Expired Passport for Alcohol?

Aether · 10-06-2014 04:47PM #1

Firstly, sorry, I have no clue which section to post this, so if a mod could move it that would be great.

Just wondering if an expired passport is an acceptable form of ID to buy alcohol with. I'm going to a concert that's on the same day as my 18th birthday, but my passports expired, and it would take to long to renew it.

Any ideas?

wazky · 10-06-2014 04:48PM

Bring your mammy along for parental verification.

The_Pretender · 10-06-2014 04:48PM

As far as I know they have the right to refuse you, but from personal experience most of the time they won't refuse to serve you.

ScumLord · 10-06-2014 04:49PM

Grow a beard, nobody questions the beard.

Yer Aul One · 10-06-2014 04:50PM

It would need to be some very diligent bouncer to spot the passport is out of date. They usually are busy looking at the picture and DOB.

Unless its a snipped passport, then you will be in trouble.

Technically, they could refuse as it is not an acceptable ID but I think you will be safe!

Aether · 10-06-2014 04:50PM

wazky wrote: »

Bring your mammy along for parental verification.

m8 i swear ill hook u in da gabbr

Yer Aul One wrote: »

It would need to be some very diligent bouncer to spot the passport is out of date. They usually are busy looking at the picture and DOB.

Unless its a snipped passport, then you will be in trouble.

Technically, they could refuse as it is not an acceptable ID but I think you will be safe!

Alright, cheers lads.

Menas · 10-06-2014 04:50PM

Get a garda Id or provisional drivers licence?

Rabbo · 10-06-2014 04:50PM

No way, everyone knows that once your passport expires you revert to being underage again

gctest50 · 10-06-2014 04:51PM

http://www.anpost.ie/AnPost/MainContent/Personal+Customers/Sending+Mail/Speed/Passport+Express/

4 passport photos + 89 euros + 10 days

Aether · 10-06-2014 04:52PM

Trigger Happy wrote: »

Get a garda Id or provisional drivers licence?

You have to be 18 to apply for one.

gctest50 wrote: »

4 passport photos + 89 euros + 10 days

I'm afraid post being post that I'll get it back after the concert and be stuck with no passport at all.

househero · 10-06-2014 04:52PM

They prob wont notice its expired. Get your mate to buy your beers if your not confident. IF they ask, you can show your ID.

FearDark · 10-06-2014 04:52PM

So I'm guessing your passport has a picture of a 7 year old you.
How on earth will the bouncers/bar staff accept that!?

o1s1n · 10-06-2014 04:53PM

I remember being refused years back with an expired passport. I told the bouncer I didn't want to go on holiday abroad, just wanted to have a pint.

It didn't help the situation. :pac:

Aether · 10-06-2014 04:54PM

FearDark wrote: »

So I'm guessing your passport has a picture of a 7 year old you.
How on earth will the bouncers/bar staff accept that!?

I have pretty "noticeable" features... if that helps...

Amirani · 10-06-2014 04:54PM

FearDark wrote: »

So I'm guessing your passport has a picture of a 7 year old you.
How on earth will the bouncers/bar staff accept that!?

Passports for under 18s last for 5 years only.

FizzleSticks · 10-06-2014 04:55PM

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FloatingVoter · 10-06-2014 04:55PM

Carrying a valuable document like a passport about to prove your age is stupid no matter what age you are. Get Garda ID or some other acceptable form of ID.

blackwhite · 10-06-2014 04:56PM

Aether wrote: »

You have to be 18 to apply for one.

I'm afraid post being post that I'll get it back after the concert and be stuck with no passport at all.

You can get a driving learner permit at 17, not 18.

Aether · 10-06-2014 04:57PM

blackwhite wrote: »

You can get a driving learner permit at 17, not 18.

Don't have a provisional yet. And I need a valid passport to get one.

Gran Hermano · 10-06-2014 04:57PM

If your passport has expired they can legally only sell you beer past it's best before date.

Amirani · 10-06-2014 04:58PM

FloatingVoter wrote: »

Carrying a valuable document like a passport about to prove your age is stupid no matter what age you are. Get Garda ID or some other acceptable form of ID.

It's an out of date passport, so it's not really valuable anymore.

You can't get a Garda ID when you're under 18.

FearDark · 10-06-2014 04:58PM

FizzleSticks wrote: »

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In fairness Tesco's rules on this are retarded.

Aether · 10-06-2014 05:00PM

I just need it to buy drink by the way. Surely I'll be served by someone?

TimeToShine · 10-06-2014 05:01PM

Aether wrote: »

I just need it to buy drink by the way. Surely I'll be served by someone?

It'll be fine. I used an expired passport for years.

FizzleSticks · 10-06-2014 05:08PM

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anncoates · 10-06-2014 05:09PM

If you pay me into the concert, buy me drink all night and don't stand near me, ill buy your drinks for you

darkpagandeath · 10-06-2014 05:09PM

Yeah I don't really get stuff like this, Out of date passport with reasonable picture is a valid form of identification as the expiry date is for the travel use aspect of the document. As the information provided on the passport will never change. It's stupid tbh just another tax I mean your birth cert does not go out of date...I mean if you have changed in appearance a lot since the picture that's the only time you should need to change the passport.

Menas · 10-06-2014 05:11PM

Give a friend with valid Id your ticket.
He goes in, has a few pints , watches the gig and then sneaks a pint of beer out to you after the gig.
As you slurp the warm flat beer he tells you all about the gig.
Best solution all round.

pO1Neil · 10-06-2014 05:14PM

Awwwwww you little teeny boppers are so cuteeeeeeeee

:o:o

Mr_Red · 10-06-2014 05:16PM

Aether wrote: »

Firstly, sorry, I have no clue which section to post this, so if a mod could move it that would be great.

Just wondering if an expired passport is an acceptable form of ID to buy alcohol with. I'm going to a concert that's on the same day as my 18th birthday, but my passports expired, and it would take to long to renew it.

Any ideas?

lol its still you in the Passport

they cant not accept it

irish_goat · 10-06-2014 05:17PM

Diego Simeone wrote: »

It's an out of date passport, so it's not really valuable anymore.

It is cause you need it to get a new one.

Amirani · 10-06-2014 05:18PM

irish_goat wrote: »

It is cause you need it to get a new one.

It's not a requirement for getting a new one, though it does make the process easier.

irish_goat · 10-06-2014 05:32PM

Diego Simeone wrote: »

It's not a requirement for getting a new one, though it does make the process easier.

There's some rule about only being issued so many as well though, so you're always best to give the old one back.

PizzamanIRL · 10-06-2014 05:34PM

It's not as if your date of birth changes once your passport expires. What a load of balls if they refuse it.

meoklmrk91 · 10-06-2014 05:37PM

I use my expired passport all the time for buying drink, have never once had an issue, even in Tesco and it expired two years ago.

blackwhite · 10-06-2014 05:38PM

Aether wrote: »

Don't have a provisional yet. And I need a valid passport to get one.

You do not need a passport to get a driving permit.
Who told you that nonsense?

padser · 10-06-2014 05:45PM

Aether wrote: »

You have to be 18 to apply for one.

I'm afraid post being post that I'll get it back after the concert and be stuck with no passport at all.

You have to be 18 to but drink too. What's the problem??

desultory · 10-06-2014 05:50PM

I have my expired passport (with the corners cut) that I bring with me for ID, I rarely need it but on the one occasion I did a bouncer said he couldn't accept it because it wasn't a valid passport.
What!? I didn't realise crossing the threshold of the pub was entering into a different country. Fúcking idiot.

Amirani · 10-06-2014 05:50PM

padser wrote: »

You have to be 18 to but drink too. What's the problem??

If you apply for one on your 18th birthday, it won't be ready for a couple of weeks.

Is that not incredibly obvious?

gavindublin · 10-06-2014 05:53PM

desultory wrote: »

I have my expired passport (with the corners cut) that I bring with me for ID, I rarely need it but on the one occasion I did a bouncer said he couldn't accept it because it wasn't a valid passport.
What!? I didn't realise crossing the threshold of the pub was entering into a different country. Fúcking idiot.

It has an expiry date, it expired, thus making it invalid.

and the bouncer is the ****ing idiot. .....

desultory · 10-06-2014 05:54PM

gavindublin wrote: »

It has an expiry date, it expired, thus making it invalid.

and the bouncer is the ****ing idiot. .....

Invalid for use as a passport. It still works to show my age and identification.

Amirani · 10-06-2014 05:55PM

gavindublin wrote: »

It has an expiry date, it expired, thus making it invalid.

and the bouncer is the ****ing idiot. .....

Invalid for international travel. Not invalid as a photographic representation of a person that contains their date of birth.

gavindublin · 10-06-2014 05:57PM

Diego Simeone wrote: »

Invalid for international travel. Not invalid as a photographic representation of a person that contains their date of birth.

Its only valid use is for international travel

ToddyDoody · 10-06-2014 05:58PM

By law, I'm required to confiscate your expired passport

gavindublin · 10-06-2014 06:00PM

ToddyDoody wrote: »

By law, I'm required to confiscate your expired passport

You personally?? Like a best before passport catcher??

Yer Aul One · 10-06-2014 06:00PM

desultory wrote: »

Invalid for use as a passport. It still works to show my age and identification.

Diego Simeone wrote: »

Invalid for international travel. Not invalid as a photographic representation of a person that contains their date of birth.

It would not be seen as a valid proof of identity by most institutions i.e. banks, insurance companies, government depts etc.

Amirani · 10-06-2014 06:00PM

gavindublin wrote: »

Its only valid use is for international travel

No it's not, stop making stuff up.

ToddyDoody · 10-06-2014 06:01PM

gavindublin wrote: »

You personally?? Like a best before passport catcher??

Maybe, if I'm wearing a suit

Amirani · 10-06-2014 06:01PM

Yer Aul One wrote: »

It would not be seen as a valid proof of identity by most institutions i.e. banks, insurance companies, government depts etc.

I agree, and I don't have a problem with that. This is a different situation though.

Yer Aul One · 10-06-2014 06:04PM

Diego Simeone wrote: »

I agree, and I don't have a problem with that. This is a different situation though.

Not really sure it is. The question is whether the expired passport is good for use as ID. If we are saying its invalid for:
International travel
ID for opening a xtra-vision account
ID for making a withdrawal from your bank account

Then why is it suddenly acceptable for buying drink?

gavindublin · 10-06-2014 06:07PM

Diego Simeone wrote: »

No it's not, stop making stuff up.

You show me the sign in the passport office that says gets you away on holidays and gets you into the boozer.

its a travel document. By default it a valid form of id when its valid. When its an invalid form of id its invalid.
Then the best before catcher thinks he can take it and its theft.

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