Vaccine Megathread No 2 - Read OP before posting

No reason at all why mRNA type vaccines with a 4 week gap between doses could not have been allocated to the general population in their 60s. There was plenty of supply to cover those in their 50s who were largely fully vaccinated between mid May and mid June.

I'm not whining - just pointing out that it was a poor strategy to use AZ in the way it was, when you look at it from the stated objectives of the overall scheme.

As regards the future, who knows. All medicines have side effects and sometimes these only become apparent after time. If it were to come pass that say those who were given AZ are shown to statistically have a greater risk from some limiting health condition - e.g. a greater likelihood of stroke. Then the state and taxpayer could be in big trouble as the state clearly said to this age cohort 'Take this AZ vaccine or go to the back of the queue'. Singling out one group of citizens from the rest is always inadvisable and should be avoided. The state has potentially exposed itself to a risk that it didn't have to.

I am not saying you are whining, I am saying some people would have if they had been delayed while AZ was available. And that would have put a lot of pressure on the government.

The first 50s were vaccinated on the 10th May. On this day, 269k people over 60s were already vaccinated (338k vaccinated now). So 80% of the 60s were vaccinated before the 50s started. The overlap and the situation where "a Pfizer was given to a 50s where it could have been given to a 60s" then only applies to 69k people (minus the people that registered late or could not get the jab at this time because they were infected or unavailable). I am not denying the overlap, but that is not the majority of cases. Should we have delayed 269k people to wait for the Pfizer doses that were eventually given to the 50s ?

Agreed on your last paragraph, and that is the same for all the decisions that have been taken recently, we don't know what is the best call. They finally opened Janssen for everyone and people under 35s (me included) are rushing to get one. What if it is the worse one for young people? There are too many articles on each vaccines, that gives an illusion of choice and that we should have an opinion on each brand, but they are all approved by the EMA. We get 5-10 jabs when we were children and our parents did not know the brand or list of possible effects. We take dozens of tablets in our life, and if we were reading carefully the notices and the list of potential effects, we would not take even an ibuprofen.

At the end of the day we all sign a paper that taking the vaccine is our choice and that we understand what we do, so I am not sure if the state will be made liable if something happens.

An interesting Twitter thread on the apparently ineffective J&j vaccine.

https://twitter.com/monscience/status/1417815387476013057?s=21

City West would I think

I went early for both jabs in citywest, they just wanted to see the text message.

I’m 27 and registered three days ago. Got a text today for an appointment for Pfizer vaccine on Monday. Really quick I’m very surprised! Does anyone know when I get to the vaccination centre in Citywest would they be able to give me the Janssen jab if I asked or would it have to be the Pfizer???

No you won't get J&J , it'll be Pfizer

I went by GP and you were in a queue and someone took the name of next in line. My first jab I was out just as my appointment time went on my watch

There was a lot of countries that did the same as us with AZ we were the last. People were lauding the UK with there spacing out vaccines. They are trying to vaccinate everyone. Should they stop everyone getting a vaccine until everyone over x is vaccinated. That is stupid and slow

You do know why you have not received your vaccine don't you. Its because you have the virus and could give it to people. You will get it as soon as you are better. Your daughter and everyone are getting there vaccine at a quick rate surely that is great news but no its moan as someone may be before you

Looking that way, waiting a good while myself but I know of friends who registered only this morning and have already gotten appointments at the other Dublin Centres.

Cohort 4: People aged 16-69 years and at very high risk of severe COVID-19 disease

Cohort 7: People aged 16-64 years with medical conditions at high risk of severe COVID-19 disease

Source: https://www2.hse.ie/screening-and-vaccinations/covid-19-vaccine/rollout/

Although this other source says Cohort 7 is 16-59: https://covid-19.geohive.ie/pages/vaccinations

16 and over. Both my nephew and niece, one on both cohorts, got theirs aged 16.

Got my 2nd Pfizer 8 hours ago. Still feel good, only very very mild arm pain. Should I feel optimistic that I've escaped symptoms?

Croke Park is going at a snail's pace. 28+ days waiting for second jab and 36 year old brother only got first jab there yesterday.

Probably wasn't clear there. I'm 28+ days waiting for the second shot and those very helpful people on the hotline told be there was nothing they could do until it got to 5 weeks and only then would they escalate it.