Boston Bomber Found Guilty

08-04-2015 09:36PM #1

Boston Bomber Dzhokar Tsarnaev has been found guilty of the atrocity after two months of jury selection and 17 days of moving and often disturbing testimony from 95 witnesses. It took a Boston jury just over 11 hours to convict Dzhokhar Tsarnaev on all charges relating to the 2013 Boston Marathon bombing.

Tsarnaev, 21, was found guilty of all 30 counts against him, including conspiracy to use a weapon of mass destruction, for his role in the attack that left three people dead and 264 injured two years ago. Seventeen charges carried the death penalty, and the same jury will now decide whether to sentence Tsarnaev to death or life in prison without possibility of parole.

The jury officially began their deliberation on Tuesday morning following closing statements from the prosecution, the defence, and a brief prosecution rebuttal. Assistant US attorney Aloke Chakravarty gave an emotional closing argument which aimed to ram home the horror of Tsarnaev’s crimes. As the clerk slowly delivered the verdict, Tsarnaev, dressed in a charcoal jacket and blue-grey sweater, remained impassive.He fiddled with his hands, hugged himself, scratched his hair and beard, but did not appear to react as the guilty verdicts were read. Briefly, at the end, he placed his head in his hands, before returning them to his pockets.

Bolded bit is weird. You reckon this chap is deserves the death penalty or life imprisonment. I'm torn on it. He's bloody young for one thing but then again, so was his victim Martin Richards, who hadn't even hit double digits yet

Full article here:

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/apr/08/dzhokhar-tsarnaev-verdict-boston-marathon-bombing

libelula · 08-04-2015 09:40PM

I don't know how he can not deserve a death penalty tbh.
Then again, sometimes I lack compassion for people who can deliberately and methodically fcuk up and/or end so many lives.

Fr_Dougal · 08-04-2015 10:06PM

libelula wrote: »

I don't know how he can not deserve a death penalty tbh.
Then again, sometimes I lack compassion for people who can deliberately and methodically fcuk up and/or end so many lives.

Let him rot in prison knowing that he'll never get out. No martyrdom, nothing.

lertsnim · 08-04-2015 10:11PM

Death would be too easy for someone like him. He should be left to rot for the rest of his natural life.

Lisa2011 · 08-04-2015 10:14PM

Agreed. I think he should suffer for what he did and the death penalty is the easy way out.

Who knows he might end up being killed while in prison.

Menas · 08-04-2015 10:17PM

Life in prison is what he deserves.
Death is too soft for this fella.
His defence was pretty ****...."my brother told me to do it".

allthedoyles · 08-04-2015 10:23PM

they need to send out the right message to other would-be / home-grown jihadists , so life in prison is best .

Macavity. · 08-04-2015 10:25PM

I'm shocked, thought he was innocent.

08-04-2015 10:26PM

allthedoyles wrote: »

they need to send out the right message to other would-be / home-grown jihadists , so life in prison is best .

Dzhokhar was a student at University of Massachusetts Dartmouth who became a naturalized U.S. citizen on September 11, 2012, seven months before the bombings.

Eerie coincidence if true.

My name is URL · 08-04-2015 10:36PM

'The death penalty is too good for him' is such a bull**** reason to oppose the death penalty.

You're either in favor of it as a punishment or you're not.

Saying things like 'oh well, maybe in cases like this' isn't justice.. it's vengeance.

crockholm · 08-04-2015 11:55PM

Would probably prefer to see him get the Death penalty,failing that,life in solitary.As long as we won't walk out a free man ever again,that will be the best outcome.

In a sort of mixing of threads,one of the officers involved in the manhunt and capture of the suspect,officer Moynihan,was shot in the face and critically wounded during a routine traffic stop Little over a week ago by a career criminal,Angelo West.

suicide_circus · 08-04-2015 11:57PM

Another death won't solve much I'm afraid.

hfallada · 09-04-2015 12:01AM

He will most likely end up in ADX Florence in Colorado. Read this article and you will find out its probably worst than the death penalty. Zero Human interaction most of the time, you dont see any natural light, you often pinned down to your bed. They even take people off their medication for mental health issues, as its makes them too happy

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/29/magazine/inside-americas-toughest-federal-prison.html

I think a prison like this is the best punishment. Imagine living in this place until the day you die.

4zn76tysfajdxp · 09-04-2015 12:02AM

I hope they don't give him the death penalty. A high profile case like this one in particular wouldn't need to end so barbarically.

harry Bailey esq · 09-04-2015 12:12AM

The death penalty would only make a 'martyr' of him.His lot love that sh1t.

harry Bailey esq · 09-04-2015 12:14AM

The death penalty would only make a 'martyr' of him,his lot love that sh1t.Not much of a punishment either

policarp · 09-04-2015 12:22AM

If he is going to be killed
let it be tomorrow.

Billy86 · 09-04-2015 02:16AM

Rather than the death penalty or life in prison as a 'revenge' of sorts, how about life imprisonment as a means of actually analysing him, figuring out his motivations, if-and-how he was manipulated, how his brain works, etc that all lead to him doing what he did, and... you know... call me crazy, but try to prevent things like this from happening in future?

lertsnim · 09-04-2015 02:36AM

My name is URL wrote: »

'The death penalty is too good for him' is such a bull**** reason to oppose the death penalty.

You're either in favor of it as a punishment or you're not.

I'm completely opposed to it for all crimes.

efb · 09-04-2015 02:37AM

I'm completely opposed to the death penalty. Life imprisonment.

JCX BXC · 09-04-2015 02:37AM

He's a right messed up bastard isn't he?

For him, the only punishment I would find acceptable is a slow painful torture. Forget human rights, we know he did forgot them when killing all those people. His limbs should be cut off one by one in a sign of justice for people who lost their limbs.

efb · 09-04-2015 02:38AM

He's certainly inglorious

murpho999 · 09-04-2015 02:48AM

Carnacalla wrote: »

He's a right messed up bastard isn't he?

For him, the only punishment I would find acceptable is a slow painful torture. Forget human rights, we know he did. His limbs should be cut off one by one in a sign of justice for people who lost their limbs.

Never get this sort of logic.

Countries should not be murdering or torturing people as a form of punishment.

Although the crimes are terrible , states should stand above their level and retain the morale high ground by not resorting to their level.

This eye for eye stuff just makes the punishers just as evil as the criminal in my opinion.

Billy86 · 09-04-2015 02:52AM

Carnacalla wrote: »

He's a right messed up bastard isn't he?

For him, the only punishment I would find acceptable is a slow painful torture. Forget human rights, we know he did. His limbs should be cut off one by one in a sign of justice for people who lost their limbs.

And the benefit to society from this would be... ???

JCX BXC · 09-04-2015 02:54AM

Why should people who commit such sick and disgusting crimes be treated humanely? People will never get justice from this man. If he was tortured in the most extreme way it would not be justice, his crimes are too extreme.

It sickens me that seriel killer pedofiles get such benefits in prisons in Europe, TVs, bathrooms etc.

Saudi Arabia is the only country with the right punishments for extreme crimes. (Although I don't agree with a lot of there laws)

JCX BXC · 09-04-2015 02:55AM

Billy86 wrote: »

And the benefit to society from this would be... ???

A lot better than leaving him in prison and costing €10,000. It acts as a serious disincentive to people to commit these crimes and finally they deserve it. They should know their victims pain.

Arsemageddon · 09-04-2015 03:03AM

Carnacalla wrote: »

Saudi Arabia is the only country with the right punishments for extreme crimes. (Although I don't agree with a lot of there laws)

Strangely enough hacking arms and legs off, gouging out eyes and stoning people to death has done nothing whatsoever to reduce crime.

I have to be off now, have fun with all your torture fantasies!

JCX BXC · 09-04-2015 03:07AM

Arsemageddon wrote: »

Strangely enough hacking arms and legs off, gouging out eyes and stoning people to death has done nothing whatsoever to reduce crime.

Reference to this?

I can only imagine it would reduce it. Would you be more inclined to steal a bar of chocolate in Saudi Arabia or steal a car in Ireland?

That's not the point at hand. Why should they be left in prisons to watch tv, exercise, read and get the occasional anal trauma*? The very least they should get is the death sentence. (Only in extreme cases should it be used, and this is one of them. A single murder doesn't warrant an execution.)

Arsemageddon · 09-04-2015 03:18AM

Carnacalla wrote: »

Reference to this?

I can only imagine it would reduce it. Would you be more inclined to steal a bar of chocolate in Saudi Arabia or steal a car in Ireland?

That's not the point at hand. Why should they be left in prisons to watch tv, exercise, read and get the occasional anal trauma*? The very least they should get is the death sentence. (Only in extreme cases should it be used, and this is one of them. A single murder doesn't warrant an execution.)

A reference to why torturing and mutilating people is not a deterrent to crime? Seriously? Try a couple of centuries of western legal tradition, multiple international treaties or even basic common sense.

You are the one proposing all the fvcked up ideas about wanting to inflict extreme pain on people, I'd say the onus is on you to try and back up what your saying with some actual proof.

Billy86 · 09-04-2015 03:48AM

Carnacalla wrote: »

A lot better than leaving him in prison and costing €10,000. It acts as a serious disincentive to people to commit these crimes and finally they deserve it. They should know their victims pain.

And this "slow painful torture" you want - you expect it to be a free service?

God forbid we actually try to study and analyse these types of people and what caused them to do what they did, in order to reduce the chances of this type of thing occurring again. Sure that would just be madness altogether!

Billy86 · 09-04-2015 04:18AM

Carnacalla wrote: »

Reference to this?

I can only imagine it would reduce it. Would you be more inclined to steal a bar of chocolate in Saudi Arabia or steal a car in Ireland?

That's not the point at hand. Why should they be left in prisons to watch tv, exercise, read and get the occasional anal trauma*? The very least they should get is the death sentence. (Only in extreme cases should it be used, and this is one of them. A single murder doesn't warrant an execution.)

And yet despite Saudi Arabia having skewed crime statistics due to resolving many matters outside of the courts, they still have a higher crime rate than Denmark, Norway, Finland, Germany, Spain, Estonia, Iceland, Poland, Austria and Switzerland to name a few - none of which practice either the death penalty nor the torture methods you so keen on in this case. Crime in these countries is also generally decreasing over time, whereas in Saudi Arabia it is on the rise.

They should not be killed because we can learn from them - we know they are deeply disturbed individuals, but we also know there are many more like that out there, and will be in the future. The only way to try and combat that is by figuring out why they are so deeply disturbed, and why they did what they did (on a subconscious/neurological level) to try and reduce it in the future by any findings gained from them.

Boston Bomber Found Guilty

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