New Alternative News Channel "GB News" chaired by Andrew Neil launching - read OP before posting

Mic 1972 · 20-07-2021 02:45PM

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why would that be any of your concerns? People are obviosly responding well to his videos, it is not up to anyone to provide you with reasons why they enjoy Farage. All opinions must be represented

ancapailldorcha · 20-07-2021 02:58PM

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It's interesting that you ignored the post to write this and I don't know what point, if any you're endeavouring to make here. What is it I'm missing out on by ignoring Farage? I watched plenty of videos of him before and it's always the same thing. The man's the most predictable entity in British politics at this stage.

breezy1985 · 20-07-2021 03:00PM

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I can't learn anything from a man who I believe is a complete liar who spouts stupid easily taken apart barstool falsities about the M25 elite

Mic 1972 · 20-07-2021 03:18PM

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There is nothing interesting in not engagin in negative bias, As i said beofre I enjoy Farage and i'm happy he is on GB news.

I dont have to have an opinion on your views

20-07-2021 03:30PM

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Do you think Nigel Farage is a racist?

ancapailldorcha · 20-07-2021 03:32PM

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Suit yourself but it's weird that you're bothering to post if that's the case.

ohnonotgmail · 20-07-2021 03:34PM

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do you?

Quin_Dub · 20-07-2021 03:34PM

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The argument you put forward was the people might learn something new or gain insight by watching Farage on GB News.

The point being made is that he has nothing new to say , he never has - I watched him 10 years ago , I watched him 5 years ago and I watched him last year. He was still saying EXACTLY the same thing.

Tuning in to watch him on GB News is the exact definition of confirmation bias - He'll say exactly what you expect him to say and confirm what you already thought/believed beforehand.

In fact that is the entire point of GB News as it currently stands - It's not News , it's opinion and it's exactly the same opinion their target audience has had for years.

Absolutely no one is going to have their mind changed or expanded by watching GB News.

If you already agree with their views then their output will resonate , if you currently disagree their bombastic approach will do absolutely nothing to disabuse you of your current view.

Thought provoking TV it is not.

20-07-2021 03:36PM

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Certainly not.

There is no evidence of that whatsoever.

20-07-2021 03:41PM

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Exactly the same thing?

The migrant crisis across the English Channel has not been going for 10 years.

His views on lockdown, COVID-19, and effects on small businesses, has not been going for 10 years.

His views on the 1922 Committee in the UK have not been going for 10 years.

All of which, and more, were discussed on his inaugural GB News TV show last night.

But you are pretending to have listened to Farage a lot over the past 10 years just to utter the falsities peppered throughout your post.

KildareP · 20-07-2021 03:54PM

If ever there was a video that sums up Nigel Farage, it's this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlKX70oRLws

All sound and no substance.

And when his lack of substance is shown, "oh well it was all just completely meaningless anyway" and on to the next quickfire soundbite about unelected old men in Brussels.

So if indeed it was all just completely meaningless, why did he bring it up in the first place?

And, remind me again, wasn't he one of those "old men of Brussels" for 20+ years?

At least on LBC, the callers were able to challenge him - his GB News show is essentially an echo chamber where he can say whatever he likes and no-one to say or ask otherwise.

20-07-2021 04:02PM

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He's right.

We, like the French and Dutch and Danes, were forced to vote again. It's also true that the EU Commission is unelected.

When he spoke of "meaningless", he's referring to the changes that Claire Byrne brought up. And to that end, he's right - tiny, irrelevant changes that make no meaningful difference to Ireland's position in the EU. And his point was that it would have been better for the EU to have listened to Ireland's voice the first time instead of being bullied and forced to agree to the "right answer" to the question.

And yes, he did bring up the EUs general faults. He's right too - after all, he has an audience to speak to at home to try and win conversions. Only a total fool would not have exploited that opportunity.

As for him working 20-years in the EU, absolutely. But he was one of the few campaigning for the job to disappear as fast as possible!

In the end, it is you providing soundbites.

Mic 1972 · 20-07-2021 04:06PM

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The argument i put forward from the very beginning is that a new channel with a non-left view is a welcome change and I'm rooting for them.

I also pointed out how strange that people who dismiss the channel seem so threatened by it.

KildareP · 20-07-2021 04:06PM

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Meaningless - but yet we got what we wanted. I suppose we should do what he said and leave the EU (funny you didn't address that point - was it not you accusing of being selective?) instead, that's really going well for the UK after all!

ancapailldorcha · 20-07-2021 04:13PM

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The opening assertions here are objectively wrong. As I said, he's nothing more than an unprincipled grifter.

breezy1985 · 20-07-2021 04:42PM

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Most media already had a non left view. They are not filling the gap they claim to be filling because it doesn't exist.

Its the same old " I am going to say the things you are not allowed to say" despite the fact these supposed not allowed topics have been discussed in the media ad nauseam for years

breezy1985 · 20-07-2021 04:44PM

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He was also a City of London worker for years despite being all about not being one of the M25 elite

Quin_Dub · 20-07-2021 04:47PM

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The "Issue" that he rails about might be different over time , but the message is always the same.

Europe Bad , Immigrants Bad , British Empire Awesome.

He might intersperse it with the odd dig at the "establishment" to ensure he keeps his "man of the people" credentials , but he has nothing new to say , ever.

ohnonotgmail · 20-07-2021 04:49PM

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He goes on about Great Britain but he is really just a little englander. and a tedious one at that.

breezy1985 · 20-07-2021 04:50PM

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I don't know how anyone falls for the man of the people thing. Even the way he says India pale ale in that video is like someone who had to practice how to say the words for the first time. Its an IPA no one ever uses the full name

ancapailldorcha · 20-07-2021 05:17PM

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Confirmation bias. The cigar and the pint help but they're just window dressing. As long as he plays to their xenophobia and baser prejudices, they'll lap up anything he says.

breezy1985 · 20-07-2021 05:50PM

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All they really need is someone who has enough profile to be on TV telling them their racism is ok

20-07-2021 09:10PM

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Wanting to control your own borders, like Australia and Canada and the US - with visas, and so on, is not racist.

It's called being responsible.

Unless, of course, you are arguing that the above countries ARE racist because they have implemented policies which Nigel Farage happens to want for the UK?

breezy1985 · 20-07-2021 09:41PM

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All of my substantial dealings with brexiters went way beyond wanting to control borders it was racism and xenophobia.

Nothing I have seen from Garage over the last few years has changed my mind on that.

Not doing a great job with those visas right now either. Construction and hospitality are in a deep staffing crisis

20-07-2021 09:50PM

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So, from that, you would argue that the 52% who opted to Brexit were largely racist people?

banie01 · 20-07-2021 09:54PM

Andrew Neil's proxy The Spectator has seemingly decided to run a "hit" piece on Marcus Rashford probably as the dead cat to shift media attention away from the latest Cummings interview and the fallout that should ensue from the utter clownshow of Boris' premiership.

Imagine taking an editorial line no doubt approved by Mr Neil as chairman, that besmirching the feeder of children, and slayer of Tory MPs is a newsworthy topic on the day Boris is accused of pursuing Senecide as a government policy.

https://twitter.com/MarcusRashford/status/1417560450393329666?s=19

20-07-2021 09:58PM

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Let's see the piece first, and the evidence, before drawing any firm conclusions.

That said, judging from his Tweets, it does seem that he financially benefited from his actions.

If that turns out to be the case, then his intentions and ethics must be called into question.

Put the shoe on the other foot: if this were Nigel Farage, the Left would be having a field day with accusations and abuse.

Timberrrrrrrr · 20-07-2021 09:59PM

Jesus that Farage lad is a joke, nothing but pure scutter from start to finish.

mcmoustache · 20-07-2021 10:06PM

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Diversity of opinion is great, don't get me wrong but that diversity is only step one. What a lot of people fail to grasp is that the important step is assigning value to those opinions and making a judgement. For example, I would assign a high value to legal advice from a solicitor while I would assign a low value to legal advice from some bloke down in the pub, even if he was drinking a pale ale.

A basic part of being human is the ability to learn, and a lot can be learned by listening to experts about the fields in which they are experts. Unfortunately we now live in an age where idiots are dumbing themselves down even more by filling their heads with low-information content and even worse, misinformation and it's having real-world consequences. For a while, it didn't affect me directly but now it is. I can't even meet my dealer now without listening to shíte about 5g vaccines and all sorts of crap and it's all because average people are letting themselves be duped by conmen. It's gotten a bit personal which is why I find my way into these threads.

breezy1985 · 20-07-2021 10:33PM

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No because I don't believe 52% of the people who voted for Brexit done it because of Farage or watch GBnews.

I said people watch Farage to have themselves patted on the back for their racism. I never said all brexiters are although most of the ones I met were but I didn't meet all 52%.

So stop the sad attempt to try catch me out

New Alternative News Channel "GB News" chaired by Andrew Neil launching - read OP before posting

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