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Has The Entertainment Industry Become Worse?

  • 07-11-2013 11:21PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 140 ✭✭


    I've been thinking about this for a while, maybe I'm right or maybe I'm just going mad but has anyone noticed how terrible/bad/poor anything Entertainment wise has become, particularly in the last 10-15 years? The Music ain't nearly what it used to be, doesn't seem to have the soul of the music ages ago, no more great movies that everyone remembers, the majority of the T.V shows out now are horrible (bar some) etc..

    Do you agree or disagreement? From my personal opinion it seems as though digital entertainment industry has become.. original? Boring? Poor? Maybe I'll create an absurd version of hipsters that just hate anything modern and think that anything old and retro is 'cool'.

    Thoughts? :P

    Do you agree it has or do you think it's become better? 49 votes

    Yes.
    0% 0 votes
    No.
    100% 49 votes


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭keith16


    Ordinarily I'd say yes.








    So yes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,231 ✭✭✭BNMC


    You're just getting old.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 140 ✭✭Mar Mar Marmalade


    BNMC wrote: »
    You're just getting old.

    Haha, at my age?! I think not!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,231 ✭✭✭BNMC


    Poll question makes no sense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,056 ✭✭✭Too Tough To Die


    Yes to both.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,570 ✭✭✭Mint Aero


    Gay Byrne and Twink used dress up as black people and sing on stage so no, entertainment hasn't gotten worse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 140 ✭✭Mar Mar Marmalade


    Made a mess of the poll.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,950 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    Jason Statham is a thespian,at the height of his game.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,080 ✭✭✭EoghanIRL


    Mrs. Browns boys . Utter sh1te

    Edit : any Irish show on any Irish channel.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,541 ✭✭✭Gee Bag


    I've been thinking about this for a while, maybe I'm right or maybe I'm just going mad but has anyone noticed how terrible/bad/poor anything Entertainment wise has become, particularly in the last 10-15 years?

    The release of Fast and Furious 6 clearly disproves your hypothesis.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,689 ✭✭✭Karl Stein


    Nostalgia was better in the olden days.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,973 ✭✭✭Sh1tbag OToole


    EoghanIRL wrote: »
    Mrs. Browns boys . Utter sh1te

    Edit : any Irish show on any Irish channel.

    There used to be good stuff on the Irish channels but now everyone is watching American / British tack on Sky or some DRM streaming service. Since the Tiger the lads in RTE are only there for the money and don't really feel like producing anything of value

    Ever since the voting reality TV shows came in the quality of mainstream music has really decreased.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,541 ✭✭✭Gee Bag


    There used to be good stuff on the Irish channels.

    There was? When was this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,655 ✭✭✭delw


    Don't worry OP the new Utv channel will be along in a year or so,that will sort it out ;)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 326 ✭✭Savoir.Faire


    While music almost certainly reached a highpoint about 215 years ago; the rest of the 'entertainment industry' is excelling. Our cousins in the United States are producing television programmes of extraordinary depth and creativity: with plot, character development and scene reaching almost the same levels as the most engrossing works of literary fiction.

    Many of the subscription US networks are creating a playground for talented artists to express themselves in a way that hasn't been imaginable before.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,154 ✭✭✭the whole year inn


    Complete nonsense,entertainment is getting better,it's just there way to much of it now, everybody wants to be a dj singer film star and there certain platforms where mediocre people get noticed and better talent doesn't shine.

    I'm not getting into lists of what's great to watch or listen to but with the likes of breaking bad or Sherlock(BBC) or parks and recs I feel theres still allot of to look forward to.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 954 ✭✭✭lahalane


    Breaking Bad, Love/Hate, Seven Psychopaths, Prisoners. All recent shows/films that entertained me. I dont really listen to new music enough to know band names but some of it is quite good. Basically the same level of entertainment available to me as anytime in the last twenty years but I suppose everybodys different. Maybe Im easily pleased.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,973 ✭✭✭Sh1tbag OToole


    Gee Bag wrote: »
    There was? When was this?

    The 90's. Fr. Ted, Glenroe, the Morebegs, Ballykissangel


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 954 ✭✭✭lahalane


    Breaking Bad, Love/Hate, Seven Psychopaths, Prisoners. All recent shows/films that entertained me. I dont really listen to new music enough to know band names but some of it is quite good. Basically the same level of entertainment available to me as anytime in the last twenty years but I suppose everybodys different. Maybe Im easily pleased.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,822 ✭✭✭Mickey H


    Gee Bag wrote: »
    There was? When was this?

    Around 1947. There was only 1 channel. 1 is always better than none. ;)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 79 ✭✭Untouchable Peasant


    Breaking Bad was well overrated.

    As for music, most stuff out today is rubbish and I think the proof of the pudding of that will be come twenty years time when music from the last five to ten years will rarely be played again. Counter that with 60's, 70's, 80's and 90's music that is still played constantly.

    Films are no better. Sure, there are a few good ones now and then but by and large, the films out these are rubbish. Argo got an Oscar for best film this year and Tarantino best screenplay for Django. I mean, both decent but for them to be the best of the year says a lot.

    In my day.. ah forget it. Where's my god damn slippers!


  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Music hits peaks and troughs, it's quite a while since it hit a peak though. In 15-20 years I'm sure there'll be a rediscovery of some decent stuff from the last decade but little makes it to the top of the mainstream anymore.

    Quality in film is harder to find but easier to access.

    TV and whatever Netflix is is getting better and better and around 10 years ago surpassed Film as mainstream medium. I haven't kept up with a lot Netflix stuff and am missing out but basic and pay-cable stuff since the turn of the century has been outstanding.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,094 ✭✭✭wretcheddomain


    I have absolutely no idea how to answer that poll question and not for the right reason.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,618 ✭✭✭The Diabolical Monocle


    This opening scene alone prevents agreement on it getting worse.
    And although no connoisseur of film Im no romcom fan either.

    Awesome opening. Prevents pessimism towards cinema.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,191 ✭✭✭✭Shanotheslayer


    Breaking Bad was well overrated.

    Blasphemy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo


    Comedy would be at a peak now I think. There are legends like Carlin or Pryor from a few decades ago which is great. But you also have today some of the best stand ups of all time in my opinion with Louis CK, Chris Rock, Dylan Moran, Dave Chappelle ect.

    If you're going with tv you have The Sopranos, The Wire, Breaking Bad, Deadwood, The Shield, Sons of Anarchy and I could go on. All of these are from the past 10/15 years up to today.

    Music is extremely subjective but some of my personal favourite albums ever made have been released this year, I dare say most of my favourite albums, about 3/4's, are from the past 10/15 years.


    What we do have today is a higher overall volume of 'entertainment' than ever. It's easy to point at Jersey Shore or some other kind of chewing gum for the brain tv and say everything is just shit now because there is so much shit, but there's also never been so much quality. There's always been tonnes of rubbish music, it just populates the charts more today because the only people that pay for music in big numbers are teenage girls but there's still so much good music out there that will stand the test of time, it just gets drowned out by the 'noise' more today.

    You're wrong op, very very wrong, or just old, but still wrong. :)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,618 ✭✭✭The Diabolical Monocle


    I wouldn't say no to another season of podge and rodge.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,078 ✭✭✭onemorechance


    There has never been a wider range of entertainment on offer! It's likely that the same proportion of what you consider good and bad has remained the same, and the proportion of what you consider bad is much larger, thus it's harder to find the good stuff since there is so much of both available! Something like that anyway. :pac:


  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    There has never been a wider range of entertainment on offer! It's likely that the same proportion of what you consider good and bad has remained the same, and the proportion of what you consider bad is much larger, thus it's harder to find the good stuff since there is so much of both available! Something like that anyway. :pac:

    That's kinda what I was getting at with Film. In a good year there'd be a dozen mainstream films I'd be bothered watching. Finding the others takes some effort but once they're found they're generally easy to access by one of the streaming services or DVD/Blu-Ray or other means when it's all that left.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 712 ✭✭✭SweepTheLeg


    The 3 best Tv shows of all time have been within the last 10-15 yrs. The Wire, Breaking Bad & The Sopranos.

    So no, I disagree. It's the same with every generation, people always say "It's not as good as in my day". You're just being an old grumpy sod.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 140 ✭✭Mar Mar Marmalade



    You're wrong op, very very wrong, or just old, but still wrong. :)

    I wouldn't consider myself nor many others here wrong, just a different opinion. That's why I made this thread; to see if I'm the only one! :D.

    To be fair, T.V is the least of my concern from the three considering there have been some good shows lately. Hmm.. maybe I just like old things.






    May as well follow up on that retro hipster idea then :rolleyes:.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,438 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    BNMC wrote: »
    Poll question makes no sense.

    Polls used to be better in the olden days...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,820 ✭✭✭FanadMan


    BNMC wrote: »
    You're just getting old.

    Had voted Yes before I read any of the comments and this one echoed exactly what I was thinking. Most of the 90s music and TV was goodish, the 00s music was worse (the TV was a bit better) but the 10s music and TV is the worst pooh ever!

    But, my dear OP, I'm getting a lot older and as such, I hate all new stuff. My father can't even listen to anything newer than the 60s without whinging.

    Such is life OP :( Get used to it - you are getting older with each second and as each second passes, your ear will get older along with you.

    Your kids and grandkids will really hate the stuff you watch and listen to. And you'll hate their stuff :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 140 ✭✭Mar Mar Marmalade


    Lads, is 22 years of age considered old now?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,802 ✭✭✭✭Ted_YNWA


    Lads, is 22 years of age considered old now?

    Middle aged..

    Im in early 30's and already turning unto a Victor Meldrew crank.

    Regularly think "How did that gob****e get on TV"

    Don't have a Saorview box/Sky so no access to Irish channels , bar their players online Only thing I have watched all year on them is the odd GA game & love/game love...

    As for what is classed as music these days, had a look at charts there a while back & of the top 30, could only recognise 5/6 songs.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,695 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    There's good music been made you just have to go looking for it.
    Hollywood movies have become formulaic dross for
    the most part .HBO is a guiding light in a sea of corporate spread sheets though.
    We had Twink and Bunny Carr on the telly back in the day now we have Turbridy and Brendon O Carroll so no change there.

    You could probably equate it to AH,not as interesting as it was due to political correctness.

    Congratulations on the poll.Goes in the hall of fame.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 50 ✭✭The Humble Sausage


    Lads, is 22 years of age considered old now?
    I think Gary glitter would say......yes.


  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    kneemos wrote: »
    You could probably equate it to AH,not as interesting as it was due to political correctness.

    Since April last year?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,969 ✭✭✭hardCopy


    We now have the best TV shows since the invention of the TV imo.

    Music and movies I'm not so sure about, Hollywood are producing a ridiculous amount of remakes but some of the blockbusters are as good as the 80s and 90s action movies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,166 ✭✭✭Beefy78


    Stan Marsh went through this stage at the age of ten.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,210 ✭✭✭maximoose


    Beefy78 wrote: »
    Stan Marsh went through this stage at the age of ten.


    The President of the United States......is a duck


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,073 ✭✭✭gobnaitolunacy


    The high-end stuff will always be good, like classic movies or tv shows that don't date. Of course there was tons of sh*te movies in the so-called golden age of hollywood that are pretty much forgotten now, for good reason.

    The 'disposable' entertainment will always be that, I don't think people will watch and re-watch I'm a Celebrity or X factor on box set.

    The modern movie remarks are irritating, basically hollywood is scared ****less of moving outside their comfort zone...way hey another costumed comic book hero flick.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,456 ✭✭✭fishy fishy


    mechanical altered music from people who cannot sing to save their lives, dumbed down "reality" shows on tV (who cares about some random people in some random town doing random things), sitcoms with mechanical laughter to tell you when you are supposed to laugh. Yes entertainment has gone way downhill. turn it off - make your own music.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,190 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    hardCopy wrote: »
    We now have the best TV shows since the invention of the TV imo.
    I agree, I think the last 15/20 years has seen some of the best TV of all time, across all genres. This was when it was realised that TV had become a more profitable medium in advertising terms than film, so they started pumping those big budgets into TV programmes which would previously have been reserved for movies. Look at Friends - cast members earning $1m per 30 minute episode, when in the late 80s that would have been a full movie fee for many A-listers.

    TV as a medium is dying on its feet. In the US, subscriber numbers are dropping rapidly as people switch to on-demand and FTA services. This was predicted in the early 00's that TV would die as people switched to on-demand, and tbh I couldn't see how that would work.

    But it does. And what it will do is improve the standard of programming in many respects because so few people will actually want to watch "The secret life of Gypsy showjumpers" on demand.
    But it may also have a groupthink effect whereby niche shows are smothered and cancelled because they're not hugely popular. But different types of content streaming (with ads/without ads/premium) will mean that different tiers of entertainment can continue to remain profitable even when they're blockbusters.

    On the OP's question, yes you're getting old.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,465 ✭✭✭CruelCoin


    Worse.

    I'm fed to my back teeth with all this "dancing with x-factors talent on ice venezuela" crap.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,648 ✭✭✭desertcircus


    Music is going through a pretty poor phase, and mainstream cinema is going through something similar (in both cases because piracy has left them with no clear idea of how to reliably make money anymore), but television is in the middle of an absolute golden age. The Wire, Breaking Bad, The Sopranos, The West Wing and Battlestar Galactica could credibly be described as the five best TV series ever made, and they're all from the last fifteen years.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    The Entertainment Industry hasn't become worse. There's still loads of money in it. What's produced and marketed heavily is what sells. But if there's other stuff more to your taste, that's still about. Still being made. It's just not being shoved in your face everywhere, because it's not a quick package to put together and flog.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,120 ✭✭✭Starscream25


    Haha, at my age?! I think not!

    Maybe your just getting old earlier.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,058 ✭✭✭conorhal


    Mint Aero wrote: »
    Gay Byrne and Twink used dress up as black people and sing on stage so no, entertainment hasn't gotten worse.

    Instead we get Miley Cyrus appropriating black culture and twerking to promote her new album Bangerz, not really seeing the difference.....

    I used to have a UGC annual cinema pass but I didn't renew it last year after I realised it had been months since I'd been to the cinema.
    I may be prone to hollaring 'WORST YEAR FOR CINEMA EVER' a-la comic book guy, but the last couple of years really have been, even a movie buff like me perferred to stay home with a box set of good TV, and where I used to buy 5 or 6 albums a year (I'm not a huge music fan) last year I bought one.
    Things have been looking up for cinema over the last few months though, and there are some releases I'm excited about over the comming months to perhaps we're seeing a cyclical down period finally turning around.

    In general though, yes, the arts are at an all time creative low at the moment, hopefully as I pointed out, this is just a cyclical low and things will turn around.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,436 ✭✭✭c_man


    mainstream cinema is going through something similar (in both cases because piracy has left them with no clear idea of how to reliably make money anymore)

    Of the top 10 grossing movies of all time, seven are from the last four years.


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