annual leave being canceled

_Brian wrote: »

It’s how you apply yourself in any situation that counts. Nobody gets managed out for knowing their rights, knowing your rights is very important. But how you interact is really important. Even within your rights you can handle things right or wrong.

Don’t be a fool and think you can act like a dick towards your employer and there not be implications down the line.

It can he allot more subtle than being managed out, promotions, project work, working abroad opportunities, someone has to decide who does and doesn’t get these things.

Same goes for HR, people think HR are some kind of independent body there to protect employees from the big bad company. Often I’d have sat with HR prior to disciplinary meetings to plan what outcome we would want and how best it was achieved.

I’ve left that life behind now and I’m mostly not as hard nosed as I once was, but I see so many people shooting off their mouths thinking there’s no fallout possible. Management strategies in large companies, particularly multinationals is fierce behind the scenes. Employees who make life hard are identified and often this has implications down the line.

_Brian wrote: »

That poster is 100% correct.
I’ve worked in a number of companies Amy supervisor and manager level amd an employee displaying that attitude would be watched tight, I’ve been instructed on a few occasions to manage such employees out the door, and in some instances I’ve done it too.

I smile to myself when people give the advice to go back to your employer and the first approach being to act like a dick, do you seriously think that doing that doesn’t have implications down the line ?? Yes the employer was wrong in this instance either by mistake or not, but acting like a dick in return just further degrades the relationship and that a bad move, if I make a mistake I want someone to come back and point it out discreetly, we all make mistakes, and when an employee comes back at me acting like an asshole, I remember that down the line.

Mimon wrote: »

This is despicable, wouldn't be posting this.

Deleted User wrote: »

Someone is either worth the money or they aren't. Judging their worth on the fact that someone else is willing to pay them more and you're afraid you'll lose them is a scumbag tactic and should not be tolerated.

I all my years, I personally have never heard of any one, being made a serious counter to stay.

Yes you read about it, and hear 3rd hand stories. But not directly.

The ones I've been close to the person has always left, as they've usually already made the commitment to switch in their own head.

The counter offer comes to late, and is too little and too shortsighted to make any difference.

I'd say people being head hunted is more common, and more likely to succeed.

That's a strange view point. If anything the manager has been highlighted to HR as a complete risk asking employees to work after approving their leave. Said manager has likely been put back in their box. Further victimising the employee will be looked on very dimly by HR. All the employee needs now is one follow up incident of anything perceived to be out of line, and he has the manager for bullying and being unfairly treated. Most companies would not risk their rep on a loose canon manager that cant follow the rules. There are several ways to look at any situation.

Op the manager should have clearly explained the reason why they were asking you to accommodate, not telling you that you had to work....and left it up to you. A decent manager would have come up with an alternative plan or flagged ahead upwards that they were short cover for that day, had you said no. My guess is the manager messed up with the schedule and tried to cover it by telling you to work.