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OS X Mountain Lion (10.8) to be released July 25th?

  • 03-07-2012 02:00PM
    #1
    DubDJ
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    Apple announced yesterday that their Q3 2012 results will be released on Tuesday, July 24th.

    However last year during the conference call they announced that OS X Lion would be released the following day. This could be the same with Mountain Lion. It was supposed to be released the end of July so it fits in perfectly with that timeline.

    So if Apple does the same as last year OS X Mountain Lion will be released on Wednesday July 25th at 6pm GMT (Irish Time).

    Looking forward to it.
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  • #2
    Sad Professor
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    Yeah, the 24th or 25th looks likely. It should be going GM soon and they need about 2-3 weeks for developers to test their apps.


  • #3
    fox007
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    Sad Professor wrote: »
    Yeah, the 24th or 25th looks likely. It should be going GM soon and they need about 2-3 weeks for developers to test their apps.


    Will mountain run smoother than lion? since I upgraded to lion on my 2010 Mac book pro it's running sluggish and the beach ball keeps spinning when I open safari, iTunes etc


  • #4
    DubDJ
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,360 ✭✭✭DubDJ


    Sad Professor wrote: »
    Yeah, the 24th or 25th looks likely. It should be going GM soon and they need about 2-3 weeks for developers to test their apps.

    There's supposed to be one final update released for 10.7 as well. Bringing it up to 10.7.5. I'd say it'll get people ready for ML and also get rid of MobileMe support in the settings. I thought it would be released this week with the 10.8 GM seeded to Devs. But what I've noticied is Apple seem to release software to Devs on Fridays. And releas stuff for consumers on Wednesday.


  • #5
    Sad Professor
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    fox007 wrote: »
    Will mountain run smoother than lion? since I upgraded to lion on my 2010 Mac book pro it's running sluggish and the beach ball keeps spinning when I open safari, iTunes etc

    Unlikely because that's not a Lion problem. It's an issue with your particular set-up. I've a 2009 MBP running Lion with one of those issues. You probably need to do a clean install.


  • #6
    stimpson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,863 ✭✭✭stimpson


    I just saw the minimum spec and they have dropped support for many older Macs. I'm hugely disappointed as I was planning a clean install on my 2007 mini.

    I'm half tempted to go back to Snow Leopard as I'd love Samba to work again.

    Really bad form from Apple. Are we to expect 4 years lifespan from a machine now? Only a couple of months ago I helped a girl in work buy a MacBook Air to replace her 10 year old TiBook.


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  • #7
    Sad Professor
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    You can get Samba back without downgrading. See my last post in this thread

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056334078


  • #8
    brav
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 895 ✭✭✭brav


    stimpson wrote: »
    Really bad form from Apple. Are we to expect 4 years lifespan from a machine now? Only a couple of months ago I helped a girl in work buy a MacBook Air to replace her 10 year old TiBook.

    That person that upgraded probably was not on the latest OS X but Tiger or something.

    If you want to be on the latest OS I would expect to update H/W every 4 years.


  • #9
    stimpson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,863 ✭✭✭stimpson


    Sad Professor wrote: »
    You can get Samba back without downgrading. See my last post in this thread

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056334078

    Nice one. I've been looking for a fix for ages. Lion with Samba it is so.


  • #10
    stimpson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,863 ✭✭✭stimpson


    brav wrote: »
    That person that upgraded probably was not on the latest OS X but Tiger or something.

    If you want to be on the latest OS I would expect to update H/W every 4 years.

    I think it was Tiger, but the TiBook was a completely different architecture. There are Core 2 Duos that will run Mountain Lion. Macs with the older Intel graphics chipsets could probably run ML if Apple chose to ship drivers.


  • #11
    Sad Professor
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    Apple dropping support for machines that seem like they could still run ML is annoying, but it's nothing new. As best I can remember, 4-5 years has always been the cutoff, with Snow Leopard dropping support for some machines that were less than 3 years old. This is one area where Windows PC users have an advantage since Microsoft has far greater motivation to make Windows work on older hardware.

    Still, a mid-2007 Mini would be 5 years old now. That's actually pretty good going if you bought the machine in 2007. The Mini has gone through long periods of neglect though, so anyone with that particular model may suffer more since Apple was still selling it until early 2009.

    I'm hoping I might get another OS upgrade out of my 2009 MBP, but the graphics card is on the current cut-off point for ML, so I may not.


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  • #12
    stimpson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,863 ✭✭✭stimpson


    Sad Professor wrote: »
    Apple dropping support for machines that seem like they could still run ML is annoying, but it's nothing new. As best I can remember, 4-5 years has always been the cutoff, with Snow Leopard dropping support for some machines that were less than 3 years old. This is one area where Windows PC users have an advantage since Microsoft has far greater motivation to make Windows work on older hardware.

    SL dropped PPC support which was reasonable as they had shifted to new architecture. Lion had a cutoff at 64 bit processors. Again a reasonable cut to make as they could drop 32 bit support in the kernel. This seems to be fairly arbitrary as the mini has a Core2Duo so should have enough welly for the OS. I don't see any new features that would require the latest and greatest video chipsets, so I figure its' planned obsolescence.
    Still, a mid-2007 Mini would be 5 years old now. That's actually pretty good going if you bought the machine in 2007. The Mini has gone through long periods of neglect though, so anyone with that particular model may suffer more since Apple was still selling it until early 2009.

    I'm hoping I might get another OS upgrade out of my 2009 MBP, but the graphics card is on the current cut-off point for ML, so I may not.

    I know my mini has had a good innings, but it still does all I need of it (web, torrent and Plex Client and Server) and I've invested a few quid in upgrades (waiting in vain for a USB3 mini to ship) which will be lost unless the next mini has eSATA. Coupled with the fact that my MacBook and work machine will make the cut, it's going to be annoying that the mini can't keep up.


  • #13
    Dont be at yourself
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    GM seeded to developers this evening. Anyone going to bite the bullet? :)


  • #14
    DubDJ
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,360 ✭✭✭DubDJ


    Apple just released the Golden Master seed of OS X 10.8 to developers. Should be out for consumers on the 25th hopefully.


  • #15
    Red Alert
    Hosted Moderators Posts: 7,486 ✭✭✭Red Alert


    I'll be trying to find how to turn OFF notification centre as quick as possible.


  • #16
    Sad Professor
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    Personally I think Notification Centre will be invaluable. Even if you have alerts disabled (there's a Do Not Disturb switch), being able to swipe once to reveal all your notifications is really convenient. I can understand you wanting to disable alerts that pop-up and are a distraction (one of the reasons I never liked Growl), but I don't know why you'd want to disable Notification Centre entirely. It doesn't get in your way. Just swipe out when you need it.


  • #17
    conor.hogan.2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,246 ✭✭✭conor.hogan.2


    Can you install ML straight from SL, or will I have to use my Lion install then buy ML then install that?

    This will all be on the .1 or .2, to avoid Apples public Beta period.


  • #18
    Sad Professor
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    No, you can go straight from SL to ML. No need to purchase or install Lion.


  • #19
    Sad Professor
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    It's kind of strange that Preview and TextEdit now support iCloud given that they have no iOS counterparts. Although it's handy if you have more than one Mac, I guess.

    Safari 6 flies! Scrolling is silky smooth.


  • #20
    DubDJ
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,360 ✭✭✭DubDJ


    Sad Professor wrote: »
    It's kind of strange that Preview and TextEdit now support iCloud given that they have no iOS counterparts. Although it's handy if you have more than one Mac, I guess.

    Safari 6 flies! Scrolling is silky smooth.

    Can't wait for the Omnibar in Safari. And better iCloud syncing. I sometimes can't remember websites i've been on with my Mac. It'll be handy having them ll in sync now.


  • #21
    stimpson
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    Sad Professor wrote: »
    It's kind of strange that Preview and TextEdit now support iCloud given that they have no iOS counterparts.

    Not yet anyway!


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  • #22
    conor.hogan.2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,246 ✭✭✭conor.hogan.2


    Any files created in textedit and preview work fine on any text or pdf app on iOS surely? If you use iCloud does it not just sync to the phones memory and then you open it in your favorite app?

    They do on Android anyway, I have been syncing them vis dropbox and other apps for ages with no problem.


  • #23
    acous
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 486 ✭✭acous


    Sad Professor wrote: »
    Safari 6 flies! Scrolling is silky smooth.

    Amazing. Chrome feels like firefox now. How did they make it so fast? :)


  • #24
    tylerdurden94
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,755 ✭✭✭tylerdurden94


    How do I go about claiming my upgrade to Mountain Lion?


  • #25
    Sad Professor
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    tylerdurden94 wrote: »
    How do I go about claiming my upgrade to Mountain Lion?

    There will be instruction here when it is released:

    http://www.apple.com/ie/osx/uptodate/


  • #26
    tylerdurden94
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,755 ✭✭✭tylerdurden94


    Sad Professor wrote: »
    There will be instruction here when it is released:

    http://www.apple.com/ie/osx/uptodate/

    Always on the trolley SP :)

    I had read that earlier but got confused by this part :confused:
    Customers must request their Up-to-Date upgrade within 30 days of purchasing their Mac computer. Customers who purchase a qualifying Mac between 11 June 2012 and the date when Mountain Lion is available in the Mac App Store will have 30 days from the OS X Mountain Lion release date to make a request.


  • #27
    Sad Professor
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    Yeah, it's very poorly worded. Just ignore the first sentence.


  • #28
    anthony4335
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    Sorry if this has been asked and answered already, but if I upgrade to ML will I have to reinstall all the applications, such as MS office and photoshop ?


  • #29
    Zapp Brannigan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,326 ✭✭✭Zapp Brannigan


    anthony4335 wrote: »
    Sorry if this has been asked and answered already, but if I upgrade to ML will I have to reinstall all the applications, such as MS office and photoshop ?

    Not if you do an upgrade install.


  • #30
    anthony4335
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,028 ✭✭✭anthony4335


    Thanks a mil.


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  • #31
    Zapp Brannigan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,326 ✭✭✭Zapp Brannigan


    Bugger just saw that only 2011 models onwards support Wireless Mirroring in ML. That was the feature I was looking forward to the most!


  • #32
    DubDJ
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,360 ✭✭✭DubDJ


    Zapp Brannigan wrote: »
    Bugger just saw that only 2011 models onwards support Wireless Mirroring in ML. That was the feature I was looking forward to the most!

    Yep, very strict cut offs for AirPlay Mirroring. My MacBook Pro is under 1 year old and I've seen conflicting reports on whether I'll get it or not. Think I'll just make the cut though.


  • #33
    crazyderk
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    I wonder will there be ways around mirroring for older models? I've a 2009 macbook pro and I was really looking forward to this!

    edit:

    found this might give it a go

    http://www.appletvhacks.net/2012/02/23/airplay-mirror-your-macs-screen-to-apple-tv-with-airparrot/


  • #34
    grizzly
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    Does anyone know a the complete list of information supported in notification centre? Does it have twitter support?

    Also is there alternate ways of viewing notification banners?


  • #35
    Sad Professor
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    Notification Centre is pretty much the same as its iOS counterpart. It does support Twitter, but only for mentions and DMs. This will probably change once the third party Mac clients add support.


  • #36
    acous
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    Notification Center is a little underwhelming so far. I get a lot of alerts in banners but most of them don't end up in the sidebar. Also is there no way to sync your notifications between phone and mac? That would've been cool.

    Time will tell if third parties can make better use of it. Have to say the gesture for opening it is sweet.


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  • #37
    DubDJ
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    acous wrote: »
    Notification Center is a little underwhelming so far. I get a lot of alerts in banners but most of them don't end up in the sidebar. Also is there no way to sync your notifications between phone and mac? That would've been cool.

    Time will tell if third parties can make better use of it. Have to say the gesture for opening it is sweet.

    One of the new features of iOS 6 is iCloud support for Notification Centre. I can see it coming to OS X soon. But for now i'll be glad of it on the iPhone and iPad.


  • #38
    DubDJ
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    Rumours that Apple has planned overnights in their stores for July 24th have started to surface. A July 25th Mountain Lion release date likely.

    More info here.


  • #39
    taylorconor95
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    Dont be at yourself wrote: »
    GM seeded to developers this evening. Anyone going to bite the bullet? :)

    Just did. Wow.


  • #40
    dmcg90
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    Much better? How hard is it to do a clean install? My mac on lion is pretty slow (2011 MBP 13" base model).

    Probably going to be €24.99 isn't it?


  • #41
    taylorconor95
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 331 ✭✭taylorconor95


    dmcg90 wrote: »
    Much better? How hard is it to do a clean install? My mac on lion is pretty slow (2011 MBP 13" base model).

    Probably going to be €24.99 isn't it?

    Meh its a little faster on my machine, but I didn't do a clean install. I think its actually supposed to be €19.99


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  • #42
    dmcg90
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    taylorconor95 wrote: »
    Meh its a little faster on my machine, but I didn't do a clean install. I think its actually supposed to be €19.99

    I think I need to, something is slowing my machine desperate.

    If its $19.99 in the US I don't think it'll equate to the same price here, maybe €22.99/£19.99


  • #43
    Sad Professor
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    French price is €15.99


  • #44
    DubDJ
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    $19.99 US so for us should be €15.99. When it comes to App store downloads we get the normal prices just like on the iOS app store.


  • #45
    taylorconor95
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 331 ✭✭taylorconor95


    Whatever the price, this is absoloute madness:


  • #46
    Colonel Panic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,055 ✭✭✭Colonel Panic


    Are you talking about the memory usage of kernel task? Seems normal enough to me.


  • #47
    fjon
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    crazyderk wrote: »
    I wonder will there be ways around mirroring for older models? I've a 2009 macbook pro and I was really looking forward to this!

    edit:

    found this might give it a go

    http://www.appletvhacks.net/2012/02/23/airplay-mirror-your-macs-screen-to-apple-tv-with-airparrot/

    Did you ever try this out? I'm pretty disappointed too that my laptop can't use AirPlay mirroring, but this app may work instead.


  • #48
    dmcg90
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    DubDJ wrote: »
    $19.99 US so for us should be €15.99. When it comes to App store downloads we get the normal prices just like on the iOS app store.
    Sad Professor wrote: »
    French price is €15.99

    Awesome!


  • #49
    jack presley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    Airplay was the main reason I was thinking of upgrading. If it won't work on my '10 Imac I don't know if I'll bother.


  • #50
    taylorconor95
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 331 ✭✭taylorconor95


    Oh and I didn't realise until now but software update is integrated into the mac app store.


  • #51
    godtabh
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,260 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    I'm relatively new to mac and this will be my first taste of an update.

    How does this work? Is it a fresh install? Is it a painless process?


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