Remotely Turn on Climate Control Leaf

k123456 · 27-04-2016 08:29AM #1

Hi Have a 2016 SV leaf with cold pack (cold pack includes 4 heated seats and heated steering wheel ( and possibly heated mirrors ; need confirmation on this))

When I remotely turn on climate control, the heat comes on and the steering wheel heats

I noticed the heated seats did not come on, and not sure if the mirrors were heated

Should the seats come on ? Drivers only would be ideal

I don't have any timers set up and the outside temp this morning was 2deg, my car was not on charge and the battery % was 53%

I didnt see an option to pick a cabin temp, does the remote climate control pick a random comfortable temp ?

Thanks

steelboots · 27-04-2016 08:32AM

I only use the timer to turn these things on. But my understanding is you need to have the seats you want heated switched on when you last got out of the car, same goes for steering wheel and what ever was the last temp set is what is used. Not ideal as you may be getting out of the car on a warm evening and you need to remember to switch on the seat & steering heating.

KCross · 27-04-2016 08:52AM

Maybe MY16 is different to MY15 but in MY15 you can specify what temp the remote climate control is set at and its independent of what you last used while driving. I click the Zero Emmissions button, then Settings and in there there is a "Timer/Remote - Set Climate Temp" settings and you set the temp you want.

It would be strange that MY16 would remove that feature but this is Nissan so its entirely possible they did!

I also see the steering wheel heater come on during remote heating eventhough I never use it manually.

I do think the seat heater switches have to be turned on beforehand if you want the seats heated, which kinda makes sense really. The main idea of the remote heating is to clear the windows and get the air temp up.

k123456 · 27-04-2016 08:57AM

Thx, must check the the Zero Emmissions button,

k123456 · 27-04-2016 09:21AM

Thanks Folks, one other question, Cold pack , does that include heated mirrors (defrosting)

baktag · 27-04-2016 09:25AM

It does
I have the 161 SV with cold pack

Padraig Mor · 27-04-2016 10:02AM

I have a MY15 Leaf with cold pack and the remote climate starts the climate control* and the heated steering wheel. It doesn't turn on the seats, but if you have left the switch in the On position, it will.

*unfortunately the remote climate only starts cabin heating, but NOT air conditioning, with the result that you have a warm cabin whose windows you can't see through!

BoatMad · 27-04-2016 06:20PM

There are several items present in carwings that did not transfer across to NissanconnectEV

27-04-2016 07:27PM

Padraig Mor wrote: »

*unfortunately the remote climate only starts cabin heating, but NOT air conditioning, with the result that you have a warm cabin whose windows you can't see through!

I've never got into the car after pre heat with fogged up windows with the timer set.

Remote activating the heating turns the heating on for max, 15 mins where the timer can turn on the heat 40 mins before , depending on the temperature so probably makes a big difference.

Even so I find the remote activation clears the windscreen quick enough for me.

Padraig Mor · 28-04-2016 09:26AM

Deleted User wrote: »

I've never got into the car after pre heat with fogged up windows with the timer set.

Remote activating the heating turns the heating on for max, 15 mins where the timer can turn on the heat 40 mins before , depending on the temperature so probably makes a big difference.

Even so I find the remote activation clears the windscreen quick enough for me.

Running the heat for 40 minutes before leaving seems like a ridiculous waste of battery to me. I don't know why they don't just turn on the aircon (it also doesn't turn on with climate control set at 'auto' - WTF???). The car heats up fine in 5 minutes, the car should be ready to go then, not require you to clear the windows first! Dunno why the difference to your experience - windows are often very foggy when I've remote activated (which is rare seeing as the ****ing app hasn't worked for most of my ownership!).

BoatMad · 28-04-2016 10:17AM

It must be the very definition of a first world problem lol

oinkely · 28-04-2016 11:07AM

Padraig Mor wrote: »

(which is rare seeing as the ****ing app hasn't worked for most of my ownership!).

FWIW Padraig, I can't get the Nissan connect App to work at all, however, the free Leaf Manager App works just fine for me.

28-04-2016 11:28AM

Padraig Mor wrote: »

Running the heat for 40 minutes before leaving seems like a ridiculous waste of battery to me. I don't know why they don't just turn on the aircon (it also doesn't turn on with climate control set at 'auto' - WTF???). The car heats up fine in 5 minutes, the car should be ready to go then, not require you to clear the windows first! Dunno why the difference to your experience - windows are often very foggy when I've remote activated (which is rare seeing as the ****ing app hasn't worked for most of my ownership!).

No, preheating off the timer when plugged into the mains can work for up to 40 mins, probably to make sure the car is plenty warm. But 15 mins max when remote activated.

After you activate the heat remotely and get into the car why not then press the de-mist button ?

If I don't pre heat the car and get in with fogged up windows it clears in about 3-5 mins anyway at least the windscreen which is a hell of a lot better than any ICE.

I presume the thinking was that having AC and Heat on together will consume more energy and pre heating when not plugged into the mains already consumes a bit of energy.

When in Auto the AC only comes on when it's warm enough to require using it. I do find in the 2015 that the Auto is not good for warm weather, I find myself having to use it manually though I can't remember now whether I had the car in Eco or not, Eco restricts heater and AC output.

Padraig Mor · 28-04-2016 11:59AM

Deleted User wrote: »

After you activate the heat remotely and get into the car why not then press the de-mist button ?

If I don't pre heat the car and get in with fogged up windows it clears in about 3-5 mins anyway at least the windscreen which is a hell of a lot better than any ICE.

I do press it, but my point is I shouldn't have to wait 3 - 5 minutes after getting into the car to go. Surely the idea behind remote climate is you just get into the car and drive? As it stands, if I want to do this on a cold/moist morning, I have to go out to the car and put on the climate/AC manually, which rather defeats the purpose.

I presume the thinking was that having AC and Heat on together will consume more energy and pre heating when not plugged into the mains already consumes a bit of energy.

Maybe, but I'd imagine that the heating function consumes far more power than the air conditioning.

When in Auto the AC only comes on when it's warm enough to require using it. I do find in the 2015 that the Auto is not good for warm weather, I find myself having to use it manually though I can't remember now whether I had the car in Eco or not, Eco restricts heater and AC output.

AT the end of the day, it's just a pretty ****ty climate system (I also find myself having to up the fan speed manually to cool the car properly on a warm day, even when the climate is set to its lowest system). It's a pity really - the heart of the Leaf (drivetrain, battery, etc) is great, but Nissan didn't really think through some of the more minor, yet still important, finer details properly.

28-04-2016 12:26PM

Padraig Mor wrote: »

As it stands, if I want to do this on a cold/moist morning, I have to go out to the car and put on the climate/AC manually, which rather defeats the purpose.

I thought we were talking about "remote" activation ? if you getting into the car on a cold morning then you'll be using the timer function ? I've never had any issues with fogged up windows in the mornings after timer use, I just get in and drive and laugh at the Diesel all misted up and remembering the bad O'l days lol

I set the timer departure time to the time I want to drive off and that's it, but there is no grace time it switches off at exactly that time so if you get in and the climate control is off then you're not setting the timer at the right time or perhaps get in just after it turns off.

Either way, when the climate control is remote activated and plugged into the mains or not it will work only for 15 mins and this may not be enough , the timer function knows exactly the time needed and as I said can work up to 40 mins depending on how cold it is.

Padraig Mor wrote: »

Maybe, but I'd imagine that the heating function consumes far more power than the air conditioning.

Yes it does but the two together would consume more and I think the reason behind this is because the AC uses the heat pump in reverse and the heat AC can not turn on until the high voltage circuit is active which only happens when the car is turned on. The heater can work off the mains afaik.

Padraig Mor wrote: »

AT the end of the day, it's just a pretty ****ty climate system (I also find myself having to up the fan speed manually to cool the car properly on a warm day, even when the climate is set to its lowest system). It's a pity really - the heart of the Leaf (drivetrain, battery, etc) is great, but Nissan didn't really think through some of the more minor, yet still important, finer details properly.

As I said the AC limitation might have been with the car in Eco which also reduces power to the heater.

With the car in Eco the car can get cool enough in winter and switching off Eco didn't seem to make a difference so I turned off the climate altogether for a few seconds and back on and after a few seconds saw the heater consumption climb a lot to re heat to the temperature so the same might apply to the AC in warm weather. So, if using Eco the thing to do is when you turn off Eco also turn off the climate control then back on. I don't know whether this is a bug or not. I don't know if it applies to the 2016's.

28-04-2016 12:28PM

Padraig Mor wrote: »

AT the end of the day, it's just a pretty ****ty climate system (I also find myself having to up the fan speed manually to cool the car properly on a warm day, even when the climate is set to its lowest system). It's a pity really - the heart of the Leaf (drivetrain, battery, etc) is great, but Nissan didn't really think through some of the more minor, yet still important, finer details properly.

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I think what the Auto does is to minimise the air flow so that the the heat leakage with the cabin exhaust air stays at minimum. The auto really only works with 1/2 passengers and even then only when their clothes are dry upon entering the vehicle.

28-04-2016 12:33PM

Ac and Heat should be able to work in Auto.

Sometimes I think the problem lies with the air flow pointing only to the feet so you might have to set it to the windscreen and feet together or just the windscreen.

BoatMad · 28-04-2016 12:48PM

samih wrote: »

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I think what the Auto does is to minimise the air flow so that the the heat leakage with the cabin exhaust air stays at minimum. The auto really only works with 1/2 passengers and even then only when their clothes are dry upon entering the vehicle.

Ive never used AUTO, always just either heat or AC manually activated

Padraig Mor · 28-04-2016 02:14PM

samih wrote: »

Add your reply here.

I think what the Auto does is to minimise the air flow so that the the heat leakage with the cabin exhaust air stays at minimum. The auto really only works with 1/2 passengers and even then only when their clothes are dry upon entering the vehicle.

Every other car I've had with climate control, pressing Auto resulted in the system quickly getting the car to the set temperature using heat/AC, and then adjusting the settings itself to keep it at that temp. Not sure why Nissan seem to want the Leaf to be different.

BoatMad · 28-04-2016 02:29PM

Padraig Mor wrote: »

Every other car I've had with climate control, pressing Auto resulted in the system quickly getting the car to the set temperature using heat/AC, and then adjusting the settings itself to keep it at that temp. Not sure why Nissan seem to want the Leaf to be different.

in my view AUTO seems to have a preference for Heat over AC, yet I find the Leaf is very prone to fogging with only heat . Nearly always I have to run heat with AC ,which the AUTO seems reluctant to activate

28-04-2016 02:53PM

Padraig Mor wrote: »

Every other car I've had with climate control, pressing Auto resulted in the system quickly getting the car to the set temperature using heat/AC, and then adjusting the settings itself to keep it at that temp. Not sure why Nissan seem to want the Leaf to be different.

In all fairness, I've yet too drive an ICE that warms up in a fraction of the time the leaf does.

Never mind getting out to a car fully warmed up with seats and steering warm.

As I said, if you haven't being doing so already, use the cars timer and set the departure time to the time you want to leave and see if it makes a difference. remote activation won't be able to work for as long. I've yet to get into the leaf with fogged up windows using the timer.

Remotely Turn on Climate Control Leaf

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