Would you like to have a gun?

CruelCoin · 12-08-2014 10:06AM

RenegadeDisco wrote: »

What will you do if there is a fire in your house and you can't get out cause you've locked the escape route??

Mr. Wood Axe, meet Ms. Window.

Also: Bedroom is small enough, that any fire big enough to block my route to the window would have incapacitated me already.

c_man · 12-08-2014 10:13AM

I've got the hurl beside my bed :cool:

Shenshen · 12-08-2014 10:16AM

whirlpool wrote: »

Imagine it. The middle of the night, you're sleeping in your bed, when you're woken up by a burglar in your room with a baseball bat. The burglar threatens you.

Maybe your young daughter is asleep in the next room.

You don't have a gun near your bed.

Imagine it.

Now imagine if you did have a gun near your bed.

Would you rather have a gun or not have a gun in that situation?

The Poll question is and the main question of this post is Would you like to have a gun?

No. I wouldn't shoot anyway.

So assuming it's dark in this scenario, I would rather have a fully loaded super-soaker under my bed. Disorient the burglar by soaking him head to foot and then run for it.

jimgoose · 12-08-2014 10:16AM

I've had a couple of guns for most of my life, and I can tell you that you are not going to keep a firearm and ammunition on your bedside locker unless you are a profoundly insane person. Aside from the chances of a family member, yourself included, hurting themselves with it, you're most likely to get the stock of your own 12-bore across the head from an intruder after you've just been woken up bleary-eyed and confused in the middle of the night by said intruder, who is on-the-job, fully alert, and possibly expecting misguided heroics.

Karl Stein · 12-08-2014 09:58PM

jill_valentine wrote: »

Amazing to think there's almost certainly already porn out there somewhere catering to this exact scenario.

A burglar being beguiled by a man dressing as a rabbit, a rabbit with human female characteristics, and then being whacked over the head by said man-rabbit?

Okay..

cerastes · 12-08-2014 10:30PM

shruikan2553 wrote: »

Guns are an uncivilised weapon. I prefer to shoot with a bow before charging down the stairs with a sword.

I prefer a lightsaber, more elegant, not as clumsy and random as a blaster

agent graves wrote: »

its very easy to say yes id rather have a gun.. but using it to shoot some one is a different story.. i reckon most would freeze up if they had to point blank shoot someone intruding in their house.

I think what is a realistic scenario, in a film on recently, the Godfather 2, Where the son failed to draw his gun and his father was assassinated by two hitmen, usually films portray people handling fireams well, I thought it was likely very accurate how he fumbled the gun and I dont think even got any shots off.

Id be concerned about answering the phone or turning off the alarm clock and blowing my brains out, assuming you weren't shot or beaten with it first by an assailant.

dmc17 wrote: »

Nah, these modern guns don't tend to freeze up as much as the vintage ones

my printer is very slow, by the timeI'd print it off, I'd have been robbed, much rather have a blunderbuss.

Wibbs wrote: »

Yep I'd like a Mauser C96 pistol in 7.63 please. Slots together ike a Chinese puzzle. The only screws are there to secure the grip. A custom made brand new one would be cool.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEYM3AmL9Xc

Or a Thompson submachine gun. Can't beat a Tommy gun for general mayhem. Never fired one, but did hold one. Weighed a bloody ton(tonne for the kidz).

Interestingly enough I believe the Chinese made copies before WW2, might even have been licensed copies.

Wibbs · 12-08-2014 10:54PM

cerastes wrote: »

Interestingly enough I believe the Chinese made copies before WW2, might even have been licensed copies.

They did too C. Forgot about that. In 45 ACP IIRC? Some fully automatic ones too. The nascent USSR dudes were mad for them and the German made models. One of its nicknames was the "bolo" from Bolshevik. Considered a real reliable room clearer by the Russian lads and they tend to be real sticklers for reliability as a cultural thang. I've read that they weren't reliable and hung up quite often. I dunno, I reckon that's down to the age of most of them these days. The one I had a go of was solid as fúck. I ran well over a hundred rounds through her over a couple of hours and no jams, hangups or any of that. It was only afterwards I realised how expensive the rounds were... Made worse as I was a guest of the folks who brought me to the range*.

*Being non east/west coast Americans they were just happy I was happy. I was their guest after all. Plus as one lad said I was actually hitting targets which made a nice change. The bastard.

There can be such a different America outside NY and LA. The American heartland that gets ripped off and laughed at even by coastal Americans. Unless it's election time... I did insist on paying my way and they wouldn't hear of it. Was damn near taken as an insult to their hospitality. So I said I'd get the grub and beers in and balance was restored.

Well I was hardly gonna get too argumentative with folks who were twice my size(not exactly difficult in fairness) and who could part a gophers hair at 500 yards with a 30.06.

dutopia · 12-08-2014 11:03PM

Before when burglars were pretty much all opportunists and would mostly break in when you weren't there or if disturbed they'd run off - no, I wouldn't have a gun. These days? Criminals breaking in purposefully when you are there so they can get to show them where the stuff is and threaten you and your family - yes, I would have a gun if available. I have a young child in the house and I would do anything to protect her.

jimgoose · 12-08-2014 11:35PM

Wibbs wrote: »

They did too C. Forgot about that. In 45 ACP IIRC? Some fully automatic ones too. The nascent USSR dudes were mad for them and the German made models. One of its nicknames was the "bolo" from Bolshevik. Considered a real reliable room clearer by the Russian lads and they tend to be real sticklers for reliability as a cultural thang. I've read that they weren't reliable and hung up quite often. I dunno, I reckon that's down to the age of most of them these days. The one I had a go of was solid as fúck. I ran well over a hundred rounds through her over a couple of hours and no jams, hangups or any of that. It was only afterwards I realised how expensive the rounds were... Made worse as I was a guest of the folks who brought me to the range*.

*Being non east/west coast Americans they were just happy I was happy. I was their guest after all. Plus as one lad said I was actually hitting targets which made a nice change. The bastard. There can be such a different America outside NY and LA. The American heartland that gets ripped off and laughed at even by coastal Americans. Unless it's election time... I did insist on paying my way and they wouldn't hear of it. Was damn near taken as an insult to their hospitality. So I said I'd get the grub and beers in and balance was restored. Well I was hardly gonna get too argumentative with folks who were twice my size(not exactly difficult in fairness) and who could part a gophers hair at 500 yards with a 30.06.

.45 ACP kicks serious azzz. Oi loikes the 1911 Colt semiauto.

LostBoy101 · 13-08-2014 12:09AM

I wouldn't dream of having a gun and if this ends up with gangsters waving their guns in the streets then god help the country.

_Redzer_ · 13-08-2014 01:19AM

Do I get extra points for headshots?

Do my kills stack for a predator missile?

Sir Arthur Daley · 13-08-2014 01:44AM

Own a gun and see it as part of the furniture, a sense of security against burglars.
Hope the day will never come that i have to use it in my own home but if i feel the need to i will.

IamMe33 · 13-08-2014 02:25AM

Manic Moran wrote: »

So are other scenarios, which have other outcomes. Guess which is more common.

As far as I know there are no reliable statistics for the percentage of households with irresponsible gun owners who have loaded guns unsecured in bedrooms, young children living there and dangerous/tragic incidents that resullt.

Even if only a tiny percentage of all the gunowners who allow those circumstances to exist result in a fatality it still doesn't mean it's not a moron move.

Arcturus IV · 13-08-2014 02:38AM

Only if I wanted to use it for outdoor target practice, or as an old antique weapon. After that, I'd just use a Hurley and a baseball bat for personal defence.

Steviemoyne · 13-08-2014 02:46AM

simplybam wrote: »

I rather stick with my crow bar. It's more personal that way

Gordon Freeman? You have a boards account?

Four-Too · 13-08-2014 02:53AM

The only reason I would want a gun is to forward Irish freedom and the Republic. To be able to stand among the nations of the earth once and for all, justice and fairness for all on the island.

IamMe33 · 13-08-2014 03:09AM

ITT - much eager vigilantism, Walter Mitty style.

Egginacup · 13-08-2014 03:11AM

whirlpool wrote: »

Imagine it. The middle of the night, you're sleeping in your bed, when you're woken up by a burglar in your room with a baseball bat. The burglar threatens you.

Maybe your young daughter is asleep in the next room.

You don't have a gun near your bed.

Imagine it.

Now imagine if you did have a gun near your bed.

Would you rather have a gun or not have a gun in that situation?

The Poll question is and the main question of this post is Would you like to have a gun?

A taser would be just as effective and I wouldn't have to worry about my kids blowing their heads off with it. I could then tie up the burglar and beat the bejaysus out of him after he came to from the voltage blast.

mandrake04 · 13-08-2014 07:55AM

I've 2, but by law have to have them locked in a gun safe (which is in my garage) the ammo has to be kept locked separately. I also have a cable lock through the action and I keep the bolts and mags locked with the ammo.

On a good day it would probably take 10-15 mins but waking up from sleep and getting the right combination of keys I would be stuffed.

c_man · 13-08-2014 07:57AM

mandrake04 wrote: »

I've 2, but by law have to have them locked in a gun safe (which is in my garage) the ammo has to be kept locked separately. I also have a cable lock through the action and I keep the bolts and mags locked with the ammo.

On a good day it would probably take 10-15 mins but waking up from sleep and getting the right combination of keys I would be stuffed.

In the case of an alien invasion you're sorted though

sbsquarepants · 13-08-2014 08:42AM

Better not I think, certainly not a handgun anyway - I'd most likely be locked up for murder by now if I had easy access to one!

BeerWolf · 13-08-2014 09:15AM

No option for those that already own guns?

BeerWolf · 13-08-2014 09:20AM

akura wrote: »

I would like a gun, but the thought of other people having guns scares me

People kill people with knives - does the thought of other people owning knives scare you too? :pac:

Hoop66 · 13-08-2014 09:37AM

I have a handgun, but it's locked in a safe. At a friends farm in the UK.

So if this burglar wants his head blown of (they all do btw) he's going to have to be very patient.

aaakev · 16-08-2014 05:03PM

mandrake04 wrote: »

the ammo has to be kept locked separately.

Although this is good practice it's not in fact required by law as you said

lapua20grain · 16-08-2014 07:02PM

aaakev wrote: »

Although this is good practice it's not in fact required by law as you said

and you only require a safe if you have 3 or more firearms it is not obligatory for 2

lapua20grain · 16-08-2014 07:04PM

Hoop66 wrote: »

I have a handgun, but it's locked in a safe. At a friends farm in the UK.

So if this burglar wants his head blown of (they all do btw) he's going to have to be very patient.

handguns are banned in the uk must be an illegal firearm. They were outlawed after the Hungerford shootings

Witcher · 16-08-2014 07:41PM

lapua20grain wrote: »

and you only require a safe if you have 3 or more firearms it is not obligatory for 2

Incorrect.

The only firearm you can keep without a safe is a single shotgun.

Anything else needs a safe or even more if the super demands it.

Witcher · 16-08-2014 07:43PM

323 wrote: »

Like the way you think.

Although I have a number of long firearms, even if they were not securely stored in a safe and I was prepared to consider using them they would be less than ideal in an intruder situation.
Instead I do have a number of cans of pepper spray in the house, which my wife and eldest daughter have easy access to.
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You are aware that pepper spray is illegal to possess?

pablo128 · 16-08-2014 07:44PM

Blay wrote: »

You are aware that pepper spray is illegal to possess?

It's illegal to break into someones property too. Fair is fair.

Would you like to have a gun?

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