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Newbie with 2k to spend

  • 31-03-2014 06:37PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,095 ✭✭✭


    Hi,

    I have a voucher for 2k in McGuirks, naturally I don't want to tell them that when I go in, I want to be able to get the best clubs possible but not to get ripped off!

    How much wiggle room is there on the displayed prices in there do you think? Secondly, whats the best way to go about buying clubs and knowing which is right for you?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,800 ✭✭✭Senna


    Holly crap, €2k for a beginner, my bag and wardrope wouldn't add up to that much.
    I wouldn't even know where to start.
    Are you serious about taking up that game? You could spend €2k and realise you hate the game.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,733 ✭✭✭SnowDrifts


    Sell the voucher and buy a cheap second hand set of clubs on Adverts and see if the game is for you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Benny Cake


    How much of a newbie are you? Do you already own a set of clubs? Do you play regularly?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,695 ✭✭✭ForeRight


    Newbie who wants the best clubs possible????

    Why???

    Sell the voucher. Buy a beginner set of irons,get lessons and go on a holiday with the money you get.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 661 ✭✭✭Norfolk Enchants_


    Mizuno H4 irons and wedges, Titleist driver and fairways, Titleist tour bag and you'll be the envy of all your golfing "mates".


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,695 ✭✭✭ForeRight


    Mizuno H4 irons and wedges, Titleist driver and fairways, Titleist tour bag and you'll be the envy of all your golfing "mates".


    Or the laughing stock when he can't hit the ball 20 yards


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Benny Cake


    Mizuno H4 irons and wedges, Titleist driver and fairways, Titleist tour bag and you'll be the envy of all your golfing "mates".

    Worst. Advice. Ever.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 144 ✭✭Finlay Harp


    Beau wrote: »
    Hi,

    I have a voucher for 2k in McGuirks, naturally I don't want to tell them that when I go in, I want to be able to get the best clubs possible but not to get ripped off!

    How much wiggle room is there on the displayed prices in there do you think? Secondly, whats the best way to go about buying clubs and knowing which is right for you?

    You can get vouchers back as change if you don't spend the full amount. Get custom fitted and keep €1000 aside for down the line. Fair play wish I had that sort of money. Would buy the best Motacaddy and bag plus the best shoes and wet gear.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 661 ✭✭✭Norfolk Enchants_


    ForeRight wrote: »
    Or the laughing stock when he can't hit the ball 20 yards
    Benny Cake wrote: »
    Worst. Advice. Ever.
    Don't mind them OP,

    tattly-singles-haters-gonna-hate-1-lg.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 176 ✭✭Carpo86


    Interesting username you have there 'Norfolk'. Somewhat reminiscent of past posters by the name of 'Neil' and 'Anita' ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 631 ✭✭✭gman127


    I'd recommend Callaway cavity back irons. The X2 Hot are the current line.
    Get them custom fitted with the new Big Bertha driver, 3 and 5 wood. Maybe a 21 degree hybrid aswell.
    Scotty Cameron putter sure why not?!
    Get the irons in the 4-SW variety and add one more fancy wedge (Cleveland maybe) in the 56 - 60 degree range to complete the 14 clubs.

    Don't forget the extra gear though!
    -A good rain suit
    -A good waterproof bag (trolley or carry, your preference)
    -An electric trolley if you want
    -Good comfortable and waterproof shoes (the new footjoy DNA look the biz!)
    -Couple of boxes of good balls - I like Srixon or Bridgestone for decent price and quality
    -Lots of different sized tees
    -Ball marker and pitch mark repairer
    -Good sunglasses and a peaked hat (not white, it just gets dirty)
    -Thermal under armours to keep you cozy without restricting swing
    -Golf mittens maybe to keep hands warm

    Have I spent 2k yet??? :confused::pac:

    Also they'll give you a good discount when you keep adding stuff to the trolley, just don't let on you've a voucher for it all in your pocket!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,734 ✭✭✭dan_ep82


    Why not get a set of clubs of adverts ( can be picked up for 100 or less) and play a few rounds.

    Use the voucher to get a set of golf shoes, glove,tee's and the cheapest pack of golf balls you can get and see how you get on.

    That way if you don't like golf you can sell on the glove,tee's,shoes and clubs and make 90% of your money back.

    If you do like it (very possible) and after a couple of rounds when your starting to get your swing to a consistent level go and get fitted for a driver if its burning a hole in your pocket, if you feel the need to change later they're the easiest sell with the least loss imo. Buy a putter/bag/trolley in the mean time as its all personal choice instead of skill orientated.

    Once you feel your finding your game with your irons, go and get on a launch monitor to see if any/what clubs will help your game.

    The problem I see with getting fit right now is since I started 6 months ago my swing has changed dramatically and become somewhat consistent. If I got custom fit back then more than likely the irons would not suit now and could hurt my game leading me to buy new irons and take a big loss on the irons (seeing as they are usually 350+) plus the cost of the new ones.

    I wouldn't expect McGuirks to rip you off, but they may try to rip your arm off with the voucher intact.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,095 ✭✭✭Beau


    Thanks for the advice, I'll take a look at some gear and try out a few clubs mentioned and see what feels best. I'm not interested in selling the voucher, it strictly only redeemable in my name.
    Benny Cake wrote: »
    How much of a newbie are you? Do you already own a set of clubs? Do you play regularly?

    Was pushed into it as a kid but never really got into it. Picked it up again last year and joined a club towards the tale end of last year and I've a handicap of 28, I've a great drive but everything else is poor.

    I had a good set of hand me down Pings, which were robbed (hence the voucher), I've a beginner Dunlop set that I've had for years.

    I've been taking lessons for the past six week's and will be playing with friends most Saturdays and I've joined a golf society in work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,734 ✭✭✭dan_ep82


    Sorry, I presumed you were just about to get into the game.

    Maybe ask your pro if he thinks you could benefit from the clubs and his opinion on what type? He could help narrow down the type of clubs to look at, same goes for wedges which I presume you'll be getting as he will know your swing style.

    McGuirks should be able to tell you your flex and optimum loft.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 998 ✭✭✭John Divney


    Ring up Kinseally Range and ask them to get somebody to ring you back or email you dates for Driver fitting.

    Buy a Driver and woods that suit you, and sell the rest of the voucher, buy second hand irons cheaply until you groove an iron swing

    Use the rest of the money to play the actual courses for the next year, the country is riddled with top courses, weekends away beat new clubs hands down. Not a bad place to be if you like golf and have a grand to spare


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 922 ✭✭✭FWVT


    You got a payout of 2 grand for a set of hand-me-down Pings? Wow, well done!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,889 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    gman127 wrote: »
    I'd recommend Callaway cavity back irons. The X2 Hot are the current line.
    Get them custom fitted with the new Big Bertha driver, 3 and 5 wood. Maybe a 21 degree hybrid aswell.
    Scotty Cameron putter sure why not?!
    Get the irons in the 4-SW variety and add one more fancy wedge (Cleveland maybe) in the 56 - 60 degree range to complete the 14 clubs.

    Don't forget the extra gear though!
    -A good rain suit
    -A good waterproof bag (trolley or carry, your preference)
    -An electric trolley if you want
    -Good comfortable and waterproof shoes (the new footjoy DNA look the biz!)
    -Couple of boxes of good balls - I like Srixon or Bridgestone for decent price and quality
    -Lots of different sized tees
    -Ball marker and pitch mark repairer
    -Good sunglasses and a peaked hat (not white, it just gets dirty)
    -Thermal under armours to keep you cozy without restricting swing
    -Golf mittens maybe to keep hands warm

    Have I spent 2k yet??? :confused::pac:

    Also they'll give you a good discount when you keep adding stuff to the trolley, just don't let on you've a voucher for it all in your pocket!

    If you're going to use the voucher then above is a good guide.
    Added to that and as a few others have mentioned, it may be best to ask someone independent that knows your swing. The Pro may set you straight re best clubs if you explain the situation.

    You won't get much change from that list:

    14 clubs (1,000)
    Good bag (150)
    Good rain gear (250)
    Some nice clobber...depending on your HC obviously... You can get more colouful as the HC drops :) joking... (250)
    A GPS device (150)

    You won't find much change from that, above are just indicative ranges.

    I wouldn't buy an electric trolley if you're young and able.

    Also, sign up to McGuirks mailing list. The email sales offers quite regularly that are often not visible in store... And sometimes the staff don't know there's a sale on. I've had to remind them about the email myself a few times.


    Or you could just buy 50-60 boxes of ProVs and say goodbye to the 2k!!!! ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,215 ✭✭✭scrubber72


    Sure join the boards golf society. Maybe sponsor some prizes. ;-)
    We'd be glad to have your money i mean company.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,889 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    scrubber72 wrote: »
    Sure join the boards golf society. Maybe sponsor some prizes. ;-)
    We'd be glad to have your money i mean company.

    Or the lads might accept the voucher instead of the 2k hello money to join ;)

    I've 2k spent this morning... Trying on my imaginary Calvin Green gear at present...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 301 ✭✭Sean_pop


    My advice to you would be to get fitted anyway. It cost nothing extra if you buys the clubs at McGuirks, plus they will fit you with the correct shaft lie angle etc based on your swing.

    I bought a completely new set last year. It cost me just under €1800 with all the extras I had to pay for custom fitted stiff shafts.

    Taylormade RBZ Stage 2 Driver with Fujikurra stiff shaft.
    Taylormade RBZ Stage 2 3 Wood stiff shaft.
    Taylormade RBZ Stage 2 3 Hybrid stiff shaft.
    Taylormade Rocket Bladz with Project x 6.0 shafts (4-PW)
    Titleist Vokey wedges (Lob Wedge, Sand Wedge and Gap Wedge)
    Odyssey Putter #7

    I bought them this time last year. Check with them if they have scrappage deal available.
    Trade any set of irons in against new set and get €150 off. Trade any Driver in against new driver and get €75 off.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 497 ✭✭Ernest Oreo


    maybe just buy a load of J Lindberg gear
    if you dont like the game you can wear it out on saturday night, to mass, etc
    #stylish


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,097 ✭✭✭Dbu


    Buy a cheap second hand set as some people have said
    In a year or so use the voucher to upgrade, or alternatively give it to me and I will spend it for you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,734 ✭✭✭dan_ep82


    Sean_pop wrote: »
    Trade any set of irons in against new set and get €150 off. Trade any Driver in against new driver and get €75 off.

    Thats a big hit on a €200 driver or a €350 set of irons, never mind the current callaways at €500 for the drivers or some of the irons at 700. Adverts is where I'd sell, less of a loss.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 301 ✭✭Sean_pop


    dan_ep82 wrote: »
    Thats a big hit on a €200 driver or a €350 set of irons, never mind the current callaways at €500 for the drivers or some of the irons at 700. Adverts is where I'd sell, less of a loss.

    It suited me because my first set of irons only cost me €300 and there is no way I would have got €150 anywhere else. Its handy if you have clubs lying around for years that are worth nothing and nobody wants them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,734 ✭✭✭dan_ep82


    Sean_pop wrote: »
    It suited me because my first set of irons only cost me €300 and there is no way I would have got €150 anywhere else. Its handy if you have clubs lying around for years that are worth nothing and nobody wants them.
    Ah well that's good value if you go about it that way.

    Another good place is thegolfstudio in celbridge, they sell mainly second hand but they take trade in's and give very good value. Brother traded in a set of old MP32's that needed new grips and were 1/4" longer for an Xhot driver with the pro shaft.

    Sorry for the off topic OP


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 641 ✭✭✭Arsenium


    dan_ep82 wrote: »
    Sorry, I presumed you were just about to get into the game.

    Maybe ask your pro if he thinks you could benefit from the clubs and his opinion on what type? He could help narrow down the type of clubs to look at, same goes for wedges which I presume you'll be getting as he will know your swing style.

    McGuirks should be able to tell you your flex and optimum loft.

    Maybe keep it from your pro though that you are about to take his advice and bring it up to the Super Store where you intend to drop 2 thousand notes :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,614 ✭✭✭newport2


    Beau wrote: »
    Hi,

    I have a voucher for 2k in McGuirks, naturally I don't want to tell them that when I go in, I want to be able to get the best clubs possible but not to get ripped off!

    How much wiggle room is there on the displayed prices in there do you think? Secondly, whats the best way to go about buying clubs and knowing which is right for you?

    A bit off-topic, but check your voucher expiry date. Any McGuirk's vouchers I've got have expired in 6 months. They'd probably honour them beyond that, but I wouldn't risk it with 2k!

    If I was in your position, I'd get a few lessons from a pro and explain your voucher situation to him. Having seen your swing in action he would be able to advise you on the best clubs for you. Don't just go and buy the coolest looking ones, I know myself how easy it is to be lured in golf shops....

    Good luck


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 301 ✭✭Sean_pop


    newport2 wrote: »
    A bit off-topic, but check your voucher expiry date. Any McGuirk's vouchers I've got have expired in 6 months. They'd probably honour them beyond that, but I wouldn't risk it with 2k!

    If I was in your position, I'd get a few lessons from a pro and explain your voucher situation to him. Having seen your swing in action he would be able to advise you on the best clubs for you. Don't just go and buy the coolest looking ones, I know myself how easy it is to be lured in golf shops....

    Good luck


    I would agree. You said your playing of 28 at the moment. New clubs are not necessarily going to make you a better Golfer.

    Lessons on the other hand will help you get the basics right, Grip, Alignment, Posture etc, therefore improving your game in the long run

    If you do happen to get new clubs just remember it will probably take you around a year to get used to them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 826 ✭✭✭geeksauce


    If I were you I would get fitted and get a decent set of clubs with the voucher, they should be able to help you in there with the best clubs for you. I would love to be able to walk in there and have my pick of irons and drivers, don't know when I will be in a position to purchase a new set of irons, although I am happy with the ones I have now.

    My advice get some spanking new irons for yourself, not often you will be in a position to treat yourself to €2k worth of goods in there.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,095 ✭✭✭Beau


    gman127 wrote: »
    I'd recommend Callaway cavity back irons. The X2 Hot are the current line.
    Get them custom fitted with the new Big Bertha driver, 3 and 5 wood. Maybe a 21 degree hybrid aswell.
    Scotty Cameron putter sure why not?!
    Get the irons in the 4-SW variety and add one more fancy wedge (Cleveland maybe) in the 56 - 60 degree range to complete the 14 clubs.

    Well, I went out to Kinsealy today, I tried Talyor Made's, Ping's and the above. I have to say I really liked the Callaway's! I'm going to pop out again tomorrow and give them another go before I go for it. The guy didn't recommend getting them fitted as my swing should change a fair bit in the next few months.

    I told the sales guy about the voucher, so of course when I asked how much he quoted me the full price of €1700 :eek: No budging either, saying he can't with the voucher . That's before any gear or even a putter! So much for going nuts! It'd be about €160 cheaper if I go with the X2 driver and woods which I also liked. I do need wet gear as well so I'll probably do that. I can use an old bag that I have and an old trolley. It's just a little disappointing. Never the less I'll go somewhere else and not mention the voucher until I get to the checkout and after haggling.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 139 ✭✭Fanny Brioscaí


    Beau wrote: »
    Well, I went out to Kinsealy today, I tried Talyor Made's, Ping's and the above. I have to say I really liked the Callaway's! I'm going to pop out again tomorrow and give them another go before I go for it. The guy didn't recommend getting them fitted as my swing should change a fair bit in the next few months.

    I told the sales guy about the voucher, so of course when I asked how much he quoted me the full price of €1700 :eek: No budging either, saying he can't with the voucher . That's before any gear or even a putter! So much for going nuts! It'd be about €160 cheaper if I go with the X2 driver and woods which I also liked. I do need wet gear as well so I'll probably do that. I can use an old bag that I have and an old trolley. It's just a little disappointing. Never the less I'll go somewhere else and not mention the voucher until I get to the checkout and after haggling.

    If you decide on the clubs tomorrow then don't buy from Kinsealy, head up to the shop in Howth and haggle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,734 ✭✭✭dan_ep82


    Beau wrote: »
    Well, I went out to Kinsealy today, I tried Talyor Made's, Ping's and the above. I have to say I really liked the Callaway's! I'm going to pop out again tomorrow and give them another go before I go for it. The guy didn't recommend getting them fitted as my swing should change a fair bit in the next few months.

    I told the sales guy about the voucher, so of course when I asked how much he quoted me the full price of €1700 :eek: No budging either, saying he can't with the voucher . That's before any gear or even a putter! So much for going nuts! It'd be about €160 cheaper if I go with the X2 driver and woods which I also liked. I do need wet gear as well so I'll probably do that. I can use an old bag that I have and an old trolley. It's just a little disappointing. Never the less I'll go somewhere else and not mention the voucher until I get to the checkout and after haggling.

    Did he put you on a launch monitor?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,095 ✭✭✭Beau


    dan_ep82 wrote: »
    Did he put you on a launch monitor?

    No, what's that and what would it show?

    He just gave me a go of different sets, hard to tell the difference between the Pings and Taylor Mades, I generally hit the Callaways straighter and more consistently.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,448 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    It just seems a lot of money to spend on a set of clubs for somebody getting into the game.

    But if you are getting into to it, and are fairly sure it is for life. Then go for a good set.
    Only thing is off 28 - your swing and game are going to change so much over even the first year or so.

    If I was you Id get lessons first. 200 euro worth.
    Put 100 to 200 euro onto the range card if they will in Kinsealy - make sure - make sure again there is no expiry date on the voucher.

    You could spend 400 to 500 on an excellent set for your handicap, seems mad to go all out.
    Driver - putter = total of 700

    Use some for bag trolley
    rain gear
    About 1000 now

    lessons and balls - 200.

    1200.

    If you can keep the 800 for a year or so do.

    But - hey it is your voucher. Do as you please.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,734 ✭✭✭dan_ep82


    Beau wrote: »
    No, what's that and what would it show?

    He just gave me a go of different sets, hard to tell the difference between the Pings and Taylor Mades, I generally hit the Callaways straighter and more consistently.

    Thought they'd have one at the range to help with the fitting. Depending on the model it would give you spin numbers, launch angle,ball flight, flight height, curve of trajectory,distance,swing speed, club path etc etc

    The main ones to look at (outside of a lesson) would be spin numbers,distance,accuracy and swing speed but he'd look at all to find a recommendation.

    For example if you swing at 105mph with a driver generally your in stiff flex area with driver,fairways and irons. If you buy a regular you could actually lose distance. Could being the main word,hence why its so handy to get real numbers in front of you.

    And you might hit the cheaper driver better or longer, it can be hard to see with the naked eye unless you follow the ball out.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,848 ✭✭✭soundsham


    2 grands worth of tees


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,889 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    What exactly was included for the €1,700?

    Sorry but a 28 HC'er doesn't need to spend 1700 on clubs and the sales guy seen you coming.
    Did you mention you had the voucher before you started looking at clubs?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,695 ✭✭✭ForeRight


    PARlance wrote: »
    What exactly was included for the €1,700?

    Sorry but a 28 HC'er doesn't need to spend 1700 on clubs and the sales guy seen you coming.
    Did you mention you had the voucher before you started looking at clubs?



    This sort of thing is just typical. I saw a man about 70 the other day in the pro shop dropping 350euro on a new driver. Out he goes playing then and all he can do is a quarter of a swing at best.

    More money than sense some people but hey... If it makes them happy leave them too it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,080 ✭✭✭bustercherry


    dan_ep82 wrote: »
    Thought they'd have one at the range to help with the fitting. Depending on the model it would give you spin numbers, launch angle,ball flight, flight height, curve of trajectory,distance,swing speed, club path etc etc

    The main ones to look at (outside of a lesson) would be spin numbers,distance,accuracy and swing speed but he'd look at all to find a recommendation.

    For example if you swing at 105mph with a driver generally your in stiff flex area with driver,fairways and irons. If you buy a regular you could actually lose distance. Could being the main word,hence why its so handy to get real numbers in front of you.

    And you might hit the cheaper driver better or longer, it can be hard to see with the naked eye unless you follow the ball out.

    Waste of time putting a guy starting out on a launch monitor. Basic fitting for shaft length and lie etc.... but spin numbers are not relevant if you cannot consistently hit the ball. I'd also argue that no 28 handicapper should be swinging a driver at 105mph.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,889 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    ForeRight wrote: »
    This sort of thing is just typical. I saw a man about 70 the other day in the pro shop dropping 350euro on a new driver. Out he goes playing then and all he can do is a quarter of a swing at best.

    More money than sense some people but hey... If it makes them happy leave them too it.

    The voucher thing is funny too.
    Wonder if it's an Irish "quirk" of ours.... To almost be apologetic for paying with a voucher that someone somewhere had purchased with hard cash and the fact that sales people are less likely to discount.

    That 2,000 has more than likely been put to use as working capital for them. It's not bonded so it's actually great for a shop to have people tying up money in vouchers.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,734 ✭✭✭dan_ep82


    Waste of time putting a guy starting out on a launch monitor. Basic fitting for shaft length and lie etc.... but spin numbers are not relevant if you cannot consistently hit the ball. I'd also argue that no 28 handicapper should be swinging a driver at 105mph.
    Hardly, at the very worst they can tell him which he's hitting better. Its not for the customer to interpret the data but the salesman. He'll know the spin numbers, AOA, swing path and all the rest can change, he'll just use the information to make recommendations based on how he plays at present, there won't be as much consistency as someone who plays to a low handicap but enough to narrow the search. Then he can tell him which he hits better out of the recommended clubs with accurate data instead of "that looked good"

    I used 105mph as an example, but it could be he can go all out to 120mph. There's a lot of other reasons why I think that statement could be incorrect as a blanket statement although I understand your reasoning. He has taken six lessons so far, I'm sure if how hard he was swinging was the reason for his 28HCP his pro would have mentioned it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,892 ✭✭✭Macker1


    Beau wrote: »
    Well, I went out to Kinsealy today, I tried Talyor Made's, Ping's and the above. I have to say I really liked the Callaway's! I'm going to pop out again tomorrow and give them another go before I go for it. The guy didn't recommend getting them fitted as my swing should change a fair bit in the next few months.

    I told the sales guy about the voucher, so of course when I asked how much he quoted me the full price of €1700 :eek: No budging either, saying he can't with the voucher . That's before any gear or even a putter! So much for going nuts! It'd be about €160 cheaper if I go with the X2 driver and woods which I also liked. I do need wet gear as well so I'll probably do that. I can use an old bag that I have and an old trolley. It's just a little disappointing. Never the less I'll go somewhere else and not mention the voucher until I get to the checkout and after haggling.

    That's the time you should have simply walked away. On principal alone I wouldn't give him your custom. absolute bull**** that he couldn't do a deal.
    The voucher ties you in to the shop but they can still put a good deal on the table for you. Its a pity a voucher is involved because you would be better served buying on adverts or such like. Great bargains to be had.... By all means go to the golf shops and get ideas for what you like.... hold them in your hand and hit a few shots but then go online and look around.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 998 ✭✭✭John Divney


    Buy the older Xhot irons, the difference will be negligible. American golf have them advertised on the tv for 270 sterling

    Whatever new irons you buy will be on sale soon for 300 euros anyway,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,956 ✭✭✭Russman


    That's pure bull about not being able to do you a deal because its a voucher, go to a different branch, pick your clubs/clothes etc and don't mention the voucher until you've struck the deal and are paying at the till. As long as you're not trading in, it makes no difference to them, strictly speaking. Ok, they've already had the use of your cash and essentially owe you 2k but that's neither here nor there. You should get something off, if you're spending 2k.

    Also last years X Hot irons are basically the same as the new version, some shops that have them still in stock will be trying to get rid of them, you should get a deal. Same with the X Hot drivers/woods, no real difference between them and the new X2 Hot. Then again, if you're not paying out of your own pocket, go for it with the newer gear !

    If he didn't at least let you hit into a screen and measure your speeds etc, it sounds like he was just trying to sell you some clubs with the least effort possible. For that amount of money its worth it to visit all 4 (?) McGuirks shops and trying/looking/testing/haggling. The more items you add to your "order" in the shop, the better discounts you should be getting. There's not so much margin on clubs, but if you're picking up and clothes or accessories there's plenty of scope there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,614 ✭✭✭newport2


    Russman wrote: »
    That's pure bull about not being able to do you a deal because its a voucher, go to a different branch, pick your clubs/clothes etc and don't mention the voucher until you've struck the deal and are paying at the till. As long as you're not trading in, it makes no difference to them, strictly speaking. Ok, they've already had the use of your cash and essentially owe you 2k but that's neither here nor there. You should get something off, if you're spending 2k.

    Also last years X Hot irons are basically the same as the new version, some shops that have them still in stock will be trying to get rid of them, you should get a deal. Same with the X Hot drivers/woods, no real difference between them and the new X2 Hot. Then again, if you're not paying out of your own pocket, go for it with the newer gear !

    If he didn't at least let you hit into a screen and measure your speeds etc, it sounds like he was just trying to sell you some clubs with the least effort possible. For that amount of money its worth it to visit all 4 (?) McGuirks shops and trying/looking/testing/haggling. The more items you add to your "order" in the shop, the better discounts you should be getting. There's not so much margin on clubs, but if you're picking up and clothes or accessories there's plenty of scope there.

    +1

    I'd even phone around the likes of American Golf and Halpenny Golf and get quotes for what you are buying. McGuirk's claim they will match any price, so try and get a better one elsewhere to use as leverage.

    Also, build up what you're buying gradually. Eg get best price on irons. Then say, "If I got a driver with them, what would price would you give me?". After that "How much for raingear on top of that?". Look for a reduction every time you add something


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,614 ✭✭✭newport2


    ForeRight wrote: »
    This sort of thing is just typical. I saw a man about 70 the other day in the pro shop dropping 350euro on a new driver. Out he goes playing then and all he can do is a quarter of a swing at best.

    More money than sense some people but hey... If it makes them happy leave them too it.

    +1

    Saw a lady in McGuirks with a virtually new Taylormade 5 wood. She was trading it in because she couldn't hit it. And what was your man offering her as a replacement? A 3-wood with the exact same loft as the 5-wood. She bought it too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 310 ✭✭Dossy


    ForeRight wrote: »
    Or the laughing stock when he can't hit the ball 20 yards

    Not having a pop here but why should someone not buy the gear they want for fear some jealous person gives out and or makes a joke about them, i have a Titleist tour bag and im a 17hc and dont see anything wrong with it,

    A few weeks ago when i got it i had few lads joking about it and the fact i got cut to 17 from 23 saying ah you'll struggle to play too that its too much of a cut,

    I ended up winning the society comp with 40pts and said to the lads what were ye saying again about struggling to play to it......and notting said

    At the end of the day buy what you want and enjoy it, its your money and do what you want with it

    As i said im not having a pop at ForeRight or anyone just expressing my opinion and an experience i had

    I do except the advice about seeing if the game is for you and buying a second hand set, my view is for someone who is hooked on the game


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,724 ✭✭✭Nozebleed


    Titleist have a fitting/testing day in the spawell driving range. Think its the 10th of april. Might be of interest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,695 ✭✭✭ForeRight


    Dossy wrote: »
    Not having a pop here but why should someone not buy the gear they want for fear some jealous person gives out and or makes a joke about them, i have a Titleist tour bag and im a 17hc and dont see anything wrong with it,

    A few weeks ago when i got it i had few lads joking about it and the fact i got cut to 17 from 23 saying ah you'll struggle to play too that its too much of a cut,

    I ended up winning the society comp with 40pts and said to the lads what were ye saying again about struggling to play to it......and notting said

    At the end of the day buy what you want and enjoy it, its your money and do what you want with it

    As i said im not having a pop at ForeRight or anyone just expressing my opinion and an experience i had

    I do except the advice about seeing if the game is for you and buying a second hand set, my view is for someone who is hooked on the game



    The OP made out in his original post that he was a newbie. It was implied that he had never even hit a ball before which is why I said get a beginner set and get lessons after selling his voucher instead of kitting himself out like tiger woods when he can't hit a ball off a tee.

    The difference between you off 17 and a "newbie" is a million miles so it's not comparable.

    In fairness I also said if it makes someone happy to droppnry on the best of gear when they can't utilise it that's their prerogative.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 310 ✭✭Dossy


    ForeRight wrote: »
    The OP made out in his original post that he was a newbie. It was implied that he had never even hit a ball before which is why I said get a beginner set and get lessons after selling his voucher instead of kitting himself out like tiger woods when he can't hit a ball off a tee.

    The difference between you off 17 and a "newbie" is a million miles so it's not comparable.

    In fairness I also said if it makes someone happy to droppnry on the best of gear when they can't utilise it that's their prerogative.

    Thats fair enough the OP did mention about getting lessons for the last 6 weeks but that was further down the thread after your first comment so you werent to know and i commented after 3/4 pages


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