flat in Paris !

    over a year since i travelled on the ferry....no id then.....i have never carried id when travelling between the uk and ireland......or between north and south......


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    over a year since i travelled on the ferry....no id then.....i have never carried id when travelling between the uk and ireland......or between north and south......

    I always carried ID on ferries but it was seldom if ever checked.

    There were many times when I didn't even have a ticket to check.

    I often boarded a bus (Slatterys) opposite The Crown in Cricklewood, London in the early 90s, handed the driver £20, and drank and smoked my way up the M1 before waking up as it was been driven onto the boat.

    After the crossing (spent in the bar) it was back down to the vehicle deck to get back on the same bus and sleep off my hangover on rest of the trip to Galway.

    Ticketless travel long before the airlines ever heard of it !

    I expect ID will be a requirement during the Olympics, however games aside, I remember reading somewhere late last year that foot passengers would be required to book ferry crossings at least 48 hours before travelling from the end of March 2012 onwards. It would no longer be possible to simply turn up at the port or a railway station, buy a ticket and jump on.

    Anyone know if this is the case ?

    Bummer if it is.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    I sailed and railed to London and back in June and just turned up, paid and went without ever showing anything other than a few crisp tenners.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,940 ✭✭✭ballsymchugh


    in 10 years of going back and forth, with driving home at Christmas time, i've only been asked for my passport once, when i turned up late for the ferry in pembroke on Christmas eve, and they kindly let me on board anyway.
    drove back again from dun laoghaire in may and was never asked for anything other than the booking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,723 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    Never been asked for ID on the Irish Sea ferries since the bad old days in the 70s when the cops in Holyhead used to treat the Paddies like muck.

    Brought my car three times to France and was never asked for my passport, the French cops just stood there gaping at us as we all drove off the boat in Roscoff or Cherbourg.


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