World Amateur Boxing Championships 2013

Strongbow10 · 11-10-2013 01:20PM #1

Its a big week for the team heading out to Kazakhstan.

Conlon, Barnes and Quigley are the form guys, would hope Joe Ward is sufficiently recovered to be at his very best.

Katie is doing commentary for RTE's coverage aswell.

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/other-sports/stakes-never-higher-for-irish-champions-as-world-boxing-championships-beckon-1.1554241

walshb · 12-10-2013 10:12AM

It's a very informative article. Best of luck to the lads. I'm gonna' bet on more KOs/stoppages now with the headgear removal

megadodge · 12-10-2013 06:59PM

walshb wrote: »

It's a very informative article. Best of luck to the lads. I'm gonna' bet on more KOs/stoppages now with the headgear removal

There may be more stoppages but I reckon that would have more to do with the new scoring system rather than discarding headgear.

walshb · 13-10-2013 12:50PM

megadodge wrote: »

There may be more stoppages but I reckon that would have more to do with the new scoring system rather than discarding headgear.

It's on the 10 point must system. Not sure what you mean. Headgear does provide some cushion. Take away that cushion and I think boxers will feel the force of the shots that little bit more. That "little" bit more can be impacting. I'm talking about the head shots to the sided of the head and to the temple area.

megadodge · 13-10-2013 10:43PM

walshb wrote: »

It's on the 10 point must system. Not sure what you mean. Headgear does provide some cushion. Take away that cushion and I think boxers will feel the force of the shots that little bit more. That "little" bit more can be impacting. I'm talking about the head shots to the sided of the head and to the temple area.

Come on, haven't we had threads and arguments over the supposed 'benefit' of headgear (I'll let someone else find links to studies). They are not worth a damn in protecting the receiver, their sole benefit is in the prevention of cuts.

On the scoring system, with computer scoring a knockdown punch counts for the same as a jab, whereas with the 10 point must system you get a 10-8 round. One man landing 5 hard damaging punches can win a round over his opponent landing 10 light punches. It seems pretty obvious to me that harder punching will be rewarded, as it is in the pros.

walshb · 14-10-2013 09:48AM

megadodge wrote: »

On the scoring system, with computer scoring a knockdown punch counts for the same as a jab, whereas with the 10 point must system you get a 10-8 round. One man landing 5 hard damaging punches can win a round over his opponent landing 10 light punches. It seems pretty obvious to me that harder punching will be rewarded, as it is in the pros.

I never mentioned scoring. I was speaking about actual KO/Stoppages. I feel that the headgear does give some extra protection, particularly around the sides of the head. Take this protection away and I think the force of the shots will be that little bit heavier.

megadodge · 14-10-2013 02:54PM

walshb wrote: »

I never mentioned scoring. I was speaking about actual KO/Stoppages. I feel that the headgear does give some extra protection, particularly around the sides of the head. Take this protection away and I think the force of the shots will be that little bit heavier.

Well, as I said there were definitely threads and links here before to studies which showed headgears are of no benefit in absorbing the power of a punch.

As for the scoring, if boxers know heavier punching is rewarded (as it is in the pros) they will be seeking KOs/knockdowns/damaging punches more than before, when it was of no real benefit. That was my point. I expect boxers to be more aggressive now.

walshb · 14-10-2013 04:19PM

megadodge wrote: »

As for the scoring, if boxers know heavier punching is rewarded (as it is in the pros) they will be seeking KOs/knockdowns/damaging punches more than before, when it was of no real benefit. That was my point. I expect boxers to be more aggressive now.

Okey doke. I see your point now, and it's very valid. I Should have been quicker off the mark

Tiriel · 15-10-2013 12:22PM

Another couple through - doing well so far!

Ireland's Sean McComb and Ray Mollett have both progressed to the last 32 at the Elite World Amateur Championships in Kazakhstan.

terrymccarthy05 · 15-10-2013 12:36PM

Thanks for the info.

Craptacular · 16-10-2013 01:39PM

Adam Nolan lost out on a split decision. Paddy Barnes, Sean McComb and Tommy McCarthy have all been in twitter claiming he was robbed.

walshb · 16-10-2013 01:49PM

Craptacular wrote: »

Adam Nolan lost out on a split decision. Paddy Barnes, Sean McComb and Tommy McCarthy have all been in twitter claiming he was robbed.

They should forget twitter and concentrate on their tournament. And, they should be showing the amateur boxing organizations, and AIBA some respect. Paints us as bad losers IMO. They are representing this country. Leave the sniping and moaning to the journalists.

Tiriel · 16-10-2013 02:29PM

walshb wrote: »

They should forget twitter and concentrate on their tournament. And, they should be showing the amateur boxing organizations, and AIBA some respect. Paints us as bad losers IMO. They are representing this country. Leave the sniping and moaning to the journalists.

They don't normally tweet during competitions, taking a 'break' to focus. I'm surprised that they are to be honest.

megadodge · 16-10-2013 07:08PM

Craptacular wrote: »

Adam Nolan lost out on a split decision. Paddy Barnes, Sean McComb and Tommy McCarthy have all been in twitter claiming he was robbed.

Unfortunately, not alone should we see more attempted stoppages, but I'm afraid we'll see an awful lot more bad decisions. I still can't believe they've reverted to the system that didn't work in the first place.

Dick phelan · 18-10-2013 06:46PM

What's the story with RTE Coverage will they be showing any of the world's on tv or the player?

terrymccarthy05 · 19-10-2013 03:33PM

Quicley and Conlan win , Sheehan out.

walshb · 19-10-2013 03:50PM

Sheehan is on the twitter moaning.

"DISGUSTED !!! I know in me heart i won that fight, but not to be dunno what iv to do, cheers for all support:)"

Barnes has a tasty SF match with Selby if both progress. Love to see Paddy get global gold, but Selby for me is a step too far.

Henno30 · 21-10-2013 11:23AM

Conlan and Quigley both win this morning.

terrymccarthy05 · 21-10-2013 04:44PM

Conlan won 30-27 30-27 30-27
Quigley won 30-27 30- 27 29-27
McCarthyhade a narrow win over 7 seed Gemary's Ahmatovic.

keith1976 · 21-10-2013 09:13PM

walshb wrote: »

Sheehan is on the twitter moaning.

"DISGUSTED !!! I know in me heart i won that fight, but not to be dunno what iv to do, cheers for all support:)"

Barnes has a tasty SF match with Selby if both progress. Love to see Paddy get global gold, but Selby for me is a step too far.

Sheehan didn't win in my opinion, but could have gone either way.
The guy he boxed was probably the worst Cuban fighter I have every seen.
The fight can be seen at around 3 hours 22 mins here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1UcJEVjgL8

rebelomar · 22-10-2013 10:03AM

Ward wins but McComb loses in an apparently tight contest.

Strongbow10 · 22-10-2013 02:30PM

excellent 1st round KO for Paddy Barnes, the move up in weight has suited him

Brilliant performances from the lads, 5 fighters going for a medal tomorrow

Tommy McCarthy
Jason Quigley
Mick Conlan
Joe Ward
Paddy Barnes

Tommy McCarthy faces 2nd seeded Argentinian Yamil Peralta, its quite simply going to be the fight of his life, it would be something else if he could medal at the Worlds.

Joe Ward faces his old foe Russian Nikita Ivanov (3rd seed) in his quarter final which is also very winnable. He beat him in the Euro final in 2011.

Jason Quigley faces Zoltan Harsca (4th seed) in his quarter, Harsca has been impressive so far so it will be a 50/50 fight I reckon

Mick Conlan faces Vladimir Nikitin from Russian (10th seed). Nikitin has some WSB experience himself and has been impressing aswell but I fully expect Conlan to come through here.

Paddy Barnes will face Jasurbek Latipov of Uzbekistan by the looks of it and again you would expect Barnes to be the favourite here but you just never know.

rebelomar · 22-10-2013 02:41PM

Cracking shot by Barnes!

kiroswat · 22-10-2013 02:45PM

guys do anyone have the english stream for tomorrow tried vipbox.tv but no joy

Strongbow10 · 22-10-2013 02:47PM

kiroswat wrote: »

guys do anyone have the english stream for tomorrow tried vipbox.tv but no joy

rte.ie are showing coverage of the quarters I believe

BBC are also providing coverage of the quarters tomorrow via the red button I believe

kiroswat · 22-10-2013 02:57PM

am on a training course in fas no access to tv for bbc how about there website are rte showing the quarters on the player tomorrow and anyone know the times of the fights yet much appreciated.

kiroswat · 22-10-2013 03:05PM

kiroswat wrote: »

am on a training course in fas no access to tv for bbc how about there website are rte showing the quarters on the player tomorrow and anyone know the times of the fights yet much appreciated.

its grand guys just checked the rte website and session 1 starting at 9 bells in the morning happy days fair played to paddy barnes what a ko today.

gene_tunney · 22-10-2013 03:34PM

kiroswat wrote: »

am on a training course in fas no access to tv for bbc how about there website are rte showing the quarters on the player tomorrow and anyone know the times of the fights yet much appreciated.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punctuation

barney4001 · 23-10-2013 08:01AM

5 boxers in medal stages today good luck to them all

rebelomar · 23-10-2013 09:17AM

Poor decision there for Mick imo

Tiriel · 23-10-2013 09:57AM

http://www.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/michael-conlan-misses-out-on-medal-at-world-boxing-championships-after-defeat-29693746.html

Feel for him alright. 3-0 is tough.

JM Skipton · 23-10-2013 10:00AM

Quigley bronze medal

rebelomar · 23-10-2013 10:04AM

JM Skipton wrote: »

Quigley bronze medal

Strong boy is Quigley! great stuff

JM Skipton · 23-10-2013 10:31AM

McCarthy gone 1-2

kiroswat · 23-10-2013 10:36AM

JM Skipton wrote: »

McCarthy gone 1-2

McCarthy should of won that one he was very average in that fight.

JM Skipton · 23-10-2013 10:40AM

kiroswat wrote: »

McCarthy should of won that one he was very average in that fight.

Agreed the Argentinean didn't have to do a lot to win it

Johner · 23-10-2013 01:47PM

Paddy Barnes beaten easily enough.

radharc · 23-10-2013 01:50PM

Johner wrote: »

Paddy Barnes beaten easily enough.

Seemed distracted, doing too much talking and complaining to the ref

JM Skipton · 23-10-2013 01:50PM

Johner wrote: »

Paddy Barnes beaten easily enough.

He never got going, hopefully Ward can do it otherwise it will have been an extremely disappointing day.

RasTa · 23-10-2013 02:21PM

What time he fighting at?

runman · 23-10-2013 02:21PM

Lads, my rte player isn't connecting, any link? Can't believe Barnes lost

JM Skipton · 23-10-2013 02:27PM

RasTa wrote: »

What time he fighting at?

Up next I think

JM Skipton · 23-10-2013 02:37PM

what a win by ward!

RasTa · 23-10-2013 02:39PM

What happened there?

runman · 23-10-2013 02:42PM

What happened? No stream ðŸ˜

JM Skipton · 23-10-2013 02:42PM

RasTa wrote: »

What happened there?

Stopped after 2 minutes fairly sure he cut him, anyway the way he was boxing he would have walked it anyway. He will be fresh as a daisy now for the semi

madds · 23-10-2013 02:46PM

I was watching the wrong stream on RTE...have been watching since 3pm....can't believe I missed Ward. Are the 2 separate streams on the Player?

radharc · 23-10-2013 02:51PM

madds wrote: »

I was watching the wrong stream on RTE...have been watching since 3pm....can't believe I missed Ward. Are the 2 separate streams on the Player?

Yes they are showing both rings. In fairness they should have posting a running order on their boxing page.

I was watching with no commentary so wasn't sure whether they went to the cards after the stoppage or was the fight automatically awarded to Joe?

madds · 23-10-2013 02:57PM

radharc wrote: »

Yes they are showing both rings. In fairness they should have posting a running order on their boxing page.

I'm on a call here in work so had my browser window placed in a corner of my screen so the flags of each boxer was visible. Kept checking for the Irish flag but it never appeared.

Johner · 23-10-2013 03:02PM

Watched the wrong one aswell.

willmunny1990 · 23-10-2013 04:45PM

A lot of these guys are serious clowns, it has to be said.

Sheehan moaning on twitter and now facebook about being robbed and Barnes and the like mouthing off about Nolan is a joke.

Now people are claiming Barnes was robbed which is laughable since he was well beaten.

I did a bit of boxing myself when I was younger and moaning and claiming you were robbed is rife throughout at all clubs, you always here it.

Sheehan sulking now claiming he has enough of the amatuer game and may consider going pro.

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