bupa 10K run in dublin 5th April ?

Quality Feet · 31-03-2009 8:22am

jlang wrote: »

What an awful map! The route schematic itself is fine, but the representations of the park perimeter and the surrounding area are woeful. It's obviously based on a Google Maps map and done by someone who doesn't know which parts of green are inside the park and which local place names are of any relevance.

they also forgot to show the deer and people on the playing fields and walk ways

nerraw1111 · 31-03-2009 11:38am

The predicted race starting times are: elites, then, 35-45, 45-55, 55-65, 65+.

I'm currently running 50 mins in training comfortably taking in obstacles such as traffic lights and crossing roads etc.

Quite fancy taking on a sub 45min time which I think is achieveable so thinking about starting in the 35-45 group.

But at the same time I don't want to ruin things for people who may have a more realistic chance of achieving a sub 45.

On the other hand, from what I read, I don't want to be stuck with jokers who have ignored the timed startings and spend my time battling through walkers and slower runners.

Any advice? I want to avoid being one of those jokers and avoid said jokers! Start in the 45-55mins and still potentially run a sub 45? If not, no harm done?

mrak · 31-03-2009 12:42pm

nerraw1111 wrote: »

The predicted race starting times are: elites, then, 35-45, 45-55, 55-65, 65+.

I'm currently running 50 mins in training comfortably taking in obstacles such as traffic lights and crossing roads etc.

Quite fancy taking on a sub 45min time which I think is achieveable so thinking about starting in the 35-45 group.

But at the same time I don't want to ruin things for people who may have a more realistic chance of achieving a sub 45.

On the other hand, from what I read, I don't want to be stuck with jokers who have ignored the timed startings and spend my time battling through walkers and slower runners.

Any advice? I want to avoid being one of those jokers and avoid said jokers! Start in the 45-55mins and still potentially run a sub 45? If not, no harm done?

I'd go with the 35-45 group and just sit towards the back of that group. You will be one of the few people respecting the zones and expect to see plenty of fat old blokes and gangs of girls in hen-costume sitting up with the 35 minuters.

Also as a completely unrelated question - why are bupa still sponsoring this since they left the irish healthcare market? Do they still sell something over here?

rainbow kirby · 31-03-2009 12:51pm

I think Bupa are just sponsoring the Great Run organisation as a whole, it's not Ireland-specific.

christeb · 31-03-2009 12:51pm

[QUOTE=mrak;59629415

Also as a completely unrelated question - why are bupa still sponsoring this since they left the irish healthcare market? Do they still sell something over here?[/QUOTE]

Think I heard it was because they are fulfilling their contractual duty until sponsorship runs out. Don't think they are active in the Irish market anymore.

ZiggyStardust · 31-03-2009 1:16pm

nerraw1111 wrote: »

The predicted race starting times are: elites, then, 35-45, 45-55, 55-65, 65+.

Are there different coloured numbers for each starting wave. I haven't picked up number yet, but remember when entering having to give my predicted time and a link to the race where I achieved a similar time. This I think would work better than just starting anywhere and then people would get a fair run.

mrak wrote: »

I'd go with the 35-45 group and just sit towards the back of that group. You will be one of the few people respecting the zones and expect to see plenty of fat old blokes and gangs of girls in hen-costume sitting up with the 35 minuters.

Also as a completely unrelated question - why are bupa still sponsoring this since they left the irish healthcare market? Do they still sell something over here?

I think as rainbow kirby said Bupa sponsor the whole of the "great runs", although Bupa isn't in the official title of the race. Think it's just the Great Ireland Run.
Didn't Quinn Health sponsor this 2 years ago? Wonder why they didn't keep the sponsorship.

tantipie · 31-03-2009 1:33pm

as far as i know we;ll be sectioned off,hence giving our estimated time,,although i gave the wrong time,,2 hrs,,lol and emailed them,,they said it was grand,,didnt make any difference,:cool:

rovers_runner · 31-03-2009 1:39pm

Did the great capital run in hyde park last summer, also organised by same crowd.
Starting waves were colour coded and almost everyone kept to the colours they were given, it can work.

However I fear there will be carnage at the start on Sunday as with the field much larger than normal we'll have people there who insist on starting where they want to.

OldBloke · 31-03-2009 1:56pm

Looking forward to the race but cant imagine ill improve on last years time as im carrying an injury (not that it would have been fast anyway). Just hope the weather doesnt go all vivaldi like last year and give us the four seasons

SeanMurphy · 31-03-2009 1:58pm

rovers_runner wrote: »

However I fear there will be carnage at the start on Sunday as with the field much larger than normal we'll have people there who insist on starting where they want to.

Aw man....Im excited now...:p:D

Its gonna be my first ever race (outside secondary school). And my first ever 10k actually. But ive been training since January. My program has been like a build up to Sunday. Im running with my iPod too.. Bit of Bruce Springsteen...BABEH WE WERE BORRNN TO RUNNNN!:cool::D

rainbow kirby · 31-03-2009 2:08pm

That reminds me, I need to make my race playlist!

*ponders*

SeanMurphy · 31-03-2009 2:54pm

Saturday and Sunday will be bright and fresher days with sunny spells and some scattered showers in a mostly moderate west to southwest airflow. Daytime temperatures will be a degree or two lower than previous days.

Thats all from me. Until next time, A very, good evening.

Seres · 31-03-2009 3:22pm

thanks for the weather forecast , always good to know what your up Against weather wise

bazman · 01-04-2009 8:31am

Could someone please confirm for me that the route goes down the lower glen road (rather than the upper glen road)?

It makes a big difference in terms of course difficulty. Looks like the lower glen road from the map, but just surprised they would send us down there

Racing Flat · 01-04-2009 8:35am

bazman wrote: »

Could someone please confirm for me that the route goes down the lower glen road (rather than the upper glen road)?

It makes a big difference in terms of course difficulty. Looks like the lower glen road from the map, but just surprised they would send us down there

Not seen the map, and don't know the name of the roads, but last 2 years they did go down the furry glen (coming from the Chapelizod gate and up the hill). Does seem funny that they'd send 10,000 people down there when it's quite narrow...don't know if it's the same this year.

hawkwing · 01-04-2009 8:49am

I think it is the very same as 2007,2008. Personally i prefer an uphill finish going up the Kyber as that's my training run and it is too crowded running down it to get any sort of pace.The weather forecast looks decent so should be nicer that last years hailstorm which i just missed

damoz · 01-04-2009 9:56am

I assume ipods are banned - or at least i hope they are. Just noticing a few people making playlists etc - can we not run without it for 45 minutes in order to make the race fairer and safer (knowing whos around you or tyring to get by you) for all ?

rovers_runner · 01-04-2009 10:05am

damoz wrote: »

I assume ipods are banned - or at least i hope they are. Just noticing a few people making playlists etc - can we not run without it for 45 minutes in order to make the race fairer and safer (knowing whos around you or tyring to get by you) for all ?

Agree with this, with 9000 people on a tight bend at the 1km mark there is bound to be bother at the start.

RacoonQueen · 01-04-2009 12:20pm

damoz wrote: »

I assume ipods are banned - or at least i hope they are. Just noticing a few people making playlists etc - can we not run without it for 45 minutes in order to make the race fairer and safer (knowing whos around you or tyring to get by you) for all ?

I don't race with music but how do you figure that people with ipods have an unfair advantage?

RacoonQueen · 01-04-2009 12:23pm

It's very unlikely I'll be taking part now, first post-connemara run didn't leave my knee in the best condition yesterday and a close family member is about to pass away so I'll probably give it a miss. I assume I just post the chip back to them same as if I was running?

plodder · 01-04-2009 1:10pm

Racing Flat wrote: »

Not seen the map, and don't know the name of the roads, but last 2 years they did go down the furry glen (coming from the Chapelizod gate and up the hill). Does seem funny that they'd send 10,000 people down there when it's quite narrow...don't know if it's the same this year.

I'm pretty sure it's the lower Glen Rd. (with the familiar loop). Since, it's quite close to the finish, the field should be fairly well spread out I think.

Quality Feet · 01-04-2009 2:43pm

damoz wrote: »

I assume ipods are banned - or at least i hope they are. Just noticing a few people making playlists etc - can we not run without it for 45 minutes in order to make the race fairer and safer (knowing whos around you or tyring to get by you) for all ?

believe it or not some people like to run for fun and listening to music is part of the fun. with the crowds that will be running on Sunday it is probably more of a run than a race. Might i suggest trying to qualify for the olympics or at least a more serious road race if you are so against ipods:D

PainIsTemporary · 01-04-2009 2:44pm

Any link of official course route for Sunday??? Bit of confusion regarding whether tis going down Glen route or not

bazman · 01-04-2009 2:50pm

Quality Feet wrote: »

believe it or not some people like to run for fun and listening to music is part of the fun. with the crowds that will be running on Sunday it is probably more of a run than a race. Might i suggest trying to qualify for the olympics or at least a more serious road race if you are so against ipods:D

The fun is in interacting with people or in achieving your goal? Eitherway, no need for an iPod. If you're just listening to your iPod then you might as well just go for a jog. Why pay for the privilege? The park is free

Oh, and route does go down the glen unfortunately

PainIsTemporary · 01-04-2009 2:52pm

bazman wrote: »

The fun is in interacting with people or in achieving your goal? Eitherway, no need for an iPod. If you're just listening to your iPod then you might as well just go for a jog. Why pay for the privilege? The park is free

+1

bazman wrote: »

Oh, and route does go down the glen unfortunately

That's not what you told me yesterday. Sabotage!!!

Quality Feet · 01-04-2009 2:56pm

bazman wrote: »

The fun is in interacting with people or in achieving your goal? Eitherway, no need for an iPod. If you're just listening to your iPod then you might as well just go for a jog. Why pay for the privilege? The park is free

thats a good point but its a personal choice, while you may want to interact some people may not want to interact. are you saying that a person cant enjoy the occasion because he cant hear?

bazman · 01-04-2009 3:06pm

Quality Feet wrote: »

thats a good point but its a personal choice, while you may want to interact some people may not want to interact. are you saying that a person cant enjoy the occasion because he cant hear?

True, it's a personal choice. But iPod type devices are typically banned from events of this scale, with good reason. People who wear them have little awareness of what's going on around them, resulting in increasing safefy risks and potential for reducing the enjoyment of the event for others.

It is a race. Your final comment on suggesting qualifying for olympics or a more serious race is what triggered my response ... no matter what level you're at everyone will have a target.

Highway_To_Hell · 01-04-2009 3:42pm

bazman wrote: »

True, it's a personal choice. But iPod type devices are typically banned from events of this scale, with good reason. People who wear them have little awareness of what's going on around them, resulting in increasing safefy risks and potential for reducing the enjoyment of the event for others.

At the Adidas 1/2 marathon last year I had to pull an Ipod wearing competitor out of the way of the wheelchair participants that were coming up to the finishing line (we were still on our first lap) announcments were made over the PA system and everyone moved over to the right except this guy who was in a world of his own.

We spend enough hours running on our own listening to music to get through our training, for the race enjoy the bands that are playing at the different locations, encourage your fellow competitors and show appreciation to the people who line the route to support us on.

Quality Feet · 01-04-2009 4:02pm

i agree with all your points, all i am saying is that in an event like this some people will want to wear i pods and if they do let them at it

Highway_To_Hell · 01-04-2009 4:09pm

Quality Feet wrote: »

i agree with all your points, all i am saying is that in an event like this some people will want to wear i pods and if they do let them at it

Not if it hampers someone elses race, the instance I referred to above the athlete was leading the race and any break in concentration by having to change his race line could have adversely effected the outcome for him.

Quality Feet · 01-04-2009 4:22pm

Highway_To_Hell wrote: »

Not if it hampers someone elses race, the instance I referred to above the athlete was leading the race and any break in concentration by having to change his race line could have adversely effected the outcome for him.

we are talking about the bupa RUN, people should expect not to have a clear race line unless you intend running with the elite runners. if someone is in your racing line moved to the left or right and pass them

damoz · 01-04-2009 4:51pm

Well i guess ill try to get as close to the back to the elites as i can at the start - beside a few ipod wearing walkers no doubt, and then i wont have to dodge the oblivious, deaf, slow moving objects in the first km or two.

Failing that ill just deploy the elbows - so if your jogging along listening to Springstein and you get a dig, well at least you will know why.

Quality Feet · 01-04-2009 5:04pm

damoz wrote: »

Well i guess ill try to get as close to the back to the elites as i can at the start - beside a few ipod wearing walkers no doubt, and then i wont have to dodge the oblivious, deaf, slow moving objects in the first km or two.

Failing that ill just deploy the elbows - so if your jogging along listening to Springstein and you get a dig, well at least you will know why.

alternatively you could always not run and save yourself for the olympic marathon where apart from the odd crazy irish priest you are assured a clear run.

also with regard to the elbows just make sure that the person you hit is smaller than you.

ps anyone that listens to springsteen deserves an elbow

rainbow kirby · 01-04-2009 5:10pm

Quality Feet wrote: »

ps anyone that listens to springsteen deserves an elbow

+1

chinguetti · 01-04-2009 9:31pm

Why pick on poor Bruce? Has not the sound of 'Born to Run', 'Thunder Road' or 'Racin' In the Streets' inspired you all to run up that hill faster? :rolleyes:

rainbow kirby · 01-04-2009 10:22pm

I'd be more motivated by Slayer tbh :pac:

damoz · 02-04-2009 8:12am

Quality Feet wrote: »

alternatively you could always not run and save yourself for the olympic marathon where apart from the odd crazy irish priest you are assured a clear run.

also with regard to the elbows just make sure that the person you hit is smaller than you.

ps anyone that listens to springsteen deserves an elbow

so your argument is that there are elite runners and fun runners - and nothing in between. I dont think you will get too much support for that point of view on this forum - maybe im wrong.

I appreciate there is a large fun running element in this race - so as long as they start in the right place (ie towards the back) they can carry ghettoblasters on their shoulders for all i care

It still doesnt change my opinion though - if you enter a race (try telling Fagan and Tergat its only a run) , you should not wear an ipod as it is a safety issue - especially in larger crowds.

shels4ever · 02-04-2009 8:40am

damoz wrote: »

so your argument is that there are elite runners and fun runners - and nothing in between. I dont think you will get too much support for that point of view on this forum - maybe im wrong.

I appreciate there is a large fun running element in this race - so as long as they start in the right place (ie towards the back) they can carry ghettoblasters on their shoulders for all i care

It still doesnt change my opinion though - if you enter a race (try telling Fagan and Tergat its only a run) , you should not wear an ipod as it is a safety issue - especially in larger crowds.

I'd agree with that. But its not against the race rules or a issue for them. If there were any ipod related incidents last year i didnt hear..

Quality Feet · 02-04-2009 8:52am

damoz wrote: »

so your argument is that there are elite runners and fun runners - and nothing in between. I dont think you will get too much support for that point of view on this forum - maybe im wrong.

I appreciate there is a large fun running element in this race - so as long as they start in the right place (ie towards the back) they can carry ghettoblasters on their shoulders for all i care

It still doesnt change my opinion though - if you enter a race (try telling Fagan and Tergat its only a run) , you should not wear an ipod as it is a safety issue - especially in larger crowds.

i like the way you take one of my points and deal with it in isolatation. my entire point is that in general the Bupa is meant as a fun day out to encourage people to get out and take some exercise in a similar way to the womens mini marathon. yes their is a race element to each event but in general there are more serious races for people to take part in to achieve a pb. you know what the crowd will be like. lets face it 10,000 people running down the lower glen road with its uneven surface is more of a safety issue than a slow rumnner wearing an ipod. i know i am getting picky here but does it follow that people with hearing difficulties are also a danger. for what its worth i wouldnt wear an ipod my self but each to their own.
maybe we are destined to disagree, but hey enjoy the day

indieJones · 02-04-2009 9:05am

I'll be running with my ipod (starting at the back hoping for a sub 50 time). It helps me focus and be less self conscious to the sound of my breathing. The wire will be tucked under my t-shirt to avoid catching on things and it'll be suitably quiet that I'll be hear people. This is typical boards making mountains out of molehills. Just go out and enjoy the race.

P.S If anyone thinks elbowing is an acceptable way of getting me to make way. I will gladly take two minutes off my race time to show you my other sport is judo and break that ignorant elbow.

damoz · 02-04-2009 9:14am

haha - i didnt know i opened pandoras box here - i didnt know the ipod was such an emotive issue ! Hopefully your a heavyweight in Judo, in which case ill just out run you.

One of the main reasons i dont run with music is i need to listen to my breathing, it helps me concentrate and regulate it.

I will enjoy it - hopefully with a PB. Best of luck to all running, even those jogging listening to the ipod.

Quality Feet · 02-04-2009 9:14am

and if anyone elbows me im telling indie

hawkwing · 02-04-2009 9:41am

indieJones wrote: »

I'll be running with my ipod (starting at the back hoping for a sub 50 time). It helps me focus and be less self conscious to the sound of my breathing. The wire will be tucked under my t-shirt to avoid catching on things and it'll be suitably quiet that I'll be hear people. This is typical boards making mountains out of molehills. Just go out and enjoy the race.

P.S If anyone thinks elbowing is an acceptable way of getting me to make way. I will gladly take two minutes off my race time to show you my other sport is judo and break that ignorant elbow.

If you start at the back and are hoping for a sub 50 you might need to pass 7000-8000 people if the weather is nice in 10k so best of luck!

rovers_runner · 02-04-2009 12:42pm

rainbow kirby wrote: »

I'd be more motivated by Slayer tbh :pac:

Eagles of death metal ftw !

thirtyfoot · 02-04-2009 12:56pm

Quality Feet wrote: »

ps anyone that listens to springsteen deserves an elbow

You wear an ipod in races (and training I assume) and you are dissing Bruce Springsteen. Very uncool I'm afraid, very uncool.

Quality Feet · 02-04-2009 1:37pm

Tingle wrote: »

You wear an ipod in races (and training I assume) and you are dissing Bruce Springsteen. Very uncool I'm afraid, very uncool.

leave me alone or ill get indi to judo ya

nerraw1111 · 02-04-2009 1:44pm

I'm starting to see why there is an unofficial boycott on this race judging by the last two pages of comments. And then to diss Springsteen to top it off.

Quality Feet · 02-04-2009 1:51pm

nerraw1111 wrote: »

I'm starting to see why there is an unofficial boycott on this race judging by the last two pages of comments. And then to diss Springsteen to top it off.

why is there an unoffical boycott on the race

Clum · 02-04-2009 2:02pm

indieJones wrote: »

P.S If anyone thinks elbowing is an acceptable way of getting me to make way. I will gladly take two minutes off my race time to show you my other sport is judo and break that ignorant elbow.

Don't enter any cross country races then cos you'd end up leaving a trail of cracked limbs around the course.

rovers_runner wrote: »

Eagles of death metal ftw !

+1

Keedowah · 04-04-2009 10:04pm

Best of luck with the run tomorrow everyone!

I'll be the one with the red face at the back!

bupa 10K run in dublin 5th April ?

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