Work life balance is €50 worth it?

Ray Palmer · 24-01-2013 10:21AM #1

So I get paid a daily rate which is a decent wage. Many would say I am overpaid but if it so easy to do they can get the same job. Anyway there is a role similar to my current role and it pays an extra €50 a day but after tax that is about €23.
The journey time would at least double from 25 mins to about 1 hour each way.
Assuming the wage I earn is enough as is would people bother?
Commuting now is pretty much free but the new commute would cost €6 per day. There is a carear advantage to the change too.
So for an extra 70 mins a day I'd get €17.
I don't think it is worth it but the wife thinks I should do it for the carear advantage

Nuttzz · 24-01-2013 10:25AM

behind every great man, there is a great woman. listen to your wife.

If there is a career advantage then you will have the potential to make even more money down the road, look at the big picture

whomitconcerns · 24-01-2013 10:26AM

thats an extra 11.6 days per year at €351/day (17*5*48)...so down to you if the career advantage is worth it. Doesnt seem too bad a return though!

Zulu · 24-01-2013 10:31AM

Tough call. I take it you are contracting? If it's IT, are you learning anything new in your current role? (If not, you could be slowly screwing yourself in the long run by staying and getting stale)

Micky Dolenz · 24-01-2013 10:31AM

Alwayd listen to your missus. If things go tits up you can blame herself.

irelandrover · 24-01-2013 10:32AM

Honestly I'd say it's not worth it unless it is a really big career step and the travel time would not be long term. You currently have a good salary and a relatively short travel time and that is worth more than the 17 a day.
I'm currently doing an hour each way to work and fortunately will be cutting that to 25 minutes next month.

dr.bollocko · 24-01-2013 10:33AM

You need to learn to enjoy your time commuting more.

Urinate on other passengers. Throw chips at people. Shoot up some heroin. Perhaps follow that up by puking messily into a can of dutch gold. Then kick the can so that everyone gets a piece.

whomitconcerns · 24-01-2013 10:37AM

dr.bollocko wrote: »

You need to learn to enjoy your time commuting more.

Urinate on other passengers. Throw chips at people. Shoot up some heroin. Perhaps follow that up by puking messily into a can of dutch gold. Then kick the can so that everyone gets a piece.

Dont forget to listen to music loudly on your mobile phone speaker..it really is a nice way to share!

Where To · 24-01-2013 10:38AM

Do whatever you're happpiest doing. 100000 a day isn't enough if you don't like your job

Ray Palmer · 24-01-2013 10:47AM

Zulu wrote: »

Tough call. I take it you are contracting? If it's IT, are you learning anything new in your current role? (If not, you could be slowly screwing yourself in the long run by staying and getting stale)

Not really too much to learn in either role beyond what I know already. It is a slight move to management. I probably will make the jump up anyway without the role so it isn't a once in a lifetime chance.
In no rush right now so I think that is why I am not bothered. I read before for every 20mins of commuting you lose an hour of social life. I find it believable

AnonoBoy · 24-01-2013 10:48AM

Where To wrote: »

Do whatever you're happpiest doing. 100000 a day isn't enough if you don't like your job

Course it is.

Lots of people don't like their jobs for 600 euro a week.

Ray Palmer · 24-01-2013 10:52AM

Where To wrote: »

Do whatever you're happpiest doing. 100000 a day isn't enough if you don't like your job

I agree but putting up with something to move along can be worth it.

MurdyWurdy · 24-01-2013 10:56AM

Personally, I wouldn't for an extra €23 a day. Extra commuting sucks balls.

The only reason I would is if you really didn't like your job now and you thought the new one was going to make you a lot happier/content/interested/stimulated.

24-01-2013 11:06AM

Unless it's a real step up career wise, or unless you really need that extra cash, or if you really want a change, then no, I wouldn't move.

5 hours less a week to yourself before you even take into consideration the trains/buses/luas being cancelled due to adverse weather conditions or the likes. Nah.

Where To · 24-01-2013 11:08AM

AnonoBoy wrote: »

Course it is.

Lots of people don't like their jobs for 600 euro a week.

They shouldn't be doing it then.

AnonoBoy · 24-01-2013 11:13AM

Where To wrote: »

They shouldn't be doing it then.

What a lovely world you live in where everyone gets to do the job they love and not have to live with the harsh realities of the fact that not everyone has the luxury of doing that really all the time but yet still have to pay rent, support their children, feed and clothe the family and carry on living.

D1stant · 24-01-2013 11:15AM

Ray Palmer wrote: »

So I get paid a daily rate which is a decent wage. Many would say I am overpaid but if it so easy to do they can get the same job. Anyway there is a role similar to my current role and it pays an extra €50 a day but after tax that is about €23.
The journey time would at least double from 25 mins to about 1 hour each way.
Assuming the wage I earn is enough as is would people bother?
Commuting now is pretty much free but the new commute would cost €6 per day. There is a carear advantage to the change too.
So for an extra 70 mins a day I'd get €17.
I don't think it is worth it but the wife thinks I should do it for the carear advantage

Thats a real First World problem there Ray.

Just pack it in and go on the dole. Zero commute, no expenses

Where To · 24-01-2013 11:16AM

AnonoBoy wrote: »

What a lovely world you live in where everyone gets to do the job they love and not have to live with the harsh realities of the fact that not everyone has the luxury of doing that really all the time but yet still have to pay rent, support their children, feed and clothe the family and carry on living.

As opposed to doing a job you don't give a **** about, where you're no good to anybody, least of all yourself?

Ray Palmer · 24-01-2013 11:16AM

AnonoBoy wrote: »

What a lovely world you live in where everyone gets to do the job they love and not have to live with the harsh realities of the fact that not everyone has the luxury of doing that really all the time but yet still have to pay rent, support their children, feed and clothe the family and carry on living.

In relation to what my question is about what was said is relevant. It is about extra money, carear advancement and travel time.

Ray Palmer · 24-01-2013 11:21AM

D1stant wrote: »

Thats a real First World problem there Ray.

Just pack it in and go on the dole. Zero commute, no expenses

Not really as we aren't a first world country;)
Work life balance is a real thing in our country and it doesn't matter what happens in poorer countries.

smcgiff · 24-01-2013 11:22AM

Ray Palmer wrote: »

In relation to what my question is about what was said is relevant.

No, no it wasn't.

You seem to have made your mind up before posting. So why post?

Thinly veiled... I have a wife or
Thinly veiled... I'm great at my job I am

24-01-2013 11:24AM

Ray Palmer wrote: »

In relation to what my question is about what was said is relevant. It is about extra money, carear advancement and travel time.

I thought that said time travel and I was all like :eek: take the goddamn job.

Disappointed

Nonoperational · 24-01-2013 11:29AM

Where To wrote: »

They shouldn't be doing it then.

I'd venture to say that the majority of people don't "like" their jobs. Of that half most tolerate it without hating it, but a considerable proportion dislike it too.

Going out and working is a necessity for most.

Ray Palmer · 24-01-2013 11:34AM

smcgiff wrote: »

No, no it wasn't.

You seem to have made your mind up before posting. So why post?

Thinly veiled... I have a wife or
Thinly veiled... I'm great at my job I am

Well I think it is and I found your comments not relevant given what I said.

Thinly veiled I have chip on my shoulder comments from you.

I haven't decided yet either.

Where To · 24-01-2013 11:35AM

Nonoperational wrote: »

I'd venture to say that the majority of people don't "like" their jobs. Of that half most tolerate it without hating it, but a considerable proportion dislike it too.

Going out and working is a necessity for most.

You're probably right, unfortunately.

AnonoBoy · 24-01-2013 11:38AM

Where To wrote: »

As opposed to doing a job you don't give a **** about, where you're no good to anybody, least of all yourself?

I don't know about that. Bringing home a pay cheque that ensures your children don't go hungry, your home is kept and your family's needs are taken care of? That's not being no good to anybody.

I agree, yes that people should strive to do what they're happy doing but take a look outside dude - it's not all meadows and ****ing sunshine out there at the moment. There's more to life than work and I think manning up and going to work even in a job that you're not particularly fond of is taking responsibility and providing for your loved ones. And without being too soppy - having a happy family around you will make you happy.

sfwcork · 24-01-2013 11:45AM

dont believe you have a missus

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Where To · 24-01-2013 11:45AM

AnonoBoy wrote: »

I don't know about that. Bringing home a pay cheque that ensures your children don't go hungry, your home is kept and your family's needs are taken care of? That's not being no good to anybody.

I agree, yes that people should strive to do what they're happy doing but Imtake a look outside dude - it's not all meadows and ****ing sunshine out there at the moment. There's more to life than work and I think manning up and going to work even in a job that you're not particularly fond of is taking responsibility and providing for your loved ones. And without being too soppy - having a happy family around you will make you happy.

I agree there's more to life than work, so why waste your time doing a job you hate?

It's makes life a lot easier to have twice the satisfaction from half the effort than to have half the satisfaction from twice the effort.

o1s1n · 24-01-2013 11:51AM

Where To wrote: »

I agree there's more to life than work, so why waste your time doing a job you hate?

It's makes life a lot easier to have twice the satisfaction from half the effort than to have half the satisfaction from twice the effort.

There's a big difference between 'doing a job you don't like' and 'doing a job you hate'.

The latter I would say is mental to stick with, but the former (and the boat a lot of people are in) is pretty normal.

Where To · 24-01-2013 11:57AM

o1s1n wrote: »

There's a big difference between 'doing a job you don't like' and 'doing a job you hate'.

The latter I would say is mental to stick with, but the former (and the boat a lot of people are in) is pretty normal.

I don't think they are any different. Neither are a job you 'want' to do, and I believe that if you are doing something youu don't want to then you are just wasting everyone's time, including your own.

AnonoBoy · 24-01-2013 12:00PM

Where To wrote: »

I agree there's more to life than work, so why waste your time doing a job you hate?

It's makes life a lot easier to have twice the satisfaction from half the effort than to have half the satisfaction from twice the effort.

My point is that not everyone gets to do a job they like.

Some people might love to be writing film reviews for Empire or be a master brewer for Jameson or drive race cars for Ferrari but they don't have the skills or the wit or the intelligence or the luck or whatever to get to do it.

Sometimes life goes: "Oh you want to be a jockey? Tough sh*t you're 6'5"." or "You want to be a personal trainer? Here have a gammy leg that won't allow you to run properly."

So why it's all well and good and inspirational-postery to say "Do something you love and you'll never work a day in your life" it doesn't always work out that way for everyone.

Me? I've got a f*cking great job me, so I'm ok.

smcgiff · 24-01-2013 12:05PM

Where To wrote: »

I believe that if you are doing something youu don't want to then you are just wasting everyone's time, including your own.

Come off it... We can't all be taxi drivers

Where To · 24-01-2013 12:09PM

AnonoBoy wrote: »

My point is that not everyone gets to do a job they like.

Some people might love to be writing film reviews for Empire or be a master brewer for Jameson or drive race cars for Ferrari but they don't have the skills or the wit or the intelligence or the luck or whatever to get to do it.

Sometimes life goes: "Oh you want to be a jockey? Tough sh*t you're 6'5"." or "You want to be a personal trainer? Here have a gammy leg that won't allow you to run properly."

So why it's all well and good and inspirational-postery to say "Do something you love and you'll never work a day in your life" it doesn't always work out that way for everyone.

Me? I've got a f*cking great job me, so I'm ok.

You could be a stablehand, or a Farrier, or a trainer, or drive the horse box.

Oppurtunities are always there.

AnonoBoy · 24-01-2013 12:12PM

Where To wrote: »

You could be a stablehand, or a Farrier, or a trainer, or drive the horse box.

But I want to make whiskey! :mad:

miltonkrest · 24-01-2013 12:14PM

Where To wrote: »

They shouldn't be doing it then.

not so - i make very good money but hate the job BUT i plan on retiring comfortably in a few years

Where To · 24-01-2013 12:15PM

AnonoBoy wrote: »

But I want to make whiskey! :mad:

Get yourself a distiller's licence and away you go.

There's nothing that can't be done.

Where To · 24-01-2013 12:17PM

miltonkrest wrote: »

not so - i make very good money but hate the job BUT i plan on retiring comfortably in a few years

Not meaning to alarm you but you could be dead in a few years. What then?

mickydoomsux · 24-01-2013 12:18PM

I presume a lot of the people touting the whole 'do what you love' thing aren't actually in the jobs market yet.

Reality doesn't care about your hopes and dreams and you'll probably end up working a job you tolerate to actually pay the bills.

irishgirl19 · 24-01-2013 12:18PM

Where To wrote: »

I agree there's more to life than work, so why waste your time doing a job you hate?

It's makes life a lot easier to have twice the satisfaction from half the effort than to have half the satisfaction from twice the effort.

just out of curiousity,do you love your job.taxi-ing is rough hours and dog eat dog business.
fair play to ya.

Seaneh · 24-01-2013 12:19PM

Ray Palmer wrote: »

Not really as we aren't a first world country;)
Work life balance is a real thing in our country and it doesn't matter what happens in poorer countries.

you've clearly never been to a third wirld country...

even compared most EU countries we have an amazing standard of living.

AnonoBoy · 24-01-2013 12:20PM

Where To wrote: »

Get yourself a distiller's licence and away you go.

There's nothing that can't be done.

I can't. I've got eh... no hands and I'm an alcoholic and have no sense of taste or smell.

Damn it!

Where To wrote: »

Not meaning to alarm you but you could be dead in a few years. What then?

Big inheritance for his missus.

ITS_A_BADGER · 24-01-2013 12:33PM

Ray Palmer wrote: »

So I get paid a daily rate which is a decent wage. Many would say I am overpaid but if it so easy to do they can get the same job. Anyway there is a role similar to my current role and it pays an extra €50 a day but after tax that is about €23.
The journey time would at least double from 25 mins to about 1 hour each way.
Assuming the wage I earn is enough as is would people bother?
Commuting now is pretty much free but the new commute would cost €6 per day. There is a carear advantage to the change too.
So for an extra 70 mins a day I'd get €17.
I don't think it is worth it but the wife thinks I should do it for the carear advantage

Its seems the ones in bold are the bits you are concentrating on OP, But look at the bigger picture in blue for a sec, If you could advance yourself i would go for it, more advancement = bigger wage in the future and probably better work hours and a more comfortable lifestyle. Does the career advancements put you on the path to become a higher position above your current job or does it just make you advance to a dead end doing the same job your doing now, If it advances you to a dead end for 17 eur extra and 70mins commute its proabably not worth it, If it advances you above your current job and the money and the hours get better with time then maybe you should consider going for it

Where To · 24-01-2013 12:34PM

irishgirl19 wrote: »

just out of curiousity,do you love your job.taxi-ing is rough hours and dog eat dog business.
fair play to ya.

Yep, I wouldn't do it if I didn't enjoy it. A job is as rough or as smooth as you make it, the trick is making sure the positives outweigh the negatives, and realising that there are no such as problems, just pending solutions.

24-01-2013 12:48PM

Ray Palmer wrote: »

So I get paid a daily rate which is a decent wage. Many would say I am overpaid but if it so easy to do they can get the same job. Anyway there is a role similar to my current role and it pays an extra €50 a day but after tax that is about €23.
The journey time would at least double from 25 mins to about 1 hour each way.
Assuming the wage I earn is enough as is would people bother?
Commuting now is pretty much free but the new commute would cost €6 per day. There is a carear advantage to the change too.
So for an extra 70 mins a day I'd get €17.
I don't think it is worth it but the wife thinks I should do it for the carear advantage

Absolutely not, having an easy commute is worth its weight in gold as fare as I am concerned my commute is about 50 minutes driving thought the city and its a pain.

bluecode · 24-01-2013 12:52PM

People are suggesting going for it simply because of the career advantage. That's fair enough but be careful what you wish for.

A cautionary tale. My wife, she wanted to move back to her home city. So when a job came up she took it. It was a step up. It was tough and she put in the hours. Eventually she was asked to become head of department. More money again. More hours though and a lot more responsibility and hassle. Is she happy with her career oriented decision? Hell no, but she's stuck now. To make it worse I could never match the money I was getting in Dublin and I have much fewer options where we are now. So financially and personally the move and job was a big mistake.

The question really is what you really want to do with your life and job. If you want to move up through the ranks then go for it. Little things like commuting and social life won't matter to you so much. On the other hand if you're comfortable where you are and in the long run the promotion will come. Then maybe that's a better option.

People overplay the career thing but believe few people look back fondly on their days in work unless it's really one of those interesting ones. Which at the moment I'm lucky to have even if the pay is terrible the commute is appalling and the career prospects nil. But it's better than working.

fatherted1969 · 24-01-2013 01:48PM

Ray Palmer wrote: »

So I get paid a daily rate which is a decent wage. Many would say I am overpaid but if it so easy to do they can get the same job. Anyway there is a role similar to my current role and it pays an extra €50 a day but after tax that is about €23.
The journey time would at least double from 25 mins to about 1 hour each way.
Assuming the wage I earn is enough as is would people bother?
Commuting now is pretty much free but the new commute would cost €6 per day. There is a carear advantage to the change too.
So for an extra 70 mins a day I'd get €17.
I don't think it is worth it but the wife thinks I should do it for the carear advantage

Don't listen to your wife, its not like you'll stop getting the ride if you don't listen to your.......................oh wait

Ray Palmer · 24-01-2013 01:56PM

Seaneh wrote: »

you've clearly never been to a third wirld country...

even compared most EU countries we have an amazing standard of living.

Clearly you don't understand the terminology. Ireland is not a first world country because it simply isn't. It is not an economic term.

Commute time is worth a lot and the carear advantage is not unique nor essential. Only a small advantage that I might never need

PC CDROM · 24-01-2013 11:08PM

In 2014/15 it will all be about people being on the rise again. House buying etc.

This time I have money on PP!

stock> · 24-01-2013 11:22PM

Pippa Middleton's Arse wrote: »

Alwayd listen to your missus. If things go tits up you can blame herself.

Mustn't be married................you can never blame a woman for anything.........ever..........when their're right they are right, when it's wrong your wrong............always..............

Pottler · 24-01-2013 11:27PM

O.P, I think you have to answer the really important, pressing question to see if the move is worthwhile. Does it mean you get to buy a nicer car?

Until we find this out, how can anyone possibly advise you either way?

Tin Foil Hat · 24-01-2013 11:33PM

Ray Palmer wrote: »

So I get paid a daily rate which is a decent wage. Many would say I am overpaid but if it so easy to do they can get the same job. Anyway there is a role similar to my current role and it pays an extra €50 a day but after tax that is about €23.
The journey time would at least double from 25 mins to about 1 hour each way.
Assuming the wage I earn is enough as is would people bother?
Commuting now is pretty much free but the new commute would cost €6 per day. There is a carear advantage to the change too.
So for an extra 70 mins a day I'd get €17.
I don't think it is worth it but the wife thinks I should do it for the carear advantage

This is the main reason why our so called progressive taxation system sucks. This should be a no brainer for you. But, when the government help themselves to more than half your pay increase, what's the fukking point?

Work life balance is €50 worth it?

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