First native G-SYNC monitor due in 2 weeks

jumbobreakfast · 12-05-2014 12:11PM #1

The DIY kit version got good reviews but was very expensive. This AOC one is the first native G-Sync monitor:
http://pcmonitors.info/aoc/aoc-g2460pg-g-sync-monitor

More general g-sync info here:
http://www.blurbusters.com/gsync/list-of-gsync-monitors/

I'm due an upgrade to my monitor so can't wait for one of these.

ShadowHearth · 12-05-2014 08:15PM

How expensive will it be? It will be funny if difference will be so big that you better off buying non gsync monitor and better or am extra gpu.

Yeti Beast · 12-05-2014 10:33PM

I had been waiting on the 27" ROG G-Sync screen, but it's starting to look like vapourware. I won't be upgrading for a few months, but this AOC is now on my watchlist (along with the amazing looking widescreen LG).

lmimmfn · 13-05-2014 12:46AM

Hmm, i wouldnt mind updating my screens, £350 for a 24" 1080p TN Panel is nuts even with G-Sync. And Vesa has added Adaptive-Sync to the DisplayPort 1.2a so it should be fairly standard in a few years.

Better deal is a nice cheapo ~320euro QNIX 27" PLS 2560x1440 that overclocks to 120Hz.

jumbobreakfast · 13-05-2014 11:24AM

lmimmfn wrote: »

Hmm, i wouldnt mind updating my screens, £350 for a 24" 1080p TN Panel is nuts even with G-Sync.

I thought that too but according to one of the links I posted it's the same panel as the BenQ XL2420Z which is about £300. I need to do some more research on why that is but I'm willing to spend a bit more to get an improved gaming experience. I've had the same monitor for more than 5 years and it's not even 1080p (1680x1050) so I'm well overdue an upgrade.

lmimmfn wrote: »

Vesa has added Adaptive-Sync to the DisplayPort 1.2a so it should be fairly standard in a few years.

Apparently adaptive-sync/freesync won't work beyond 60Hz at the moment but I've yet to see that properly confirmed

Yeti Beast · 13-05-2014 08:14PM

Hopefully AMD can get it to work at higher refresh rates too. Would much prefer an open standard to become the norm rather than a proprietary one.

lmimmfn · 13-05-2014 09:04PM

jumbobreakfast wrote: »

I thought that too but according to one of the links I posted it's the same panel as the BenQ XL2420Z which is about £300. I need to do some more research on why that is but I'm willing to spend a bit more to get an improved gaming experience. I've had the same monitor for more than 5 years and it's not even 1080p (1680x1050) so I'm well overdue an upgrade.

Apparently adaptive-sync/freesync won't work beyond 60Hz at the moment but I've yet to see that properly confirmed

even the BenQ one is very expensive for a TN panel however the BenQ is a 144Hz panel whereas like you said the Gsync one will be capped at 60( at least with Gsync enabled ). If i had to buy now the Qnix 27" is a much much better deal, its bigger, higher rez, can do 120Hz and is PLS, at least to tide a gamer over until adaptive vsynch is the norm.

According to the news on Vesa adaptive vsynch it will support higher than 60

Q: What is the supported range of refresh rates with FreeSync and DisplayPort™ Adaptive-Sync?
A: AMD Radeon™ graphics cards will support a wide variety of dynamic refresh ranges with Project FreeSync. Using DisplayPort™ Adaptive-Sync, the graphics card can detect and set an appropriate maximum and minimum refresh rate based on the capabilities reported by the display. Potential ranges include 36-240Hz, 21-144Hz, 17-120Hz and 9-60Hz.

http://www.guru3d.com/news_story/vesa_adds_adaptive_sync_to_displayport_video_standard.html

The other problem i have with Gsync is it ties you to Nvidia cards and getting tied to AMD or Nvidia for the lifetime of a screen is a bad thing.

I also have a crappy 1680x1050 22" screen, but have 2 22" 1080p screens either side( slightly smaller as 16:9 screens ). My issue is when i upgrade ill need 3 screens, could never go back to 1 screen.

jumbobreakfast · 13-05-2014 11:01PM

I don't think I was clear enough. Nvidia GSync works up to 144Hz but the adaptive sync method that AMD are looking into (freesync) which will be part of the display port standard hasnt been shown to work beyond 60Hz. They are saying that it could potentially work up to 240Hz but we'll have to wait and see and it could take a long time to get there. Basically, gsync is proven but the other method isnt ready yet and I can't wait another 6 months

Delayed until late June: http://pcmonitors.info/aoc/aoc-g2460pg-g-sync-monitor

Yeti Beast · 22-05-2014 07:31PM

I see Acer have announced a 4K monitor with G-Sync, the XB280HK. Don't fancy 4K myself - would prefer either a higher refresh rate than is currently possible on 4K, or a 21:9 aspect ratio (or ideally both, in some fancy schmancy future monitor tech).

Anyway, here's their spiel.

Burgo · 22-05-2014 08:41PM

Another interesting g-sync monitor was announced recently;

The SWIFT PG278Q features a 27-inch WQHD (2560 x 1440) resolution, fast 120+ Hz refresh rate, 1ms response time, full range ergonomic adjustments, ASUS GamePlus and NVIDIA® G-SYNC™ technologies that are designed to deliver the ultimate gaming experience.

http://www.hardocp.com/news/2014/01/06/asus_announces_rog_swift_pg278q_premium_gaming_monitor

Yeti Beast · 23-05-2014 04:44PM

Burgo wrote: »

Another interesting g-sync monitor was announced recently;

http://www.hardocp.com/news/2014/01/06/asus_announces_rog_swift_pg278q_premium_gaming_monitor

Yeah, I mentioned it above. Seems to be stuck in development limbo at the moment although Asus say it's still definitely coming. Hopefully we'll see/hear more at Computex in June.

jumbobreakfast · 23-05-2014 05:14PM

Another one with even higher resolution: http://us.acer.com/ac/en/US/press/2014/77934

I think 1080p will do me fine for now though, I don't want to have to buy another graphics card as well

Yeti Beast · 23-05-2014 05:30PM

jumbobreakfast wrote: »

Another one with even higher resolution: http://us.acer.com/ac/en/US/press/2014/77934

I think 1080p will do me fine for now though, I don't want to have to buy another graphics card as well

I linked that one above too.

Agreed though - I just don't have the cash to spend on a PC needed to run such high resolutons.

Yeti Beast · 03-06-2014 01:19PM

Yeti Beast wrote: »

Yeah, I mentioned it above. Seems to be stuck in development limbo at the moment although Asus say it's still definitely coming. Hopefully we'll see/hear more at Computex in June.

Coming in July apparently, and will be priced around $800. Sure it's 1440p, 144Hz and has GSync, but it's still only a TN panel. Reviews would have to be glowing before I part with that kinda cash.

Luck100 · 13-08-2014 08:30AM

Reviews are in and they do glow

http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/asus_rog_swift_pg278q_gsync_monitor/
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/asus_rog_swift_pg278q.htm

Anybody getting one of these babies?

jumbobreakfast · 13-08-2014 08:33AM

It looks awesome but I cant justify G-Sync since I bought an Oculus Rift DK2

Wossack · 13-08-2014 08:46AM

Bit too pricey imo (£700?), though the first iteration always is

BeerWolf · 13-08-2014 09:00AM

Meh, pretty happy with my ASUS VG248QE 24" [144 Hz] monitor.

Nody · 13-08-2014 10:45AM

Never have and never will buy new technology for the PC when it's released. I rather wait a generation or two to get stable, a lot cheaper, less buggy hardware at a reasonable price rather than sit with gen 1 item which drops like a stone in price and quality by comparison

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McSasquatch II · 13-08-2014 05:32PM

Can't justify spending that much money, but it's definitely the monitor type I want. Hopefully other manufacturers have similar panels on the way.

Luck100 · 13-08-2014 05:42PM

Yeah, I think I'll get a g-sync eventually but the premium is a bit steep for the early adopters. I was just hoping somebody went nuts and got one, I'm really itching to see it in person.

McSasquatch II · 13-08-2014 08:54PM

The premiun is hard to work out - they're definitely shafting early adopters with the Swift (which is why I wouldn't buy now), but how much exactly is the G-Sync tax? I mean, there are no other official 1440p 144 Hz panels around to compare prices with, so that may carry a premium in itself. Then the fact that while it's still only a TN panel, it's probably the best TN panel going (8bit colour etc). That surely adds on more cost. And I'm sure they've added a few quid simply because of the ROG branding.

So yeah, more competition from other vendors will hopefully reveal a more realistic price!

Shiminay · 14-08-2014 11:00AM

That's WAAAAAAY too expensive to consider. Cool tech and the reviews do seem favourable, but the money's just too much for me.

Wossack · 14-08-2014 11:22AM

aye, would says its more sensible to spend that money on more graphics power to overcome the vsync performance hit

McSasquatch II · 14-08-2014 12:45PM

Nah, I'd rather keep my money 'til comparable panels are available. I'm using a 120Hz display currently. Buying more GPU grunt won't guarantee me 120+FPS in modern games, unless I'm willing to tone down some visual fidelity. Even then, I'll still get input lag with a lot of games when V-Sync is enabled.

The good news is AMD's solution seems to be ready for testing and should be available from a few different vendors early next year, according to Tech Report.

ScumLord · 14-08-2014 01:08PM

Oak76 wrote: »

The good news is AMD's solution seems to be ready for testing and should be available from a few different vendors early next year, according to Tech Report.

I wouldn't be too excited about either system when they're in competition with each other. It would need to be a standard that anyone can use for it to be of any use to the general user.

McSasquatch II · 14-08-2014 01:10PM

ScumLord wrote: »

I wouldn't be too excited about either system when they're in competition with each other. It would need to be a standard that anyone can use for it to be of any use to the general user.

From a price perspective though, the competition is good news.

ScumLord · 14-08-2014 02:19PM

Oak76 wrote: »

From a price perspective though, the competition is good news.

I think they'll just drive prices up as one manufacturer tries to trump the other with better technology. Agreed to standards mean that the technology is agreed to and can be made cheaply from then on. There are no license fees to pay and no manufacturer can say they've got a better system than the other because they're all using the same technology. Standardised parts just become part of the production line without all the media hype and management meetings to drive up the cost to the end user.

Overheal · 14-08-2014 04:34PM

not sure where the last thread was I discussed this in, but yeah I was never interested in G-Sync, too proprietary. Just like the way Shadowplay went, nvidia was big on that tech and AMD comes along and offers it as a free software addon for a lot of older cards (77xx and above I think?)

McSasquatch II · 14-08-2014 05:20PM

ScumLord wrote: »

Agreed to standards mean that the technology is agreed to and can be made cheaply from then on. There are no license fees to pay and no manufacturer can say they've got a better system than the other because they're all using the same technology. Standardised parts just become part of the production line without all the media hype and management meetings to drive up the cost to the end user.

Well isn't that what AMD's solution is? It works via a VESA standard, implemented in DisplayPort 1.2a.

First native G-SYNC monitor due in 2 weeks

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