Air Asia Flight missing..

I'm thinking that maybe (happened tonnes of times before) that pilots get a computer malfunction and don't know how to handle it. Look at the case in 1986 on Aeroperu, computer telling them they're at 10,000 feet when they crash into the Pacific. You never know how someone will react until it happens. Failure with CRM contributing to stress or inadequate training in heavy storms. That's the type of incompetency I'm talking about.

braddun wrote: »

Malaysian air carriers bad year losing 3 planes


I wonder will they all be found to be bombs

man98 wrote: »

I'm thinking that maybe (happened tonnes of times before) that pilots get a computer malfunction and don't know how to handle it. Look at the case in 1986 on Aeroperu, computer telling them they're at 10,000 feet when they crash into the Pacific. You never know how someone will react until it happens. Failure with CRM contributing to stress or inadequate training in heavy storms. That's the type of incompetency I'm talking about.

Watched a few episodes of "BlackBox" and now an expert???

(happened tonnes of times before) that pilots get a computer malfunction and don't know how to handle it

Tonnes of times??

Look at the case in 1986 on Aeroperu, computer telling them they're at 10,000 feet when they crash into the Pacific

Aeroperu was a B757 and the result was reported as The cause of the instrument failure was a maintenance worker's failure to remove tape covering the static ports necessary to provide correct instrument data to the cockpit.

Since the flight was at night over water, no visual references could be made to convey to the pilots their true altitude or aid the pilots in the descent. Also, as a consequence of the pilots' inability to precisely monitor the aircraft's airspeed or vertical speed, they experienced multiple stalls, resulting in rapid loss of altitude with no corresponding change on the altimeter. While the altimeter indicated an altitude of approximately 9,700 feet, the aircraft's true altitude was in fact much lower.

There are substantial differences between the technology of a B757 and an A320, not the mention the more common usage of GPS.

I can't see any resemblance between the 757 crash and this event.

Pilots get stressed, can make erratic decisions and so on

Do you have any experience as a professional pilot?

tharmor wrote: »

Malaysian airlines holds 50% stake in Airasia for everyone's information !!!

Sensationalist Rubbish

Ownership "Indonisian AirAisa" is as follows "AirAsia Berhad" has a 49% share in the airline with "Fersindo Nusaperkasa" owning 51%. Indonesia's laws disallow majority foreign ownership on domestic civil aviation operations.

Ownership of Air Asia is a little more complex as seen below, with Tony Fernades been the main man behind it financially and Irish man Connor McCarthy as the brains behind the operation

I don't have any commercial experience as a pilot, no, but that doesn't mean I can't hold an opinion as to what has happened in this tragedy. As I can't be arsed arguing, I'll wait and see where this is taken.

So a Guy makes a blatant statement of Knowledge, which they clearly could not have at this stage, and it is wrong to question the posters expertise!!

Aviation has become an area in which every arm chair expert has an opinion and an answer. Watching black box etc does not give you the full facts nor does it give one a real insight into the dynamics in play on the flight deck of an aircraft.

Aviation has become synonymous with the phrase "Pilot Error" and this is I believe unique in the professional world as is the fact that in most cases the one who makes the error will also pay the price.

I think most Pilots find it hard to take it when the media and the public at large are so quick to jump to judgement and everyone has the expert opinion from some talking head on some 24/7 news channel. I think its important to consider that the news channel just needs to fill the minutes till the next headlines and they will broadcast almost anything that fills the void.

I see CNN have brought out Richard Quest in this case as a de facto expert on all things aviation, what is his qualification??

At the moment everything is pure speculation and while many pilots may have opinions most will keep them to themselves until there is more concrete info.

andy_g wrote: »

As is usual with these types of threads and incidents, I'd like to ask everyone to keep speculation down until there is more known.

This is not to put a end to the conversation but lease keep the speculation down and the girly arguement are you a pilot of A,B,C or about experience.

Perhaps you'd care to rephrase? I'm sure that kind of language could be considered misogynistic.

I really do not understand the lust for speculation in such tragic incidents. There could be many reasons why the aircraft crashed. As highlighted most investigations take a long time to come to a finding and often there is a Swiss cheese scenario where multiple factors play a part. It's completly ludicrous for anyone to sit in their armchair tonight to come out with baloney such as.. " well I think this happened or that happened". It's nosensical and serves no purpose nobody knows Jack **** apart from there was bad weather in the area which may or may not have been a contributory factor. Boggles the mind.

I wonder how the people who missed the flight because it was rescheduled (assuming that info is accurate), are feeling now. Must be shocking.

Tenger wrote: »

Prof Plum should know better than to question a Mod in thread.

As a long standing poster I will give them the benefit of the doubt. "girly" is not misogynist but rather a reference to the term "handbags"....as in stupid fight/argument amongst highly emotional and reactive individuals.

As proven in the past, threads such as this are highly emotive, speculative and also attract non-aviation posters.....thus we need to be a bit more intrusive in our modding activity

Was down my local christmas eve and commented to a mate how we had a lot of visiting punters around..... Ill make the same comment tonight

True!