Toshiba Laptop Stolen from House

DarrenJ · 02-03-2014 11:40AM #1

My 1 week old Toshiba C-50 laptop (navy in colour) was stolen from my house in Glenburren Park on the Tuam Road.

I paid €500 for it.

Nothing else was taken thankfully.

I have went around all the pawn shops and shops that take in laptops by either buying them or part-exchange against new ones and I have given them the model number (C50-A-19U) and the serial number (1E099772S).

I had the Gardaí at the house too to take a statement.

If anyone gets offered a Toshiba laptop could they let me know.

I have lost so much photo albums from all the places I've been to since 2006, music, work material etc.

This post is intended to raise awareness of laptops being stolen and also to seek advice.

Thanks

ben.schlomo · 02-03-2014 01:00PM

Keep an eye on Adverts.ie, DoneDeal etc too,might be lucky.

DarrenJ · 02-03-2014 01:31PM

Hi Ben

Doing that too.

Thanks.

Darren

intellectual dosser · 02-03-2014 01:33PM

Sounds like their intent was to steal the laptop only. Did you tell anyone dodgy that you'd bought a new laptop? Also - what did you do with the box it came in?

DarrenJ · 02-03-2014 01:35PM

I have the box it came in and the receipt. The serial number is on the box.

I only told two of the lads I live with.

JONJO THE MISER · 02-03-2014 03:55PM

DarrenJ wrote: »

I have the box it came in and the receipt. The serial number is on the box.

I only told two of the lads I live with.

Could they have dodgy friends staying over.
Its strange that nothing else was stolen.

nuckeythompson · 02-03-2014 04:11PM

if you have dropbox or gmail installed and logged in on your laptop you will be bale to track the ip address

Renegade Mechanic · 02-03-2014 05:16PM

Learn that serial number off by heart, OP. Then wait, as you said, on Adverts and Done Deal. Just give a quick glance over the computer while "examining" it and if you see your number itll be your choice on what to do next.

DarrenJ · 02-03-2014 06:44PM

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Could they have dodgy friends staying over.
Its strange that nothing else was stolen.

They do have lads that wouldn't be the nicest characters but I get on well with them and none of them stayed over since I bought the laptop.

DarrenJ · 02-03-2014 06:47PM

nuckeythompson wrote: »

if you have dropbox or gmail installed and logged in on your laptop you will be bale to track the ip address

I do have Gmail and have been watching it.

My IP is 95.44.240.39 here in Galway.

Activity a few hours ago at 178.167.134.210 which seems to be in Tipperary on the map shown. It says the company is Hutchinson 3G (my portable usb Internet Modem is also Hutchinson 3G).

Would this be any help to me?

How would I be able to track an IP address to another user?

Thanks in advance!

flynnlives · 02-03-2014 07:27PM

DarrenJ wrote: »

I do have Gmail and have been watching it.

My IP is 95.44.240.39 here in Galway.

Activity a few hours ago at 178.167.134.210 which seems to be in Tipperary on the map shown. It says the company is Hutchinson 3G (my portable usb Internet Modem is also Hutchinson 3G).

Would this be any help to me?

How would I be able to track an IP address to another user?

Thanks in advance!

That means they are connecting to the net via a 3 mobile broaband thingy.

You should contact 3 and qoute them that ip address. They would be able to see whos account is logging onto that ip in that time frame.
Whether they would give it out is another issue, data protection etc.
3 probably share their ips on their networks so unless the thief logs on via a static ip there is no way you can trace it. I could be wrong tho and it could be a static ip.
I know eircoms ip are dynamic.

But 3 would defo be able to see whos account was using that particular ip. Maybe telling the guards that ip might help.

02-03-2014 07:27PM

Hutchison is the network 3

zarquon · 02-03-2014 07:38PM

DarrenJ wrote: »

I do have Gmail and have been watching it.

My IP is 95.44.240.39 here in Galway.

Activity a few hours ago at 178.167.134.210 which seems to be in Tipperary on the map shown. It says the company is Hutchinson 3G (my portable usb Internet Modem is also Hutchinson 3G).

Would this be any help to me?

How would I be able to track an IP address to another user?

Thanks in advance!

Yep, that's a Tipp IP. Now you have a problem as the thief has access to your email. Either change the password or leave it to keep tracking the laptop. If you do not change the password, delete completely (including trash bin) any delicate information such as banking details, passwords, logins etc.

You will need to inform the Gardai that you have an IP for the stolen laptop along with the ISP and they will need to request end user information from Three. Three will not release this info to you for data protection reasons therefore the Gardai will need to contact them

nuckeythompson · 02-03-2014 08:03PM

zarquon wrote: »

Yep, that's a Tipp IP. Now you have a problem as the thief has access to your email. Either change the password or leave it to keep tracking the laptop. If you do not change the password, delete completely (including trash bin) any delicate information such as banking details, passwords, logins etc.

You will need to inform the Gardai that you have an IP for the stolen laptop along with the ISP and they will need to request end user information from Three. Three will not release this info to you for data protection reasons therefore the Gardai will need to contact them

keep the address going, looks like these guys dont know what they are doing. by right they should have wiped it

Looking at there IP they are very close to me, VERY close OP PM me ,

zarquon · 02-03-2014 08:06PM

nuckeythompson wrote: »

keep the address going, looks like these guys dont know what they are doing. by right they should have wiped it

Looking at there IP they are very close to me, VERY close OP PM me ,

They are probably snooping through his email looking for other valuable info. They may not be aware of the gmail IP tracking.

nuckeythompson · 02-03-2014 08:10PM

zarquon wrote: »

They are probably snooping through his email looking for other valuable info. They may not be aware of the gmail IP tracking.

Bank details etc wont be confirmed by email, I bet this is how they may get caught.

zarquon · 02-03-2014 08:11PM

nuckeythompson wrote: »

Bank details etc wont be confirmed by email, I bet this is how they may get caught.

No but they could be after other stuff like paypal.

nuckeythompson · 02-03-2014 08:17PM

looks like its in cloughjordan

JIdontknow · 02-03-2014 08:18PM

Hope you get your laptop back op! Just wondering were there signs of break in, was laptop left within display of windows etc? Seems strange that you only have it a week, and it's been robbed now- Could your house mates friends stayed there the weekend or had the keys or copy of the keys off them, do you know do your house mates or their friends have connections or ties in Tipperary??

zarquon · 02-03-2014 08:55PM

nuckeythompson wrote: »

looks like its in cloughjordan

A couple of km north actually

DarrenJ · 03-03-2014 12:09PM

JIdontknow wrote: »

Hope you get your laptop back op! Just wondering were there signs of break in, was laptop left within display of windows etc? Seems strange that you only have it a week, and it's been robbed now- Could your house mates friends stayed there the weekend or had the keys or copy of the keys off them, do you know do your house mates or their friends have connections or ties in Tipperary??

The office I work in in the house is front facing and the laptop would be in view but the car is parked outside in a drive in porch right up to the window and the porch makes it very dark to see anything inside.

No friends of anyone I live with stayed over. It's very strange alright!

DarrenJ · 03-03-2014 12:11PM

flynnlives wrote: »

That means they are connecting to the net via a 3 mobile broaband thingy.

You should contact 3 and qoute them that ip address. They would be able to see whos account is logging onto that ip in that time frame.
Whether they would give it out is another issue, data protection etc.
3 probably share their ips on their networks so unless the thief logs on via a static ip there is no way you can trace it. I could be wrong tho and it could be a static ip.
I know eircoms ip are dynamic.

But 3 would defo be able to see whos account was using that particular ip. Maybe telling the guards that ip might help.

I did that yesterday - they can't give out that info and advised me to go to the Gardaí. I have a woman in the Crime Unit investigating the case.

DarrenJ · 03-03-2014 12:33PM

flynnlives wrote: »

That means they are connecting to the net via a 3 mobile broaband thingy.

You should contact 3 and qoute them that ip address. They would be able to see whos account is logging onto that ip in that time frame.
Whether they would give it out is another issue, data protection etc.
3 probably share their ips on their networks so unless the thief logs on via a static ip there is no way you can trace it. I could be wrong tho and it could be a static ip.
I know eircoms ip are dynamic.

But 3 would defo be able to see whos account was using that particular ip. Maybe telling the guards that ip might help.

I have a Garda on the case and am waiting for her to get back to me about getting in touch with 3.

nuckeythompson · 03-03-2014 12:37PM

if you have the MAC address give it to them. Garda are unreal as they will come back later asking for it because they will be asked for it. She may not be aware she needs it yet. Seriel no is only proof when they have the laptop in their hand. MAC can be identified within a network

beauf · 03-03-2014 12:38PM

Maybe laptops are an easy thing to sell on.

You're hardly doing anything from a business point that would make it worth stealing for that reason?

DarrenJ · 03-03-2014 01:17PM

I work as a self-employed Irish language translator.

The Bean-Gharda is on at 4pm and I'll get onto her to ring Three and try to get a name and address of the IP user and hopefully have the house searched. This is getting interesting!

DarrenJ · 03-03-2014 01:19PM

flynnlives wrote: »

That means they are connecting to the net via a 3 mobile broaband thingy.

You should contact 3 and qoute them that ip address. They would be able to see whos account is logging onto that ip in that time frame.
Whether they would give it out is another issue, data protection etc.
3 probably share their ips on their networks so unless the thief logs on via a static ip there is no way you can trace it. I could be wrong tho and it could be a static ip.
I know eircoms ip are dynamic.

But 3 would defo be able to see whos account was using that particular ip. Maybe telling the guards that ip might help.

nuckeythompson wrote: »

if you have the MAC address give it to them. Garda are unreal as they will come back later asking for it because they will be asked for it. She may not be aware she needs it yet. Seriel no is only proof when they have the laptop in their hand. MAC can be identified within a network

It's a Toshiba laptop. I have to wait for the Bean-Gharda to start working at 4pm and I'll get in contact with her then. I hope they get the thief because there was another robbery close by too and it would be great to sort both cases out.

gordongekko · 03-03-2014 02:04PM

DarrenJ wrote: »

I work as a self-employed Irish language translator.

The Bean-Gharda is on at 4pm and I'll get onto her to ring Three and try to get a name and address of the IP user and hopefully have the house searched. This is getting interesting!

fat chance that will happen

mikom · 03-03-2014 02:14PM

DarrenJ wrote: »

It's a Toshiba laptop. I have to wait for the Bean-Gharda to start working at 4pm and I'll get in contact with her then. I hope they get the thief because there was another robbery close by too and it would be great to sort both cases out.

A little tip........... don't call her a bean garda.

bigblackmug · 03-03-2014 02:25PM

+1. There is gender in Irish and they are Bean Gardai but they get all shirty if you refer to them as a Bean Gardai for some reason. A German Polizistin wouldn't take offence at being referred to by her gender.

whomitconcerns · 03-03-2014 02:29PM

This looks like one to watch..I hope you get it back! And lets hope they don't realise the IP logging...This could be the new "I found a safe" thread..

nuckeythompson · 03-03-2014 03:04PM

Looks like they dont use gmail (not many use email nowadays) as htey are logged in.

Depending on your google setting if you log in you can see your browser history. Chances are they have logged into their own facebook page.

As its a mobile wifi device its a longshot the gaurds will get it. after a search warrent is executed chances are the LT is in a neighbours house or apt is quite high

You these tools to identify the theif yourself. Facebook gets everybody caught because people in general are stupid. Time is against you though. get into you google history NOW

zarquon · 03-03-2014 03:59PM

nuckeythompson wrote: »

Looks like they dont use gmail (not many use email nowadays) as htey are logged in.

Depending on your google setting if you log in you can see your browser history. Chances are they have logged into their own facebook page.

As its a mobile wifi device its a longshot the gaurds will get it. after a search warrent is executed chances are the LT is in a neighbours house or apt is quite high

You these tools to identify the theif yourself. Facebook gets everybody caught because people in general are stupid. Time is against you though. get into you google history NOW

That's a great point. OP, enable web history on your google account if you have not done so already. You will then be able to browse the web search history of anyone logged into your gmail account. It might give up some other useful information.

JONJO THE MISER · 03-03-2014 06:12PM

Any update, i love a good who done it.

DarrenJ · 03-03-2014 11:15PM

zarquon wrote: »

That's a great point. OP, enable web history on your google account if you have not done so already. You will then be able to browse the web search history of anyone logged into your gmail account. It might give up some other useful information.

I have took a look through the Gmail settings and can't find how to do it.

I use Mozilla Firefox as Google Chrome was slow on the LT.

Only my desktop's IP address has logged into my Gmail account in the last day so maybe they have it up for sale or realise they need rid of it.

DarrenJ · 03-03-2014 11:19PM

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Any update, i love a good who done it.

Three won't give the name of the person using the IP address that accessed my emails to the Gardaí so they have sent the address to the CS (Criminal Security?) Trace headquarters in Dublin to see who it is.

cerastes · 03-03-2014 11:29PM

How can this be tracked? Im assuming the OP has automatically set up login to gmail?

Christ, I'll never get around to it, safe to keep laptops in and dropbox pictures, files etc, Ive loads of files and pictures.
I should be taking images of Sr no.s and MAC addresses, maybe Im getting paranoid.

Not sure how people are suggesting this could be traced via facebook.

Whats a good way to track a laptop? phone I could see it being done, even without the sim in, or if it was unlocked from security settings, if thats possible, but a laptop?

nuckeythompson · 03-03-2014 11:52PM

plenty of software available to install as a precaution (see lojack). long/latt from ip address gives a good location. use your facebook to cross reference friends of friends and a chance you will come up lucky. EVERYTHING is traceable but when this type of thing is reported the chances of getting it back are slim as the garda and 3 have a process to follow.
You will always get quicker results your self if your a bit tech savvy

Best thing is the mac address. although you cant track it as such in some cases it can be located in a netgwork. this is where its always good to have mates in o2/voda etc.

I had a mate who had his laptop taken in very similar circumstances in his house. long story is the g/f of his lodger had it.
it was so simple as she tethered her laptop from her registered pre pay and bingo. stung with her number.

The other side of storing stuff on google drive or dropbox etc you also must make sure you log out from these services EVERY time

OP - if you want backtrack 5 r3 is a useful tool

cerastes · 04-03-2014 12:02AM

nuckeythompson wrote: »

plenty of software available to install as a precaution (see lojack). long/latt from ip address gives a good location. use your facebook to cross reference friends of friends and a chance you will come up lucky. EVERYTHING is traceable but when this type of thing is reported the chances of getting it back are slim as the garda and 3 have a process to follow.
You will always get quicker results your self if your a bit tech savvy

Best thing is the mac address. although you cant track it as such in some cases it can be located in a netgwork. this is where its always good to have mates in o2/voda etc.

I had a mate who had his laptop taken in very similar circumstances in his house. long story is the g/f of his lodger had it.
it was so simple as she tethered her laptop from her registered pre pay and bingo. stung with her number.

The other side of storing stuff on google drive or dropbox etc you also must make sure you log out from these services EVERY time

OP - if you want backtrack 5 r3 is a useful tool

Ok, thanks, I dont really do FB though, I did mean tracking it to see where it is, I imagine the process of the Gardai is slow and privacy laws prevent any network provider dishing out details.
I log out of everything all the time, Im certain my laptop login password is easily circumventable being microsoft.
Know no one in any service provider.
Not really my field, can IP's be pinned to an address by your self?
How accurately can it be pinned down??

DarrenJ · 04-03-2014 12:03AM

cerastes wrote: »

Ok, thanks, I dont really do FB though, I did mean tracking it to see where it is, I imagine the process of the Gardai is slow and privacy laws prevent any network provider dishing out details.
I log out of everything all the time, Im certain my laptop login password is easily circumventable being microsoft.
Know no one in any service provider.
Not really my field, can IP's be pinned to an address by your self?
How accurately can it be pinned down??

That's exactly what I'm trying to work out - can IP's be pinned down to an address.

cerastes · 04-03-2014 12:07AM

DarrenJ wrote: »

That's exactly what I'm trying to work out - can IP's be pinned down to an address.

If so couldnt a Garda have stolen property identified to them, if you have a serial number/photos? if its still there, otherwise it'll be ditched rapidly after that if not present at the time.

nuckeythompson · 04-03-2014 12:27AM

Some IP add are static and some are dynamic. the short answer is yes but the ip add can and will change in most cases so its vital to know the new one should it change. my ip add is traced to about 10 mtres to my actual position. The mac add is the most important number. for example if a laptop is stolen in a college and is used within the same network it can pin it down very easy with this info.

nuckeythompson · 04-03-2014 12:30AM

DarrenJ wrote: »

That's exactly what I'm trying to work out - can IP's be pinned down to an address.

very close to the address but not exact address, judging by your earlier details the area is rural enough <snip> so chances are an exact address is not required.

nuckeythompson · 04-03-2014 12:31AM

cerastes wrote: »

Ok, thanks, I dont really do FB though, I did mean tracking it to see where it is, I imagine the process of the Gardai is slow and privacy laws prevent any network provider dishing out details.
I log out of everything all the time, Im certain my laptop login password is easily circumventable being microsoft.
Know no one in any service provider.
Not really my field, can IP's be pinned to an address by your self?
How accurately can it be pinned down??

dont rely on just a login password. put a password on your BIOS too. google how to do it

cerastes · 04-03-2014 12:37AM

nuckeythompson wrote: »

dont rely on just a login password. put a password on your BIOS too. google how to do it

\googling this, I realise, I may haved reset a BIOS password before on a desktop.
Looks like its circumventable.

nuckeythompson · 04-03-2014 12:41AM

cerastes wrote: »

\googling this, I realise, I may haved reset a BIOS password before on a desktop.
Looks like its circumventable.

every little helps, some theives may not be able to get around it

04-03-2014 12:42AM

cerastes wrote: »

Whats a good way to track a laptop? phone I could see it being done, even without the sim in, or if it was unlocked from security settings, if thats possible, but a laptop?

I reccomend Prey or even having a dyndns agent which would talk back and allow you to see what IP it is being served..

Here is what happens when you rob a laptop from a hacker.

To the OP, I do hope it turns up...

cerastes · 04-03-2014 12:44AM

nuckeythompson wrote: »

every little helps, some theives may not be able to get around it

Dont want to keep taking this off track, but the BIOS password, is this the admin/user password to the setup. (I dont mean the admin password in windows)

nuckeythompson · 04-03-2014 12:48AM

cerastes wrote: »

Dont want to keep taking this off track, but the BIOS password, is this the admin/user password to the setup. (I dont mean the admin password in windows)

this is before you get into windows

cerastes · 04-03-2014 01:09AM

NoDrama wrote: »

I reccomend Prey or even having a dyndns agent which would talk back and allow you to see what IP it is being served..

Here is what happens when you rob a laptop from a hacker.

To the OP, I do hope it turns up...

Re hacker, just watched the lot, brilliant, funny, he mentions dyndns, think I'll look that up for a start and maybe start using some kind of keychain, I have one on another laptop called omnipass.

Squeeonline · 04-03-2014 07:52AM

cerastes wrote: »

Re hacker, just watched the lot, brilliant, funny, he mentions dyndns, think I'll look that up for a start and maybe start using some kind of keychain, I have one on another laptop called omnipass.

Another option is using something like LastPass for Chrome/firefox. It's free (with a premium add on for android and other OS's) and syncs across browsers. You can use it to write down other passwords etc too.

If you're still paranoid about security with that, you can use an on-screen keyboard to click the keys. particularly useful on touchscreen laptops.

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