Sure Bono's probably not a bad auld sort?

kneemos · 18-06-2013 04:33PM #1

Why is everyone down on Bono?I've heard derogotory comments about being "short and fat"the usual tax thing and numerous others.Is it envy or jealousy that gets on people's goats?I'd say he's not a bad fella sure.

Logical Fallacy · 18-06-2013 04:36PM

kneemos wrote: »

Why is everyone down on Bono?I've heard derogotory comments about being "short and fat"the usual tax thing and numerous others.Is it envy or jealousy that gets on people's goats?I'd say he's not a bad fella sure.

Sometimes you just dont like someone. I hate the dismissal of that dislike as "jealousy", it's lazy in the extreme.

He just seems like a bit of a pompous **** tbh.

Duckworth_Luas · 18-06-2013 04:36PM

Edgy thread

BraziliaNZ · 18-06-2013 04:37PM

He's a hypocrite who bangs on about helping the poor and he wont even pay tax in his own country where people sleep on trolleys in hospitals. How could you possibly need the amount of money he has? Don't get me started on Bob Geldof...

donvito99 · 18-06-2013 04:37PM

He is the world's largest poo.

My name is URL · 18-06-2013 04:37PM

I don't mind the man, but dont really understand why he was the centre of attention and designated Irish ambassador today.

TommyKnocker · 18-06-2013 04:38PM

What's the difference between God and Bono?....

....God doesn't walk around the streets of Dalkey thinking he is Bono

pabloh999 · 18-06-2013 04:38PM

He does/did a lot to put this tiny island on the map

kneemos · 18-06-2013 04:39PM

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

Sometimes you just dont like someone. I hate the dismissal of that dislike as "jealousy", it's lazy in the extreme.

He just seems like a bit of a pompous **** tbh.

Can't say.Don't know him.

starviewadams · 18-06-2013 04:40PM

Like what?sung a few middle of the road songs and pretended he cares about poor people,for money.

My name is URL · 18-06-2013 04:43PM

starviewadams wrote: »

Like what?sung a few middle of the road songs and pretended he cares about poor people,for money.

I think that's a bit harsh tbh. He works tirelessly to improve the lives of countless people... even if he looks like an ostentatious prick in doing so. Maybe he has some ulterior motives, but his humanitarian efforts aren't eclipsed by them.

You don't get crowned the 'most politically effective celebrity of all time' by just pretending to care.

Jimoslimos · 18-06-2013 04:43PM

pabloh999 wrote: »

He does/did a lot to put this tiny island on the map

I think you're confusing him with Ordnance Survey Ireland

Specialun · 18-06-2013 04:44PM

donvito99 wrote: »

He is the world's largest poo.

Loved the episode

pabloh999 · 18-06-2013 04:44PM

starviewadams wrote: »

Like what?sung a few middle of the road songs and pretended he cares about poor people,for money.

Middle of the road:eek:
Some of the greatest songs ever written more like
With or without you...streets have no names...one..bad

Peregrine · 18-06-2013 04:45PM

I don't like U2's music but I actually have nothing against the man or it's members. I do have great respect for their music and how far they've gone from this tiny little island.

And all the tax dodging ****e, it's amazing how the same hypocrites who say he's an asshole for not paying tax in Ireland defend MNCs based in Ireland to avoid paying taxes elsewhere. I defend too them but I don't turn around and demand that all Irish celebs to pay taxes here.

Sciprio · 18-06-2013 04:46PM

He's only having dinner with obamas wife and kids to show everyone he can.

SeaDaily · 18-06-2013 04:47PM

BraziliaNZ wrote: »

He's a hypocrite who bangs on about helping the poor and he wont even pay tax in his own country where people sleep on trolleys in hospitals.

He has helped people who have to live through a lot more than sleeping on trolleys. First world problems....

hullaballoo · 18-06-2013 04:50PM

Dalkey is lovely in fairness.

BraziliaNZ · 18-06-2013 04:54PM

Nimrod 7 wrote: »

I don't like U2's music but I actually have nothing against the man or it's members. I do have great respect for their music and how far they've gone from this tiny little island.

And all the tax dodging ****e, it's amazing how the same hypocrites who say he's an asshole for not paying tax in Ireland defend MNCs based in Ireland to avoid paying taxes elsewhere. I defend too them but I don't turn around and demand that all Irish celebs to pay taxes here.

It's the celebs who harp on about justice and inequality in the world and don't pay tax in their own country that irk me

BraziliaNZ · 18-06-2013 04:54PM

SeaDaily wrote: »

He has helped people who have to live through a lot more than sleeping on trolleys. First world problems....

It could be your own first world problem some day if you or a relative dies in those conditions!

Fratton Fred · 18-06-2013 04:57PM

Sciprio wrote: »

He's only having dinner with obamas wife and kids to show everyone he can.

he could have done that in a swanky Stephen's green restaurant, instead he invited her to his local and gave the kids of Dalkey the chance to see the FLOTUS.

Fair play to him.

4zn76tysfajdxp · 18-06-2013 04:58PM

BraziliaNZ wrote: »

How could you possibly need the amount of money he has?

As if you'd ever say no to that, right? I'd say you'd be tripping over yourself to pay more taxes if you were a multimillionaire.

DrumSteve · 18-06-2013 04:59PM

pabloh999 wrote: »

He does/did a lot to put this tiny island on the map

And yet, for tax purposes has a hard job finding it.

Jumboman · 18-06-2013 05:00PM

My name is URL wrote: »

I don't mind the man, but dont really understand why he was the centre of attention and designated Irish ambassador today.

I dont see why world leaders go out of their way to meet him hes not an elected politician but you would be forgiven for thinking he was the President of Ireland.

mosstin · 18-06-2013 05:00PM

pabloh999 wrote: »

He does/did a lot to put this tiny island on the map

So he's right. He IS God after all. Well **** me.

neaideabh · 18-06-2013 05:02PM

Sciprio wrote: »

He's only having dinner with obamas wife and kids to show everyone he can.

I am a U2 fan and am inspired of how they took on the world...

But

I do hate this **** where there is a world leader or person of great importance vistiting Dublin.... Bono HAS to meet them up or invite them to dinner....

He did it with Bill Gates and invited Tony Blair to stay in his for the weekend!

Norwesterner · 18-06-2013 05:03PM

Jumboman wrote: »

I dont see why world leaders go out of their way to meet him hes not an elected politician but you would be forgiven for thinking he was the President of Ireland.

Thats politics today.
Shallow, opportunistic, populist, banal nonsense.
Tweets, and turning up at the G8 without a tie trying to look hip and realising all the other World leaders just did the same.

Yamanoto · 18-06-2013 05:06PM

BraziliaNZ wrote: »

It's the celebs who harp on about justice and inequality in the world and don't pay tax in their own country that irk me

They continue to pay tax in Ireland on monies accrued from touring and merchandising, which possibly constitutes the majority of their earnings nowadays.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the business U2 moved to the Netherlands may pertain to their publishing rights alone.

kneemos · 18-06-2013 05:09PM

DrumSteve wrote: »

And yet, for tax purposes has a hard job finding it.

I think Bono does pay tax here it's "U2 Inc"that pays in the Netherlands or where ever.

bodice ripper · 18-06-2013 05:10PM

I have no problem with Bono.

I would like to know which U2 member experienced massive head trauma circa 1997. The music took some unreal nosedive.

artanevilla · 18-06-2013 05:12PM

Nimrod 7 wrote: »

I don't like U2's music but I actually have nothing against the man or it's members. I do have great respect for their music and how far they've gone from this tiny little island.

And all the tax dodging ****e, it's amazing how the same hypocrites who say he's an asshole for not paying tax in Ireland defend MNCs based in Ireland to avoid paying taxes elsewhere. I defend too them but I don't turn around and demand that all Irish celebs to pay taxes here.

Bono doesn't provide thousands of jobs and keep the countries economy going though.

MadYaker · 18-06-2013 05:14PM

I don't know why Bono gets so much abuse, mostly from Irish people too. I love U2s music, but I don't pay much attention to the other stuff he gets involved in.

crockholm · 18-06-2013 05:25PM

The man just seems to be blinded by his own sense of self-importance.Why a man who sings about a mole digging in a hole should feel that way is beyond me.

I just hope he doesn't inspire politicians to start singing now.

humanji · 18-06-2013 05:26PM

BraziliaNZ wrote: »

He's a hypocrite who bangs on about helping the poor and he wont even pay tax in his own country where people sleep on trolleys in hospitals. How could you possibly need the amount of money he has? Don't get me started on Bob Geldof...

Bono could give every cent he has ever earned to the government and there would still be the exact same people sleeping in the exact same trolleys. If I had the opportunity of keeping the money I earned or giving it to a government who will squander it on themselves, I'd pick keeping it. I find it hard to believe anyone would do otherwise.

It's sad that the fact the guy can be an annoying twat is eclipsed by his companies sound financial planning.

Earthhorse · 18-06-2013 05:29PM

Many people are filled with self hate and don't know what to do with it so it manifests in unhealthy ways like pouring scorn on a figure of hate such as Bono, Justin Beiber or what have you.

Of course, criticism of a public figure is to be expected but the sheer amount of bile and hatred directed at Bono is insanely disproportionate to his vices.

MadsL · 18-06-2013 05:33PM

pabloh999 wrote: »

Middle of the road:eek:
Some of the greatest songs ever written more like
With or without you...streets have no names...one..bad

Greatest songs ever written. Wut?

SeaDaily wrote: »

He has helped people who have to live through a lot more than sleeping on trolleys. First world problems....

Yeah, Christian Aid would disagree.

http://www.christianaid.org.uk/images/deathandtaxes.pdf

Today’s dissenters, however, have no need to make their
protest in blood. Celebrities such as Formula One racing
champion Lewis Hamilton and pop star Phil Collins simply
jet off to the balmier tax climes of Switzerland, while U2 lead
singer Bono relocates his recording rights in a Netherlandsbased
tax structure.

The fortunes of these three are a small part of the truly
vast amounts of money that are now held in the world’s
70-plus tax havens. Estimates by the Organisation for Economic
Co-operation and Development (OECD) in 2007 suggested
that the sums then parked ‘offshore’ totalled anything from
US$5 trillion to US$7 trillion (£2.5-£3.5 million million – at least
twice the amount of Britain’s gross domestic product).

I personally was very happy he never got to do this piece of cultural vandalism to the Clarence.

bleg · 18-06-2013 05:41PM

Interesting piece on his charity.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/poor_idea_bono_bsUzJMfT2mBJbqyXgp6YoO

ONE gives only a pittance in direct charitable support to its causes -- something Borochoff said the average donor might not realize.

The Bono nonprofit took in $14,993,873 in public donations in 2008, the latest year for which tax records are available.

Of that, $184,732 was distributed to three charities, according to the IRS filing.

Meanwhile, more than $8 million was spent on executive and employee salaries.

My name is URL · 18-06-2013 06:04PM

bleg wrote: »

Interesting piece on his charity.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/poor_idea_bono_bsUzJMfT2mBJbqyXgp6YoO

What does 'direct charitable support' even mean? And since when is almost $200,000 per year 'pittance'? If the ONE Foundation were out of the picture completely, I wonder if the benefacting charities would see more or less in the way of real income...

You could make the argument that people should donate directly to local causes instead of going through philanthropic groups, but that's a pretty messy way of doing it.. and there's virtually no oversight. I wouldn't give them anything myself, but if people want to; instead of not giving anything to anyone then let them at it!

Jimoslimos · 18-06-2013 06:07PM

MadsL wrote: »

Yeah, Christian Aid would disagree.

http://www.christianaid.org.uk/images/deathandtaxes.pdf

Of course Christian organisations would know nothing of using their charitable status to avoid paying tax.

Hypocrisy is overwhelming in this thread, I wonder if nobody here has ever bought anything online from an overseas retailer...

The Backwards Man · 18-06-2013 06:11PM

Bono's alright

He doesn't bother me, I don't bother him.

jippo nolan · 18-06-2013 06:11PM

pabloh999 wrote: »

He does/did a lot to put this tiny island on the map

I think we were already on the map before BONO came along!

Jumboman · 18-06-2013 06:14PM

Bono preaches that other people should give money to the poor yet he wouldnt give them the stream off his piss.

michael999999 · 18-06-2013 06:17PM

So the guy that has a problem paying taxes in Ireland, had detectives escort him through the crowds in Dalkey today to get him to he's cheauffer driven Jaguar!

Who does he think pays for these guys?

MadsL · 18-06-2013 06:25PM

My name is URL wrote: »

What does 'direct charitable support' even mean? And since when is almost $200,000 per year 'pittance'? If the ONE Foundation were out of the picture completely, I wonder if the benefacting charities would see more or less in the way of real income...

You could make the argument that people should donate directly to local causes instead of going through philanthropic groups, but that's a pretty messy way of doing it.. and there's virtually no oversight. I wouldn't give them anything myself, but if people want to; instead of not giving anything to anyone then let them at it!

You are defending almost 60% of donations ending up as salaries. If 60% of most for-profit business turnover went on salaries - they'd be bust.

My name is URL · 18-06-2013 06:38PM

MadsL wrote: »

You are defending almost 60% of donations ending up as salaries. If 60% of most for-profit business turnover went on salaries - they'd be bust.

I'm not defending it, it happens and my views on it won't change the fact.

I don't agree with footballers being paid £200,000 per week either, but I'm happy enough to support my team regardless. I don't give anything to the ONE Foundation so I've even less say than others on how they should run themselves.

bleg · 18-06-2013 06:41PM

My name is URL wrote: »

What does 'direct charitable support' even mean? And since when is almost $200,000 per year 'pittance'? If the ONE Foundation were out of the picture completely, I wonder if the benefacting charities would see more or less in the way of real income...

I presume they mean pittance in the sense that the nearly $200,000 dollars given out that year is 1.2% of the nearly $15 million they took in.

Comparatively speaking it is pittance.

Jumboman · 18-06-2013 06:44PM

bleg wrote: »

I presume they mean pittance in the sense that the nearly $200,000 dollars given out that year is 1.2% of the nearly $15 million they took in.

Comparatively speaking it is pittance.

The one foundation is some "charity".

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1314543/Bonos-ONE-foundation-giving-tiny-percentage-funds-charity.html

pabloh999 · 18-06-2013 06:49PM

MadsL wrote: »

I personally was very happy he never got to do this piece of cultural vandalism to the Clarence.

Ah, I see, cos you didn't like the plans for the Clarence (or the tall building planned for the docks) you don't like Bono, fair enough.

MadsL · 18-06-2013 07:24PM

pabloh999 wrote: »

Ah, I see, cos you didn't like the plans for the Clarence (or the tall building planned for the docks) you don't like Bono, fair enough.

That. And the fact he's a dick. A friend of mine's hand shakes from time to time - a tic, always has. Nothing serious. He also slightly stammers. He met Bono once and the arsehole took the piss out of him for it.

Gummy Panda · 18-06-2013 07:28PM

Bring back degsy!

He'll put you all straight in regards to bono

rolliepoley · 18-06-2013 07:42PM

Apres Match-u2 spoof

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXVP1zGc-uc

Sure Bono's probably not a bad auld sort?

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